Comments on: The dark side of antidepressants http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants Medicine for the 21st century Wed, 08 Feb 2012 18:48:53 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Anonymous http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-6525 Anonymous Fri, 15 Apr 2011 19:05:00 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-6525 Thank you. This is quite a helpful post. But lacks credability. It is very easy to generalize when talking about psychiatric drugs and their side effects. But the fact that so many millions of people find them useful and improve their quality of life mean that you need to qualify broad statements with more quality evidence and be specific and inclusive. For example, the experiments on mice were using doses of antidepressants 10 times that used on humans. In fact, it is now known that antidepressant drugs promote neurogenisis in the hippocampus and this has been suggested as the reason why antidepressants commonly take 4-6 weeks to work fully even though they raise synaptic serotinin levels within hours or days. Perhaps a more balanced view including all data and accurate statistics would be more useful for everybody since antidepressants are not going to go away in the near future and are very useful. Have you ever suffered from depression? It doesn`t sound like it. Show me the good quality evidence base that accupunture works for depression... There isn`t any.. Thank you. This is quite a helpful post. But lacks credability. It is very easy to generalize when talking about psychiatric drugs and their side effects. But the fact that so many millions of people find them useful and improve their quality of life mean that you need to qualify broad statements with more quality evidence and be specific and inclusive. For example, the experiments on mice were using doses of antidepressants 10 times that used on humans. In fact, it is now known that antidepressant drugs promote neurogenisis in the hippocampus and this has been suggested as the reason why antidepressants commonly take 4-6 weeks to work fully even though they raise synaptic serotinin levels within hours or days. Perhaps a more balanced view including all data and accurate statistics would be more useful for everybody since antidepressants are not going to go away in the near future and are very useful. Have you ever suffered from depression? It doesn`t sound like it. Show me the good quality evidence base that accupunture works for depression… There isn`t any..

]]> By: Dale http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-4416 Dale Tue, 25 Jan 2011 22:00:25 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-4416 And what about the GI bleeding? I had severe gutaches with Candida, thought it was cured with a year of nystatin, but my digestion has been worse and worse ever since and I am only able to eat few foods and digest few supplements. How do you know if you have GI bleeding? I didn't realize at the time (08) when I quit Effexor that the panic walking I had which resulted in Plantar Fasciitis was from withdrawal. My depression did not change except perhaps to get worse. I think I need a lot of a variety of hormones to try to get better. And what about the GI bleeding? I had severe gutaches with Candida, thought it was cured with a year of nystatin, but my digestion has been worse and worse ever since and I am only able to eat few foods and digest few supplements. How do you know if you have GI bleeding?
I didn’t realize at the time (08) when I quit Effexor that the panic walking I had which resulted in Plantar Fasciitis was from withdrawal. My depression did not change except perhaps to get worse. I think I need a lot of a variety of hormones to try to get better.

]]> By: Dale http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-4382 Dale Sat, 22 Jan 2011 11:48:37 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-4382 After years of migraines (from The Pill), then quitting smoking, severe Candidiasis, hypoglycemia, severe depression, type 2 diabetes, at least a decade of antidepressants including Effexor, I awoke in 2000 with severe incapacitating chills. After several years (normal TSH) I was finally able to get enough thyroid desiccated hormone to bring my Free T3/T4 to the top of the range and start on bioidentical hormone replacement. I still have low temperature (average 95.5 am) and chills and severe depression. I quit Effexor about 3 years ago when it seemed more negative than positive. The low thyroid I thought was from many things BUT if it's from antidepressants is it permanent? Can anything be done to repair the damage? Thanks. After years of migraines (from The Pill), then quitting smoking, severe Candidiasis, hypoglycemia, severe depression, type 2 diabetes, at least a decade of antidepressants including Effexor, I awoke in 2000 with severe incapacitating chills. After several years (normal TSH) I was finally able to get enough thyroid desiccated hormone to bring my Free T3/T4 to the top of the range and start on bioidentical hormone replacement. I still have low temperature (average 95.5 am) and chills and severe depression. I quit Effexor about 3 years ago when it seemed more negative than positive. The low thyroid I thought was from many things BUT if it’s from antidepressants is it permanent? Can anything be done to repair the damage? Thanks.

