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Got Digestive Problems? Take It Easy on the Veggies.

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A couple weeks ago I wrote an article called FODMAPS: Could Common Foods Be Harming Your Digestive Health? I described how certain classes of foods, known as FODMAPs, are poorly digested in certain people and can lead to gas, bloating, pain and changes in stool frequency and consistency. Studies have shown that conditions like Irritable Bowel Syndrome (IBS) are associated with FODMAP intolerance, and that a low-FODMAP diet offers relief in a substantial percentage of people with IBS. I also have information on what would make up a diverticulitis diet menu if you’ve suffered from an attack.

Today I’ve got another tip for those of you with digestive issues, including IBS, constipation, diarrhea and acid reflux: eat fewer vegetables.

Yep, that’s right. Fewer vegetables.

How following mainstream advice to eat 6-8 servings of vegetables a day could hurt your gut

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Vegetables (as well as some fruits) are often high in insoluble fiber. While soluble fiber can be soothing for the gut, consuming large amounts of insoluble fiber when your gut is inflamed is a little bit like rubbing a wire brush against an open wound. Ouch.

Vegetables that are high in insoluble fiber include:

  • Greens (spinach, lettuce, kale, mesclun, collards, arugula, watercress, etc.)
  • Whole peas, snow peas, snap peas, pea pods
  • Green beans
  • Kernel corn
  • Bell peppers
  • Eggplant
  • Celery
  • Onions, shallots, leeks, scallions, garlic
  • Cabbage, bok choy, Brussels sprouts
  • Broccoli
  • Cauliflower
The vegetables that are high in soluble fiber, but lower in insoluble fiber (and thus tend to be safer for those with gut issues) include:
  • Carrots
  • Winter squash
  • Summer squash (especially peeled)
  • Starchy tubers (yams, sweet potatoes, potatoes)
  • Turnips
  • Rutabagas
  • Parsnips
  • Beets
  • Plantains
  • Taro
  • Yuca
Another helpful tip is to reduce the variety of vegetables you eat at any given meal. Instead of stir-fries with 6 different veggies, have a single steamed or roasted vegetable as a side dish. This works better for most people with gut issues.

But won’t I become deficient in nutrients if I don’t eat tons of veggies?

First of all, I’m not suggesting that you don’t eat these foods at all if you have digestive problems. I’m simply suggesting that you limit them. There are also steps you can take to make these foods more digestible and less likely to cause problems. They include:

  1. Never eat insoluble fiber foods on an empty stomach. Always eat them with other foods that contain soluble fiber.
  2. Remove the stems and peels (i.e. from broccoli, cauliflower, and winter greens) from veggies (and fruits) high in insoluble fiber.
  3. Dice, mash, chop, grate or blend high-insoluble fiber foods to make them easier to break down.
  4. Insoluble fiber foods are best eaten well-cooked: steamed thoroughly, boiled in soup, braised, etc; avoid consuming them in stir-fries and if you do eat them raw, prepare them as described in #3 above.

Second, although fruits & veggies are high in certain nutrients, animal products like meat, organ meat, fish, eggs and dairy are as high and sometimes higher in those nutrients. For example, the chart below compares the micronutrient profile of beef liver and beef with blueberries and kale, two plant-foods often referred to as being particularly nutrient-dense:

chart comparing nutrient content of liver, beef, kale & blueberries

It’s also worth pointing out that most traditional cultures only ate a few vegetables and fruits that were available seasonally. They couldn’t walk into Whole Foods and buy every vegetable on the planet at every time of year.

I have nothing against vegetables. In fact, I like them quite a bit and I do think they’re beneficial.

But the advice to eat 6-8 servings a day is not based on solid scientific evidence and may cause unnecessary distress in people with gut problems.

Fermented vegetables: a better alternative?

Fermented vegetables like sauerkraut, kim chi, sauerruben and cortido are excellent alternatives for people with gut issues. First, the fermentation process “pre-digests” the vegetables and makes them easier to absorb. Second, fermented veggies contain probiotic microorganisms that help heal the gut.

Although sauerkraut and kim chi contain cabbage, which is high in insoluble fiber (and a FODMAP to boot), I’ve found that many patients with gut problems can tolerate it quite well. FODMAPs are sugars and sugar alcohols, and fermentation breaks down sugars. This is probably why fermented FODMAPs are better tolerated than non-fermented FODMAPs.

If you’re new to fermented vegetables, you have two options:

  1. Make them yourself. Check out this page for a great primer. It’s really quite easy, and cheap.
  2. You can buy them at a health food store. Make sure that it says “raw” on the jar, and they’re in the refrigerated section. The sauerkraut you can buy in the condiments section has been pasteurized and won’t have the same beneficial effect.

Now I’d like to hear from you: have you tried reducing your intake of vegetables high in insoluble fiber? Did that help your digestion? Let us know in the comments.

P.S. Next week I’ll be presenting at the Ancestral Health Symposium in Boston, and thus may not be able to post an article to the blog. I look forward to meeting those of you that will be there.

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  1. Hi Chris – I love that you made the blasphemous assertion that vegetables can be deleterious to your health. I’ve been primal for over 6 years after suffering from IBS for the prior 20 years. I started regular 12-14 hour fasting a year-and-a-half ago, got down to my goal weight, eliminated most of the stomach-related problems and felt like I really had my health dialed in. But about 9 months ago I developed perioral dermatitis. It was pretty minor at first but started streading a few months ago. I went keto thinking it must have been due to too much sugar from honey and fruit. That helped at first but then the rash flared again. Then I went keto elimination for three weeks and dropped eggs/dairy/nuts. That helped at first but then the rash flared again. It seemed like everything I tried worked at first and then stopped. That made me think it must be behavioral, and I finally realized that every time I started something new, I was really careful about eating at first. Eventually, I would become comfortable with the new diet and start to lapse back into overconsuming food. In particular, I pinpointed big-ass salads (as per MDA) as the biggest culprit! Anyway, the solution for me ended up being cutting out the majority of the vegetables I normally eat and making sure to stay in ketosis to help prevent me from overeating in general. I now eat a total of about 3-4 grams of fiber per day and feel great. Perioral dermatitis (as well as all lingering gut-related pain/bloating) is finally gone.

