Comments on: Medical care is 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us Medicine for the 21st century Thu, 09 Feb 2012 02:43:42 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Medical care is 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. (Click Below For Story) | Javster.com http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-12042 Medical care is 3rd leading cause of death in U.S. (Click Below For Story) | Javster.com Thu, 15 Dec 2011 01:31:30 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-12042 [...] http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us [...] [...] http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us [...]

]]> By: Fact Checking: Part 2 | Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-5874 Fact Checking: Part 2 | Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation Mon, 28 Mar 2011 15:06:57 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-5874 [...] “third leading cause of death in america.” One of the first websites that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. It references an article called “Is US Health Really the Best in the World?” authored [...] [...] “third leading cause of death in america.” One of the first websites that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. It references an article called “Is US Health Really the Best in the World?” authored [...]

]]> By: Chris Kresser http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2912 Chris Kresser Thu, 21 Oct 2010 16:03:41 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2912 <p>Thanks, Ron.  I saw your article about the sickness cartel, and I enjoyed it.  Keep up the good work!</p> Thanks, Ron.  I saw your article about the sickness cartel, and I enjoyed it.  Keep up the good work!

]]> By: Ron Lavine http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2910 Ron Lavine Thu, 21 Oct 2010 15:13:43 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2910 Thanks for the great article.  I've been looking for a site like yours that has relevant information.  Over the years my skepticism about the medical model ("sickness cartel"), instead of fading with maturity, has grown. It seems like the situation only gets worse, not better. When my kids were born (20+ years ago) of course we were interested in "natural childbirth" and all that.  Now I have a niece who's committed to her study of midwifery because of the rampant and unnecessary medicalization of the birthing process.  Apparently it's worse than it was 20 years ago, with even more caesarians, more technology. and more dehumanization. And I fear that the state of medical care has gotten worse in many other areas too. Keep up the fight.   Ron Lavine, D.C. Thanks for the great article.  I’ve been looking for a site like yours that has relevant information.  Over the years my skepticism about the medical model (“sickness cartel”), instead of fading with maturity, has grown.
It seems like the situation only gets worse, not better.
When my kids were born (20+ years ago) of course we were interested in “natural childbirth” and all that.  Now I have a niece who’s committed to her study of midwifery because of the rampant and unnecessary medicalization of the birthing process.  Apparently it’s worse than it was 20 years ago, with even more caesarians, more technology. and more dehumanization.
And I fear that the state of medical care has gotten worse in many other areas too.
Keep up the fight.
 
Ron Lavine, D.C.

]]> By: Dangers of the Sickness Cartel - Part 2 | Your Body of Knowledge http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2909 Dangers of the Sickness Cartel - Part 2 | Your Body of Knowledge Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:15:37 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2909 [...] and deadly track record. Three excel­lent stud­ies are avail­able that show MDs to be the first, third and fourth lead­ing causes of death, respec­tively. Two of those are pub­lished in JAMA. The third was refused pub­li­ca­tion [...] [...] and deadly track record. Three excel­lent stud­ies are avail­able that show MDs to be the first, third and fourth lead­ing causes of death, respec­tively. Two of those are pub­lished in JAMA. The third was refused pub­li­ca­tion [...]

]]> By: Sickness cartel maintains its grip over American public | Your Body of Knowledge http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2908 Sickness cartel maintains its grip over American public | Your Body of Knowledge Thu, 21 Oct 2010 14:11:57 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2908 [...] fre­quently tell my patients that (allo­pathic) med­ical care is the third lead­ing cause of death in the United States.  Many of my patients are big­ger “health nuts” than I am, so it’s [...] [...] fre­quently tell my patients that (allo­pathic) med­ical care is the third lead­ing cause of death in the United States.  Many of my patients are big­ger “health nuts” than I am, so it’s [...]

]]> By: Fact Checking: Part 2 « Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2907 Fact Checking: Part 2 « Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation Thu, 21 Oct 2010 12:24:43 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2907 [...] “third leading cause of death in america.” One of the first websites that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. It references an article called “Is US Health Really the Best in the World?” authored [...] [...] “third leading cause of death in america.” One of the first websites that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. It references an article called “Is US Health Really the Best in the World?” authored [...]

]]> By: Fact Checking « Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-2488 Fact Checking « Mayo Clinic Center for Innovation Mon, 20 Sep 2010 14:57:09 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-2488 [...] leading cause of death in america.” The first seemingly reliable website that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. This entry was written by Maggie Breslin, posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:57 am, filed [...] [...] leading cause of death in america.” The first seemingly reliable website that returned was The Healthy Skeptic. This entry was written by Maggie Breslin, posted on September 20, 2010 at 9:57 am, filed [...]