]]> By: Chris http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-301 Chris Wed, 15 Jul 2009 21:47:54 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-301 Barbara, I'm sorry to hear you've had such a hard time. As you are well aware, it can be very difficult to withdraw from these medications and the withdrawal symptoms often mimic the original symptoms of depression. My suggestion is to find a medical professional to supervise you through this process if possible. Pick up a copy of Peter Breggin's book "<a href="http://www.amazon.com/Your-Drug-May-Problem-Psychiatric/dp/0738203483/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1247694375&sr=8-1" rel="nofollow">Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Taking Your Psychiatric Drug</a>", and see if you can find a doctor or psychiatrist that will follow those principles. Good luck, Barbara. Chris Barbara,

I’m sorry to hear you’ve had such a hard time. As you are well aware, it can be very difficult to withdraw from these medications and the withdrawal symptoms often mimic the original symptoms of depression. My suggestion is to find a medical professional to supervise you through this process if possible. Pick up a copy of Peter Breggin’s book “Your Drug May Be Your Problem: How and Why to Stop Taking Your Psychiatric Drug“, and see if you can find a doctor or psychiatrist that will follow those principles. Good luck, Barbara.

Chris

]]> By: barbara http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-300 barbara Wed, 15 Jul 2009 15:10:22 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-300 I'm having psicological and psysiological symptoms some of the ones you write of Effexor withdrawal, i'm now with 18 g I started taking last november with 2 capsules, but i had two other epiodes of depression with cold turkey in last 2 years. I don't like how antidepressants change my power and self confidence. I was doing acupuncture for the last two monyhs but i had to quit because i felt going crazy. A Ph. Dr. told me about a supplement with Griffonia simplicifolia extract, quelate magnesium, malic acid and apple extract. I wrote to the laboratories that prepare them and told me that i can take it when i stop completely the antidepressants. I don't feel completely fine, i'm afraid to quit Effexor because of another depresive episode, and as you say each time my depression goes chronical and feel less power in myself. It's good time to leave Effexor and switch for this supplement it seems can help me enhance my self power and confidence? and maybe continue with Acupuncture. I also made a SCIO and ORION test who made me feel a little better with my withdrawal. But i don't live no more, i'm afraid to get a job, i'm semiparalyzed i lost my feelings and goals,i don't now what to do. I also try positive thougts and meditation. But i want to be myself again! my baddest feelings are in the morning. Thank you for your comment, i am pretty deseperate I hope you can answer me soon I’m having psicological and psysiological symptoms some of the ones you write of Effexor withdrawal, i’m now with 18 g I started taking last november with 2 capsules, but i had two other epiodes of depression with cold turkey in last 2 years.
I don’t like how antidepressants change my power and self confidence.
I was doing acupuncture for the last two monyhs but i had to quit because i felt going crazy.
A Ph. Dr. told me about a supplement with Griffonia simplicifolia extract, quelate magnesium, malic acid and apple extract.
I wrote to the laboratories that prepare them and told me that i can take it when i stop completely the antidepressants.

I don’t feel completely fine, i’m afraid to quit Effexor because of another depresive episode, and as you say each time my depression goes chronical and feel less power in myself.

It’s good time to leave Effexor and switch for this supplement it seems can help me enhance my self power and confidence? and maybe continue with Acupuncture.
I also made a SCIO and ORION test who made me feel a little better with my withdrawal. But i don’t live no more, i’m afraid to get a job, i’m semiparalyzed i lost my feelings and goals,i don’t now what to do. I also try positive thougts and meditation. But i want to be myself again! my baddest feelings are in the morning.

Thank you for your comment, i am pretty deseperate
I hope you can answer me soon

]]> By: Chris http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-299 Chris Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:37:58 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-299 Thanks, Bob. I'll check it out - sounds like a great read. Chris Thanks, Bob. I’ll check it out – sounds like a great read.

Chris

]]> By: Bob Taylor http://chriskresser.com/the-dark-side-of-antidepressants#comment-298 Bob Taylor Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:20:29 +0000 http://chriskresser.com/?p=49#comment-298 Read the book, "The Dark Side of Mania" by Amy and William Dunn. It's deftly constructed at 67 pages. It's about a manic depressive and his dark moments iin mania and what his wife felt living with him. Great read. Read the book, “The Dark Side of Mania” by Amy and William Dunn. It’s deftly constructed at 67 pages. It’s about a manic depressive and his dark moments iin mania and what his wife felt living with him. Great read.

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