  2. For the past 10 years I have been undergoing a still undiagnosed and debilitating chronic pain syndrome. I’m currently mostly bedridden and on Wednesday, we will have a nurse coming to the home to collect blood samples for Grave’s disease, Addison’s disease, metabolic myopathies and a number of auto immune diseases that we had not yet tested for. I hope, yet recognize the unlikelihood, that one of those blood samples will test positive and I might have the chance to live a life that is not predominately sequestered to the bed. The pain has become so intense that I am unable to leave our one room studio apartment and can barely stand for five minutes. I have recently realized that I am undergoing severe muscle atrophy, either as a complication of this undiagnosed pain, or a later stage of whatever this disease may be. I sadly admit that I drink alcohol every night along with Benadryl and prescription sleeping aids because of my desperation to pass out from a days worth of unrelenting and maddening pain. I take Kratom during the day to tolerate 1 to 2 hours of work because of how intensely important it still is to me and I also take it during the many moments at night when the pain wakes me up and I cannot sleep without it. Sadly, the government has been attempting (under the thinly veiled influence of Big Pharma) to turn this herb into a schedule 1 illegal drug. Should that happen, I will have to utilize alcohol as my prominent pain relief, which would most likely end in organ failure, cancer or throat abscess turning into pneumonia that doctors say will also most likely kill me. Ignoring the current manipulation major news networks are attempting regarding this herb, it is the safest pain treatment I can use. The only downside I have discovered from taking Kratom is intense constipation. In fact, when this herb was in animal trials, the scientists agree that the mice that died died from constipation (though, they were given about 100 times the dose). I only bring this up because (and trust me, I am NOT a fan of fruits and vegetables), I was having large amounts of them, coupled with a lot of water (which I also am not a big fan of), daily MiraLAX and stool softeners just to get to go to the bathroom at all. I was actually surprised at the writer’s admonishment of brussels sprouts because they have a high percentage of soluble fiber. I was eating large amounts of them along with plums, also high in soluble fiber, and I was able to go to the bathroom by doing this. I know that no one can live without protein, so I ate chicken, but small amounts of it because animal protein is binding. Unfortunately, I ate brussels sprouts and plums for years (remember, I’m not a big fan of fruits or vegetables) and I gained such a strong aversion to them that their smell alone made me nauseous. I switched plums to oranges because they are equal in soluble fiber percentage, but the best I could find for a vegetable swap was broccoli (yet another vegetable he admonishes even though it is 40% soluble fiber) and, other than brussels sprouts, that was the highest percentage I could find. I was still surviving, being able to go to the bathroom, until I realized the muscle atrophy (the constant pain is so intense that I usually don’t notice anything else). It took for my wedding ring to slip right off my finger even though it was quite snug when it was first placed on my finger for me to notice it. To give you a sense of just how bad the atrophy is, I am barely above 90 pounds. Because my pain syndrome makes even the slightest exercise intolerable, I’m trying to fight the atrophy with diet, which means increasing the protein. But, once I did that, I couldn’t go to the bathroom anymore. I had to lower the chicken and try to find a plant-based protein that would hopefully not constipate me. I added cabbage (which is 40% soluble fiber, so I don’t understand why that one is on the “no” list either) so that I could include flaxseed (30% soluble fiber) and kidney beans (50% soluble fiber) to increase my protein intake in hopes to fight both the muscle atrophy and the constipation. I recognize that, according to this article, I’m consuming too much fiber, but I am doing my best to try to find foods with the highest percentage of soluble fiber verses insoluble fiber. I recognize that it makes my stomach bloated and uncomfortable, but my stomach pain versus my muscle pain is comparative to getting a leg cramp versus getting the leg sawed off. So, essentially, all I really care about is making the stool soft enough so that I can pass it rather than end up in the emergency room every few weeks. This is me, 33 years old and just trying to do my best to survive. If anyone has any other ideas for constipation relief, I would be grateful (I’m already eating Chia seeds by the way). Ideally, if constipation wasn’t an issue, I would be able to exclusively use the herb for pain relief. Trust me, you don’t need to tell me how incredibly harmful the other stuff is.

    • You really need to be tested for D deficiency and other nutrient deficiencies on top of ruling out disease. How often do you go outdoors and get sun on skin? I would also point out that many veggies and fruits can be high in oxolates and phytates which bind to minerals like calcium in the gut. It’s not just about soluble or insoluble fiber and for that reason I would seriously consider sending a snip if your hair for testing or getting food intolerance tests done if all your current list of tests come back negative because something you are putting into your system or a mere deficiency could be cause of your issues. B12 deficiency coupled with folate, Vit c or D deficiency as well as EFA deficiency when not addressed could have someone in your situation and just eating foods without correcting those deficiencies will not resolve the issue. Only you can do this much. It is not in the average GPS interest to fix malnutrition based sickness. In fact it’s their bread and butter.

    • I seriously recommend reading “Fiber Menace.” You actually don’t need fiber as well. Many people have been able to cure what you’re describing by eating only from the animal kingdom. That’s right. No plants. Google “Zero Carb.”

  3. My body refuses to digest broccoli and I can’t figure out why. It goes right through me without being digested at all.

    • it’s because broccoli is a cruciferous vegetable. cruciferous vegetables are brutal on people with sensitive stomachs. i avoid them completely, unless fermented (sauerkraut is ok, though cabbage is a cruciferous vegetable). this is related to the FODMAPs issue that Kresser mentions. most (maybe all) cruciferous vegetables are very high in FODMAPs.

    • That’s because you aren’t equipped to break down cellulose, which is what makes up fiber in plants. You find corn kernels in complete form in your stool (if you eat corn) for the same reason.

  4. Can anyone list more vegetables that are high in soluble fiber but low in insoluble fiber?
    I’d just like to add a few more foods to my rotation

  5. So if I am constipated I should eat less insoluble fibre and more soluble fibre?

    I’m confused as other pages say the below:
    Soluble fibre attracts water and slows digestion.
    Insoluble fibre bulks out stool and helps it pass through the intestine and stomach.

    Which is corrrct? Which should I eat less of to ease constipation?

    Thank you for your help

    • You will want to consume insoluble fiber if you’re experiencing consipation. Definitely try eating less soluble fiber and bulking up your insoluble fiber intake. If your diet is high in beans/starchy vegetables I would suggest replacing them with maybe broccoli, cauliflower, bok choi, spinach. Hope that helps!