]]> By: rj http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-520 rj Tue, 09 Feb 2010 22:47:12 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-520 What about the thousands of unreported errors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What about the thousands of unreported errors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

]]> By: What the Dickens is going on? « 740-bsmith http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-99 What the Dickens is going on? « 740-bsmith Wed, 10 Jun 2009 23:17:34 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-99 [...] hundred thousand die from properly prescribed medications, and that doesn’t even include the 220,000+ that die from iatrogenic causes. (what does that [...] [...] hundred thousand die from properly prescribed medications, and that doesn’t even include the 220,000+ that die from iatrogenic causes. (what does that [...]

]]> By: Chris http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-98 Chris Wed, 14 Jan 2009 03:59:56 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-98 Monik, Here's the <a href="http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10904513?dopt=Abstract" rel="nofollow">abstract</a>. Unfortunately, you may need an account with JAMA to read the entire paper. You can probably access it at a medical library at a local university as well. Chris Monik,

Here’s the abstract. Unfortunately, you may need an account with JAMA to read the entire paper. You can probably access it at a medical library at a local university as well.

Chris

]]> By: monik amelia http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-97 monik amelia Tue, 13 Jan 2009 22:32:05 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-97 hi, i'm trying to make a health power point presentation and been looking a reference that says that medical care is the 3rd leading cause. is it mentioned anywhere in journals, or news? do you mind to share the reference with me? thanks hi, i’m trying to make a health power point presentation and been looking a reference that says that medical care is the 3rd leading cause. is it mentioned anywhere in journals, or news? do you mind to share the reference with me?
thanks

]]> By: Chris http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-96 Chris Tue, 22 Jul 2008 17:32:47 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-96 James, Thanks for your comment and welcome to the blog. I'm not exactly sure what you're asking, but the "106,000 deaths a year from nonerror, adverse effects of medications" means that of the 225,000 people who die each year as a result of iatrogenic causes (causes related to medical care, that is), 106,000 of those deaths are due to side effects from medication that was "properly prescribed" (i.e. indicated for the particular illness or disease). This is different from the 7,000 deaths a year caused by medication errors (drugs improperly prescribed or contraindicated for the particular patient/condition). The fact that more than more than 100,000 people are dying each year from medications that are "properly prescribed" makes me think it's time to reconsider the criteria for their prescription. Have you had a chance to read the full text of the study? I really recommend you do that before passing judgment on the validity of the statistics. What you say is certainly true about statistical measures in general; there is always the potential for bias and personal agendas distorting the numbers. But that does not mean that well-designed studies cannot produce relatively accurate statistics that are meaningful and relevant. As mentioned in the article, the <em>World Health Organization</em> did a separate analysis that arrived at many similar conclusions. If you have specific criticisms of the data analysis or methodology of the study, I'd like to hear them. To me the numbers appear to be very sound, especially because similar results have been obtained by other studies by author authors and organizations. I don't see any reason to believe these statistics are skewed as you suggest. What is your reason? James,

Thanks for your comment and welcome to the blog.

I’m not exactly sure what you’re asking, but the “106,000 deaths a year from nonerror, adverse effects of medications” means that of the 225,000 people who die each year as a result of iatrogenic causes (causes related to medical care, that is), 106,000 of those deaths are due to side effects from medication that was “properly prescribed” (i.e. indicated for the particular illness or disease).

This is different from the 7,000 deaths a year caused by medication errors (drugs improperly prescribed or contraindicated for the particular patient/condition).

The fact that more than more than 100,000 people are dying each year from medications that are “properly prescribed” makes me think it’s time to reconsider the criteria for their prescription.

Have you had a chance to read the full text of the study? I really recommend you do that before passing judgment on the validity of the statistics.

What you say is certainly true about statistical measures in general; there is always the potential for bias and personal agendas distorting the numbers. But that does not mean that well-designed studies cannot produce relatively accurate statistics that are meaningful and relevant.

As mentioned in the article, the World Health Organization did a separate analysis that arrived at many similar conclusions. If you have specific criticisms of the data analysis or methodology of the study, I’d like to hear them. To me the numbers appear to be very sound, especially because similar results have been obtained by other studies by author authors and organizations.

I don’t see any reason to believe these statistics are skewed as you suggest. What is your reason?

]]> By: James http://chriskresser.com/medical-care-is-the-3rd-leading-cause-of-death-in-the-us#comment-95 James Tue, 22 Jul 2008 15:39:33 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=29#comment-95 "106,000 deaths a year from nonerror, adverse effects of medications" Almost half of your affected patients. Can you go into a little more detail about this one? Why do these numbers seem skewed to me? It's a fact that almost 90% of all statistics can be made to say anything at least 50% of the time. I think that's what were seeing here. “106,000 deaths a year from nonerror, adverse effects of medications”

Almost half of your affected patients. Can you go into a little more detail about this one?

Why do these numbers seem skewed to me?

It’s a fact that almost 90% of all statistics can be made to say anything at least 50% of the time. I think that’s what were seeing here.

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