      • I really think it’s more trial and error. I have IBS and I experience really bad constipation at times. It usually happens because of dark green leafy vegetables. I have stopped eating them when my constipation was going on and my symptoms would subside after a couple of weeks. I would then re-introduce them and my symptoms would almost immediately come back. Eating potatoes and other starchier veggies would actually get things moving. And my bowel movements would no longer be uncomfortable. I also notice that a cup of coffee helps as well. I cut out my coffee for a bit and along with eating green leafy vegetables, I really got backed up. Having that one cup is crucial to keep things moving. Now this is just my specific situation and I’m aware that this will be different from the next person. You need to figure out what works best for you. I’m still figuring things out for myself.

    • Other pages also say you “need” 25g-35g of fiber daily, which isn’t true.

      Eat more fat if you’re constipated. Don’t scrub the insides of your intestines with Brillo pads.

  6. I eat almost 100% vegan and basically eat greens for most of my diet; I have fish here and there but no dairy, eggs, cheese, other meat. I’m thinking that because of the mass intake of greens it’s made my digestive system a bit loose (eeeek!!) and sometime difficult to pass…
    I drink 100% Split pea protein powder and am wondering if that’s helping or not?
    I ferment my own probiotic water kefir which helps a ton but that’s not always helpful in binding my poops (sorry to be so descriptive!)
    I do not enjoy the idea of consuming a lot of starch so please do not suggest adding rice/wheat/potatoes into my diet, but does anyone have any suggestions for what could help a loose digestive flow without consuming those said above?

    I’ve also tried beans but it seems to make things worse…is there any supplements or other vegan protein powders I should take?
    I am no joke addicted to eating broccoli/kale/bok choi/cabbage/spinach/lettuce (aka all insoluable fibers) and won’t remove those from my diet which is why I seek something to add rather than take away.

    Thank you!!

    • Super, so you admit you have a digestive problem, you know it is caused by excessive leafy greens, but you refuse to take your energy from animal products or starchy veggies/grains/rice or lower your intake of greens. SO what your basically saying is you have a problem, but not willing to make any change. Are you looking for a solution or someone to praise you for your “addiction” to vegetables?

      • Whoa there no need to be so critical and harsh. Of course I’m not looking for praise for eating so many veggies, I simply wanted to know if there was someone who has a similar lifestyle to mine that has found something that helps their digestive track. SQ mentioned psyllium husks which I had never heard of, aka that’s that kind of suggestion/s I’m looking for. I’ve tried many times introdudicng rice/starchy foods into my diet and they’ve never helped me which is why I don’t consume them… Since they aren’t helping me, I found it necessary to ask for suggestions that don’t contain them.

        If you have any helpful tips that would be lovely, but please refrain from responding with negativity and attitude.

        • I’m completely vegan, I have been for almost 2 years and a vegetarian for over half my life. I recently had the exact same digestive issue and couldn’t understand what was happening. I’d also eaten lots of greens, but started eating more per meal and raw. Vegetables are extremely good for you. They not only contain nutrients, but have phytosterols which lower cholesterol which is important for most people that eat dairy or meat. Those products may also increase the risk of colon cancer if they sit in the colon too long on a regular basis. Back when people couldn’t go to a store and get various vegetables at any time of the year they also didn’t live long enough to develop most cancers.
          Anyway, this change in digestion when my diet hasn’t changed too much was disturbing and after going to the doctor and being told that it was no cause for concern and cleared medically I still wasn’t okay with it and decided to try things. I went searching online and found vegan digestive enzymes with probiotics. I ended up not being able to take these routinely due to peppermint being an ingredient, which caused acid reflux because I don’t eat small portions or often enough. I did give them to my mother who has digestive problems and she started taking them with a probiotic and she said that her digestive system is close to normal functioning which is very rare for her. I started to take probiotics and they’ve helped me with the same issue that you’re having. My random schedule, long with hours, and constant travel may have worn me down and maybe my body couldn’t sustain the good flora.

          • Wow thank you for all that great information. What was the brand/name of probiotic you and your mother tried? So glad to know I’m not having this struggle alone! I even started eating 1- 1&1/2 cups of rice a day and that hasn’t helped at all. I’ll definitely try out the probiotic you are mentioning because I’m at no disadvantage if I don’t ha ha!

            • I recently heard Chef AJ on her Weight Loss Wednesday Episode 4 talk about the cure she found for digestive problems, Heather’s Tummy Fiber, Organic acacia fiber. Maybe this would help you.

        • Miso soup with seaweed and tofu is the easiest thing for me when I’m struggling. Oatcakes are a good source of calories, but, gentle on gut.

  7. So happy I came across this article ! I just recently got home from a 5 day stint in hospital from Small Bowel obstruction and I was told to lay low on high fiber foods !! Thank you for the break down

  8. The not-so funny part here, is it is the Soluble Fiber that is usually the worst, and causes the worst bloating etc since that is bacteria’s fav food, like in the case of SIBO. And OTOH, they don’t really eat much Insoluble Fiber, do your homework folks

    • You’re supposed to have bacteria in your gut. SIBO is aggravated by excess carbohydrate. It also denotes bacteria in the small intestine sometimes extending into the stomach. Bacteria (and fungi) in your large intestine are totally normal, and YES, you should feed them.

  9. Hello! I have the Personal Paleo Code book and have been trying to find the bonus chapter it mentions on digestive conditions on the website. So far no luck; I’m sorry, I’m not very techno-savvy. Any direction would be gratefully appreciated; thank you!

  10. I was complaining to a german lady (art tutor) that ever since I had started to eat more healthily (after a terrible diet my whole life, but a very healthy digestion), my digestion had gone to pot. She is very into healthy eating, and she said I was eating too many veg, and that my 60 year old system just couldn’t cope with, and clearly didn’t need that amount of fibre. She suggested that I ate fewer veg, and that I got the goodness without the fibre by juicing them and also by steaming. It seems some of us just don’t need that much fibre to have a good digestion. I only started following her advice about 3 weeks ago, but I am already seeing a difference and feel much less like I have IBS or similar. Chris, your piece has just underlined, explained and clarified what I should be doing, especially the difference between soluble and non soluble fibre. Thanks. Hazel

  11. When I decide to eat “healthy” I’ll eat anywhere between 6-8 veggies a sail, easily. Within two days I am constipated and can literally smell the vegetables rotting inside me. I keep finding new fruits and veggies that give me severe pain and bloating within minutes to hours of eating them. This was good advice, I appreciate it.

    • I have a Colostomy and have had to figure out WHAT is wrong. I think I’ve had some blockages and always severe constipation. So, found out, by research, and this page, to lay off the veggies (which I was eating a ton of). Now, so far, I’m getting better. Wow! I’m just amazed at how the FDA preaches veggies and yet they’re harmful, or at least of no real benefit. ha!

      • Be sure to get your supplements if you cut out vegies. I am just reintroducing vegies to my diet slowly after 20 years of a low-residue diet. I have an ostomy on the other side as a result of having all my colon removed and I found it necessary to cut out vegies to maintain employment. I am now on disability and don’t have to worry about how many times I have to empty my appliance so I am eating more vegies now and I love it. One benefit is that I don’t have to spend as much on supplements. It is amazing how more effective the natural sources for nutrients are for healing and good skin. Remember to be careful about your vitamin K. It is tricky to get the right amount from supplements so consult your doctor.

  12. I have a question and cannot find the answer on the internet.
    What enzyme is in pea protein that causes digestive issues,and what enzyme neutralizes it? I want to get digestive enzymes but want to make sure this enzyme is available in the capsule before i buy it. there are many foods such as the Macro Bar that uses pea protein in their ingredients (for vegans) and i just can’t eat them. Thanks 🙂

    • I can’t answer your pea protein question but I have been told by my gastro to take beano twice for every meal and its a digestive enzyme. I was told to do this for a month and if it helps then that means Im eating too much insoluble veggies. Ive only done it for 2 days so I still need a while till I can tell you if it works or not but it might be worth a shot. (I went to the gastro with issues of bloating, gas, and very soft stool.)

  13. That is crazy to tell people that it is not that important to eat so many vegetables. Meat does NOT have the phytonutrients we need to combat diseases like cancer, and meat is way too acidic without adequate vegetables to maintain balance. Vegetables and greens should be the main food on everyones plate. If you cant handle the fiber simply heal and seal the gut if you have digestive issues and add additional fiber a little at a time. I eat at least 15 servings a day with an additional 20 servings from green and red powders and look at least 10 years younger than my age. Too much meat, especially by itself is extremely hard to digest, especially red meat, and takes a considerable amount of effort for the body to digest it, aging you faster. There are plenty of studies on the phytonutrient benefits as well as vegetable fiber in preventing disease.

    • The Mongolian people have a meat only diet and they thrive.
      Besides,if certain foods or a group of foods cause digestive issues,it is a hinderance to eat them because they cause digestive issues on other foods that are present in the gut. Not to mention the obvious issues i.e. gas and diarrhea..
      There is also the Macro-diet. My friend does it and has achieved incredible health after a lifetime of allergies and digestive issues..

    • I used to eat heaps of vegetables being paleo, however they cause me huge digestional distress since getting diagnosed with gallstones, I am stuck to the toilet and in pain and also cause reflux, so am I to just ignore the pain and bowel issues and eat more? Meat has stabilised my weight loss and keeping my symptoms stable along with a very small amount now of limited cooked veg and other non dairy foods and some berries.

    • I have a “rock” in my stomach when I eat too many veggies… especially raw. He never said not to eat veggies but gave examples on what to eat that is good/bad for digestion. He also didn’t say to only eat meat! I just came back from a raw food diet yoga retreat with tons of veggies and I was so sick and bloated and constipated and felt at all times I had a rock in my belly.

      Each to their own! You are lucky you can digest well.

    • Good for you. You are able to digest lots of veggies. However, many of us cannot. Perhaps you should consider reading the article and readers comments better….

      • Not eating too many veggies (and thus fibre) does NOT imply eating more meat – think straight and read whats written. I have also found that if I centrifuge veggies – ie have the juice and its goodness without the fibre I can tolerate more of them. I do however leave the fibre in with the fruit. Each persons body is somewhat different and we each have to find out own way – I was just sharing my experience in case it was of help to some others.

    • I have zero problem eating all meat if I feel like doing so. It does NOT make you acidic. In fact, meat contains an amino acid called glutamine which buffers ammonia in your kidneys. And the greatest contributors to cancer are high blood sugar, high insulin, inflammation, and environmental pollutants. Your vegetables solve NONE of those problems by themselves. (You *could* eat nothing but leafy veg for the rest of your life and not have high blood sugar or insulin… but then you would die of malnutrition.)

      • @Dana There is an exception to the mean not making you acidic.

        If you are taking in too much fructose and alcohol it will impair your purine metabolism. If you take in purine rich foods while your purine metabolism is impaired (i.e. red meat) then your serum uric acid levels will go up (which can lead to gout, etc).

        So yes, red meat CAN make you acidic… But its not the cause, just a trigger. The cause is fructose and/or alcohol.

  14. Why do I feel sick when I eat raw veggies or fruit but if they are cooked I can eat them all ? I miss a cold orange or apple Iv’e checked out the web but it’s all mumbo jumbo

    • It’s not crazy. What good is it to try to obtain nutrients from food poorly absorbed? Vegetables increase intestinal motility and can cause diarrhea. They are good for you if you are constipated. Get phytonutrients from fruit. Fruit is not so problematic, except bananas. Phytonutrients are helpful, but they are not essential to a healthy diet. Vegetables are super foods, packed with vitamins and minerals and low in calories. But the nutrients in vegetables are poorly absorbed. We don’t have the enzymes to break down the cell walls.

    • when I eat kale I end up with some upset, acts as laxative. Small amounts are ok, I have since switched to spinach to mix in romaine lettuce salads. We try to eat at least 6-7 servings of produce (like 3 fruits and 3 veg or more veg. Bok choy and the cabbage family is another problem, except I can eat collards, which is only veg. in that class I really like anyway. I try to eat fruit in season. Not everyone can eat every type fr. or veg. in existence, with no side effects.

  15. I have three main food intolerances: all dairy and including soya and rice and almond milk (appears to be the fats?);
    all gluten in all grains; salicylates. That is pretty much all food except for meat. i only drink water.
    I cannot digest any food at all unless I am taking a lot of digestive supplements (that is pancreatin as well as zymactive) and i get terrible chest pains if i don’t take those supplements all day long.
    I eat lettuce with olive oil and sea salt during the day and a small piece of meat or eggs at night. i never eat vegetables with meat. i have tried a couple of carrots here and there with my meal but the results are very bad with indigestion and gas and bloat and cramps.
    However, recently i was unable to cook so just stuck to lettuce and eggs for a few days. When i went back to meat again i found i could not digest it either.
    I am starting to wonder if i am going to end up not being able to digest anything at all soon.

    • Hello eva,

      I’ve had the same symptoms you have for more than a year now and i’m starting to feel much better by following a certain regimen.

      What you need is to boost your stomach acid so it’s able to digest the food that you eat. Our body is smart and knows that if we have an ulcer in our digestive track, it should inhibit the production of stomach acid so that the acid doesn’t irritate the ulcer further. The problem with that is we find ourselves unable to digest the food that we eat and we develop intolerance to many things.

      So the trick is, after your body heals the ulcer, you need to turn the digestive fire back on. The following line will explain how to do that:

      First, you wanna make sure you go on a conscious restrictive diet to give time for your body to heal from the ulcer. This involves engaging in a plant-base diet or more precisely, an alkaline diet. This involves stopping the consumption of acid forming foods like animal product (egg, meat, milk, fish etc). You can go to a doctor to check regularly if your ulcer is healed (if you had any, that is). Once you are clear, now we more to step two.

      Secondly, you don’t want to be dehydrated. You want to drink 3 liters of water daily. This water will help protect the lining of your stomach so that the stomach acids can’t burn through and give you an ulcer.

      Step number three. Your liver produces bile, which due to our bad eating habits, can get sticky and clog your liver making it work sluggishly. A good bile flow is necessary for the emptying of food mixed with stomach acids into the small intestine. If you don’t produce enough bile, your stomach won’t empty it’s content into the small intestine because it wouldn’t be able to withstand the acid in it. So bile actually neutralizes the acid so the small intestine can accept the food. If the small intestine doesn’t receive the stomach content, the food is forced back out to the mouth, that’s why you get the chest pain which is actually caused by the acid moving back up through your esophagus (Acid Re-flux).

      Now the question is, “How do you increase your bile flow ?”. Simply by consuming 1 whole beet daily for 3 months every morning.

      Following this regimen will help your body produce enough stomach acid required to digest the food that you eat. It’s restore your digestive strength to when you were able to digest anything.

      SUMMARY:

      – Heal your ulcer if you have any by putting your body in a healing mode, by sticking to an alkalizing diet
      – Hydrate your body by drinking 3 liters of water daily
      – Boost your bile flow by eating 1 raw beet daily.

      Tip:

      . Try to limit your fruits and vegetables to your morning meals
      . Eat a small piece of ginger roots before every meal to stimulate stomach acid production
      . Mix 2 tablespoons of apple cider vinegar and one lemon in a cup of water and drink 20 mins after a meal
      . Don’t drink after soon after a meal, or directly before a meal. Keep a 30 minutes interval before and after meals

      If you have more questions, you can contact me through email [email protected] or send me a message on facebook (adiang ma’at jacques). And yeah, i’m a black dude just so you know 🙂

      I hope you get well soon. 🙂

    • I think celery juice, as talked about extensively in the Medical Medium book by Anthony William, would help you. I can eat so many things now that I couldn’t before starting a program based on his book.

      • Yes,
        I have had everything checked out. I have multiple problems collagenous colitis, hiatal hernia, stomach ulcer and diverticulitis.

  16. I’ve heard that veg can be bad for those with delicate stomach issues, IBS, etc, particularly greens and raw veg, but this article explains further exactly what hearsay I’ve heard. I’ve just been sick, vomiting pale acidy sick, stomach pain, bloating and indigestion after eating baby sprouts, and have felt ghastly and gone to bed.

    I have avoided them for years, just something about them gives me the colly wobbles, and now I know why. Peas are fine, potatoes, carrots, sweetcorn, avocado, spinach, broccoli and cabbage a bit windy, but nothing like this. They were well cooked as well, and fresh from Waitrose. Oddly enough I can eat lots of any fruit (apart from dried fruit) and I’m fine. Is it the sulphur in dried fruit and brassicas that’s to blame?

    I’ll certainly be avoiding them in future!

  17. A few things I might add. Good probiotics is always a GREAT start for correcting digestive issues…this is critical due to our heavy intake of antibiotics throughout our food system and medical system. This will help restore your gut. Also, many people are low in certain digestive issues. That being said, you may need to add a good digestive enzyme when you consume certain foods. Eating more RAW veggies can help as well. Finally, many people have food sensitivies…always good to isolate these types of foods from the diet. Using a Food Elimination Diet will help you locate YOUR culprit. If you find out you have a difficult time staying away from the food culprit, you can then seek out a NAET practitioner who will REMOVE the sensitivity. ALWAYS good to CORRECT the CAUSE of why you have digestive issues. 🙂

    • Please explain how NAET heals digestive issues. We do NAET for my son who apparantly has digestive issues with sugar, soy and combining grains and potatoes. I haven’t addressed anything digestive through NAET and don’t understand if it will work for that. Thank you so much in advance if you reply!

    • Raw vegetables are a no no for my IBS. I can tolerate a small amount of raw carrot. I have to avoid a lot of cooked veggies such as broccoli, cabbage, Brussels sprouts.

    • Says diet band wagon. They don’t call them special diets for no reason. Without the food pyramid you will develop deficiencies. Which could easy lead to ailments. I don’t think the portions are realistic, some to forever strive for, not. Any new diet that comes out is looking for something that already exists. It could benefit some people. I would say more than most will excel with the food pyramid, family safe to. We all are unique and some may require a specialized diet. But remember that’s what it is and it will have negative consequences. Rather curtail your specific food to their grouping and agreeability.

  18. How do you classified insoluble fiber abundant vegetables and soluble fiber abundant vegetables? For example, how do you know that cruciferous vegetables (broccoli, cabbage, bok choy, etc.) are high in insoluble fibers?
    I did some search on the information, but I couldn’t find any scientific background.

    • Food scientists performed experiments to see how soluble certain vegetables are, and how insoluble other vegetables are, I assume by immersing them in something akin to stomach acids and seeing which ones dissolved and which ones didn’t. Pretty much basic science.

      • That type of experiment in no way would work in and of itself given that most fiber from veggies or fruit are digested in the large bowel by bacteria not stomach acids. It’s more than likely a bacterial imbalance that leads to a lack of ability to digest soluble fiber for sure. Insoluble fiber is just that. No amount of acid is going to dissolve that. Or gut bacteria. Cooking the fiber well might make it more tolerable though and less abrasive on gut.

  19. I think Fodmaps is great and helps people pinpoint what may be problematic for them. But some Westerners are just not accustomed, nor have yet built up digestive good bacteria to break down plants that they need for optimal health, which can develop with gradually increasing intake of plant fibers.

    Sticking to high amounts of vegetables that work for them is likely best. And though there are great health benefits of raw vegetables, the best bang for nutrition buck is cooked greens, like lucinato kale.

    One cup serving at breakfast and one at dinner/supper would provide a ton of nutrition and cooking the kale with a bit of water for 5-6 minutes, would likely not lead to any digestion problems for those with IBS. You get the rainbow of nutrients AND easier digestion with cooked, rather than raw dark leafy greens.

    • To my digestive system, kale is an absolute nominated it’s just too rough. Even when I’ve cooked it down, it still hurts me. Spinach is much more tolerable.

    • That Rainbow of nutrients that disappears with cooking. There isn’t much point eating food that’s over cooked. Better to juice and remove the fiber if you want the nutrition. For that matter if there’s foods are THAT vital for health, and the average Westerner can’t digest them, ate they really that vital? Half of the plants out there put our anti nutrients like phytates or salicylate or oxylates that bind calcium and other minerals in the gut. It’s not just the average green fly they’re trying to deter or kill then is it?

  20. Having a history of hiatal hernia for over 20 years and having surgical intervention I’ve been selective about vegetable intake. Last night had lightly steamed broccoli and also ate some stems. Woke up with moderate cramps & some bloating. Proceeded to read some articles to find that broccoli was not a veggie of choice for my condition. I’ll be more careful and selective in the future with regard to vegetable intake!

  21. I have found vegetables along with fruit can heighten pain in many IBS suffers. But keeping a balanced diet is essential. The key is working out across all food groups which ones are your biggest triggers and then trying to avoid them

  22. Where do you base your distinction between insoluble and soluble fiber vegetables on? Charts online show conflicting information, most vegetable have similar amounts of soluble and insoluble fiber for example. Also why focus only on vegetables and not fruits, grains and nuts? What’s the scientific basis for the ‘you don’t need that much vegetables’ claim? To be honest, I think there’s a massive amount of research showing the opposite, recommendations are quite conservative.

      • Did the meat industry pay u to post this. Listen here, your digestion problems are from meats! We as a society need to get away from the meat dominated society it is so bad for us but people and blind and in denial of the truth.

        • What a load of rubbish
          kels, people have eaten meat to survive since time began and were not vegetarians until recently. It’s clear that everyone’s digestion is different so what works for you may be different to what works for me. I am over the moon to read this article as it may really help my situation. Nothing more frustrating than being the only one in our household who cannot stomach a vegetable risotto or a Dahl when they are so “healthy” and yummy.

        • Kels, your ignorance and total lack of empathy is very sad. You cooments are spoken like someone who has no idea what IBS is like to live with. It’s ok to be ignorant because you haven’t experienced something yourself but it’s another thing to make judgemental and accusational comments towards people who do live with IBS everyday and are just trying to share information that may be used to help them improve their quality of life. Please keep your mouth closed if you don’t have anything encouraging or helpful to say.

  23. If I juice my green leaf and other veggies will that also harm my gut and cause problems with my digestion?
    How about if I blend the veggies in a powerful blender to make a nice creamy veggie smoothie? I make my smoothies only from the leafy part. I always remove the thickened stem from within the leaves. Am I doing harm to my system?????

    • Hi Gabi,
      As mentioned by Chris, it is always good to maintain a limit on consumption of insoluble as well as soluble fiber.
      Greens (spinach, lettuce, kale, mesclun, collards, arugula, watercress) are high in insoluble fiber.
      So, even if you think of making a juice, have it with some soluble food and avoid to consume on empty stomach.
      I think this won’t harm your system.
      @Chris, Green Lemon Tea has proved a natural cure for all my digestive problems. What you say? How would you recommend it to others?

    • For all digestive problems drink some apple cider vinegar the one with the mother,that will help.I use to have digestive problems, but not anymore ,since I found out about heart burn& things like that.The reason why some people like myself got those issues is that we have low acid in our stomach & that is the reason why we get hearth burn,acid reflux & stomach problem.Do some research watch video & YouTube, just don’t take my word for it.

      • I drink chia seeds and flax seeds every morning and now I also drink it before I go to bed. But lately, I experience a feeling of sour stomach in the middle of the night. I am not sure if that is the cause of it. It might be, now that I have read some articles that too much fiber can cause stomach problems. Or am I low on acid in my stomach? I am writing this at 3:45am in the morning. I will try not to take chia seeds and flax seeds before bed or none at all the next day to see if I still have a feeling of sour stomach during day and at night. I will let you know. Thanks.

    • Even if you removed fiber from Juice you are still left with oxylates and salycilates in case of veggies or fruits that contain such and the dangers of over consumption in that case leads to a deficiency in some nutrients. Oxylates and phytates bind with calcium and other minerals in the gut. Some are sensitive to nightshade plants like potatoes.

      The key in this article was BALANCED diet. Rotate your foods. Eat everything in moderation with lots of variety. When you get into eating the same thing day in and day out or eating too much of one food group or removing a few whole food groups, you are messing with your health in untold ways. It could also be said that eating local seasonal produce is the wiser option. Many of us would not have eaten bananas in the past. I myself have had intolerance tests and the main culprits were wheat, lactose, banana, potato, tomato, and glycophosphates came up high in my tests. Lots of mineral and vitamin deficiencies cropped up. KEY: a lack of sunshine or vitamin D reduces bacteria levels in the gut of ALL bacteria that assist us with digestion! This is why we gain weight in winter and lose it in summer. Get out and get some sun exposure. Take vitamin D and Also take B vitamins until your D levels are such that bacteria levels in gut are optimal again. The bacteria manufacture B vitamins in the gut. No sun, low D, therefore results in B deficiencies.

      In choosing what veggies to eat, it is far better to eat locally grown veggies only when they’re in season than to eat them all year round as your body gets a welcome break if there IS anything causing an issue in those veggies. Your far more able to see patterns re intolerance seasonally.

      This is common sense stuff. Ditto fruit, meat or anything you consume. Also take a look at what is being sprayed onto your veggies. At the very least but the dirty dozen fruits and veggies from organic suppliers. There are so many people posting here with issues and I don’t even think most people think about lack of sunlight affecting digestion but it does. Get away from the screen and get outside.

  24. I too have tried many diets, including paleo, and have come to the conclusion, through many trials, that meat consumption is the biggest culprit behind my indigestion. Beef, pork, and game meats, no matter how organic, free range, or pastured, always, always, always give me problems. I just cannot digest meat. I find that chicken and fish are more easily tolerated, along with (gasp!) certain grains like oatmeal and basmati rice, which I eat in moderation. I continue to steer clear of nightshades, and even fermented veggies contribute to my never-ending heartburn. I love salads but usually have problems with them too. I have been looking into ayurvedic cuisine and have found the diet, mostly vegetarian and relatively high carb, very easy on my system. I like the idea behind low carb and agree with the science, but it just doesn’t work for me. And yes, I’ve tried HCL supplementation. HCL doesn’t work either. I guess I am a special case.

    • Sounds like you’ve had some serious, chronic indigestion. Might want to diagnose/resolve underlying conditions (such as Crohn’s/UC/Hirschsprung’s/allergies) before drawing any general lifestyle/dietary conclusions.

    • I don’t think you are any special. Lots of people have the same problems, but instead of realizing them they walk around with big bellies and loads of old food in their guts. And you know it is you if you go to the bathroom and it smells really bad… old meat and other animal products decomposing don’t smell good.

    • Have you taken the type test on Mercola.com? I think about 1/3 of people should be more vegetarian. I also think things change as we wax and wane in our health. I grew up eating beef and love it, but I’ve noticed sometimes it gives me trouble.

    • Where is your quarter? Because if you are not from the center for sure you are eating pork meat or sh..t meat. Those porks serve only a purpose against the freedom of the big men to eat the meat of animals, cousins of workers and small people. But a pork cant be eaten and this is the reason of their job integrated meat fibres in the meat industry or the max-food.

    • To Mark. You just hit the nail on the head – same issues here. I physically want to throw up after eating meat. Fish I can stand. Chicken is okay depending on how it’s cooked. Even lamb if it is very tender I can stomach. Red meat not a chance. It has however been difficult moving to a plant based diet when all some veggies seem to want to do is try to kill me via reflux. LOL

  25. I have tried so many different eating plans and can’t seem to land on one that works. I contracted giardia decades ago trekking in Nepal, and have had gut problems ever since. There is very little that I can eat when my tummy is upset. I have just eaten a bowl of FODMAP friendly veggies and my stomach is growling, rumbling, gassy and painful. And it didn’t include those in the list above. I’ve tried paleo eating but struggle eating so much meat and fat and had so much indigestion and chest pain, and as I get older I’m worried about cholesterol and heart health. I want to eat a plant-based diet, but that’s proving impossible. I’m gluten and dairy free due to the giardia and impaired gut health. I’m not sure what else is left!

    • Never been trekking in Nepal but i have similar issues, can’t consume dairy, gluten, wheat, most veggies and fruit. Did you properly eradicate the parasite? Perhaps do some research on this and get retested. I survive on chicken, fish, beef, corn(cornflakes, corn chips) rice, rice crispies, some seeds and nuts and occasionally eggs. I would suggest low fat meats for you, if you do eat veggies, eat less of them. Avoid at all costs added ingredients like mono and di-glycerides of fatty acids, anything derived from polyols, pectin is another one_apple fiber) they use different names but polyols are undigestible and for people like us=hassle…flatulance, bloating, excessive toilet trips. This site may be useful: http://www.ukfoodguide.net/enumeric.htm I’m assuming that you won’t be exposed to these much if you have a clean diet but it’s always best to be aware. My only other suggestion is try enzymes, probiotics and as i said, make sure the parasite isn’t still kicking about. I wish i could help more but i’m in the same situation, trying to be healthy without consuming fruit/veg. Fodmaps is the way to go but just take it easy, slow introduction, perhaps try to find alternative foods that contain the same vitamins, chew well, eat small amounts often. Good luck!

    • Nicola, try a glass of montmorillonite clay water a day (1/2 tsp. in 6-8 ounces of room temperature water) morning or night. Read the Clay Cure by Ran Knishinsky. The clay is very soothing to the whole digestive system and it will heal inflammation as well as safely kill parasites. It will not take long clay is amazing.

    • Try hemp seeds hemp hearts full of omegas 3 and 6 perfect 1:3 ratio and it’s the only plant that is close to a complete protein very close. I say because I had stomach problem and the doc had me on chemical fiber psyllium and it screwed my stomach up. But I switched to hemp seeds instead and I’m 100 percent better I hope it can help you.

    • In 2006, I believe I got food poisoning / giardia as well. I was on the pot with diarrhea the next day and I was literally on there heaving and pooping everything out almost ALL DAY (I’m not exaggerating). Ever since then, I’ve been dairy and gluten intolerant. The gluten intolerant may be celiac disease since my mom tested positive for it and I’m of Northern European / Viking descent (Norwegian) but live here in America, which I’ve heard has the worst cases of Celiac and gluten intolerance. But the dairy was definitely new (I’m 33 now, so that was when I was around 23 years old). Every time I drink straight cow’s milk (even tried RAW cow’s milk with the same result), I end up with these horrid sulfur burps that taste and smell like ROTTEN EGGS.

      So through self-diagnosis, I think I may have Celiac Disease and Dairy Sensitivities. I can understand the getting away from corn as well, which is virtually GMO across the board anymore. Grains are a no-go and same with oats. What about rice and beans? I have no clue what the hell to eat anymore. My mom tested positive for Celiac Disease, I most likely have it too. As a kid I had eczema and would also spit up the baby formula a lot.

      Lately, I’ve been having asthmatic symptoms where I can barely catch my breath walking up some stairs (mind you, I’m in very good shape, lift weights, try to eat right, etc..). It’s October 2016 right now, but up to July 2016, I was lifting weights 2 times a week and doing intense cardio 2 to 3 days a week. That all came to a screeching halt in August when I couldn’t catch my breath in between sets. I also have acid reflux and I get canker sores on the inside of my mouth at times too. I was also waking up with hypnopompic and hypnagogic hallucinations when acid reflux and anxiety were high (accompanied by chills). Insomnia was another one. I am getting jittery and feeling like I’m about to die at times. I also had flaky dry skin especially some redness and flaky skin (seborrheic dermatitis) where my mustache comes in. I’m trying to figure out what to eat to stop all this madness! Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

      • It looks like you would benefit from the specific carbohydrate diet (scd). Elaine Gotschall wrote the book “Breaking the vicious cycle” after her daughter, who exhibited many of the symptoms you described, including hallucinations, was healed with this diet. Pecanbread.com is very helpful as well in using this diet.

      • I had some although not all of those symptoms. I was eventually (through my insistence on specific tests I researched) diagnosed with environmental toxin poisoning. My system is not good at detoxifying so I had to get rid of every possible chemical in my life … beauty and personal products, cleaning products, medications, etc. I already ate very cleanly and little to no processed foods but was vegetarian. Now I am a flexitarian and am doing so well. I credit the elimination of chemicals in my life and house. Read up on ‘reducing body burden’. Diet is only part, albiet a large part, of the answer.

    • I wondered how you are doing because your post parallels my condition. ..I am allergic to dairy, eggs, soy, wheat, and corn. Plus I can’t eat meat or poultry I never could they both make me sick within minutes. I can’t eat vegetables or fruits at all…am totally fructose intolerant now (never was before)…so soluble or insoluble fiber doesn’t matter because they all have fructose. I can’t eat quinoa because it’s 64% insoluble fiber and fresh rice makes me very sick. All I eat now are rice krispies, chocolate, and plain peanut butter all organic with no additives. What do you eat? Please respond

  26. Is there any useful enzyme one can take, a la beano, that makes digesting raw veggies easier? I love lettuce,etc. and it is, in other ways, an important part of my diet. Thanks.

  27. I cannot eat raw fruits or raw vegetables. I am wondering if blending raw fruits and vegetables into a smoothie will work or is it that cooking them changes the chemistry so I can digest them? I am scared to try this for fear of getting sick, but if blending them will do the same thing as cooking them, I want to give it a try. Thanks for your help.

    • Cooking them destroys some of the fiber. Try low FODMAP diet and your vegies and fruits on an empty stomach (especially fruit). They are easier to digest if raw by the way so that means if you’re having issues it’s either the combination with other heavier foods that keeps them longer in your stomach, overeating, poor chewing, fodmap intollerance.

  28. I’ve heard cabbage juice helps a myriad of digestive problems. They say juice one cabbage a day and drink it 4x throughout the day and eat the diet you can handle and you should start feeling better and hopefully start to slowly introduce more foods after the gut heals. Has anyone else heard about this or tried it? I’ve watched a number of success stories on youtube about it. I’m going to try it cause I haven’t been able to eat raw fruit and veggies for 2 years without symptoms unless they are cooked. I’m pretty sure I have an ulcer in my mid abdomen cause tomatoe and citrus bother me but I’m paying off lots of medical bills or I would get another expensive test done that may or may not give me more answers. I really believe the body can heal itself if given the right nutrients so before going back to the Dr. I’m going to give the cabbage juice/ low fiber/non acidic diet a chance for the next couple months. I’ll keep you posted as soon as I have some improvements. Good luck to all of you!

  29. I have an issue when eating carrots and sweet potatoes. So far, pretty much anything orange. Bloating, Constipation, then lead to Diarrhea and Stomach Pains.

    My doctor has diagnosed me with a lack of fiber issue in the past. I chew fiber gummies in the even and try to add fiber to my diet with fruits & veggies. She has no clue as to why I would be having the bad reactions to carrots or sweet potatoes. Raw, fried, boiled, steamed, doesn’t matter the form.

    Any ideas?

    • I have Colitis and the Fodmap elemination diet helped me to find what I can and can’t eat. Everyone’s food alergies are different. Ask a dietitian to provide you with the list and how to perform the test.
      If the carrots are one of those items you’re alergic to the only solution is to stop eating them.
      Adding fiber to a diet of a person with inflammatory bowels is the worst thing to do. Juice (not blend) anything that gives you trouble and see if that helps.

    • genetic conditons like inability to methylate, other genetics that cause problems with sugars, carbs etc and for some reason doctors never look at a person’s genetics. Once you know where your UNDERLYING issue is, you MIGHT be able to treat it accordingly. Sometimes it’s a matter of adding certain supplements or foods to the diet, other times it’s environment, stress etc.

    • These are actually low fodmap so that isn’t an issue.
      Don’t eat them with meats or concentrated protein/fats as they’re starchy.

      You need a balance between insoluble and soluble fibers. Look more into this!

      Have you been on a low fodmap diet for too long? (should only be 4-6 weeks).

  30. I eat plenty of vegetables every day, especially bell papers, maybe not exactly 6-8 servings a day, but enough. I didn’t imagine these are responsible for some of the issues i have

    thank you for this post

    • Nightshades are tricky…if you eat a LOT of bell peppers it’s going to affect your digestion, especially if you combine with heavier foods that makes them stick around in your stomach for a while.

  31. I have Ulcerative Colitis. Oddly, I can eat anything if I’m not flaring unless it’s green. Even nuts and corn and onions which have high insoluble fiber go down fine. But all green vegetables and most green fruits put me in excruciating pain – whether I’m flaring or not. Everyone thinks I’m picky or crazy, but I truly believe I have some sort of intolerance to greens…I’ve read other accounts online from individuals who believe maybe they have some sort of intolerance to chlorophyll or something and they’re just completely disregarded.

    • Digestive issues are very closely related to stress. I’m asking this with all due respect but maybe you had a caregiver that went overboard with ‘eating your greens’ while you were very young?

  32. I wish all the doctors that have told me to increase the amount of fiber in my diet to heal constipation would read this. Over the years, I have stopped doing what they say and listened to my feeling. I’ve intuitively been avoiding or eating low amounts of insoluble fiber and the list of soluble fiber veggies contains my favorites! It’s fun to now rationally understand my inclination. Thanks!

  33. I observe whenever I took vegetables, the next day I will see what I eat came out floating the next day when I poo.
    This morning was worst, I found 2 tablets of telfast flu medicine that I took last night floating!
    Should I see a doc?

    • Look up Gastroparesis and Slow Bowel Transit, when you eat high fiber veggies, fruit with hulls, and dense meats, they don’t digest well and will ferment in your intestines and cause pain. GP is often mistaken for Idiopathic Colitis or IBS. Stay off the REGLAN and don’t let a Gastro con you into Domperidone, which is not available in the US. Both are Black Boxed short term drugs. Try Ginger Root for Nausea. There are natural Digestive Enzymes provided by vitamin/mineral producers that help a little along with large doses of Probiotics like 40 Billion per day divided in 2 doses. IF you must take an antibiotic, take the Probiotic 2 hrs later. Antibiotics don’t know good from bad bacteria. Colon Cleanse if you get to constipated. Good Luck if it is diarrhea I’ve not found any thing that works on that.

  34. I get constipated if I get boiled carrots, potatoes, and turnips.

    I also made butternut squash soup with carrots, potatoes, celery. onions once and it constipated me. I found that weird because it is a soup and has lots of liquid already.

    • make sure you eat some whole wheat bread along with these veggies … I have had surgery on both large and small bowel and also have constipation issues when eating these … I like Arnold’s 100% Whole Wheat bread … it has 3 grams of fiber in each slice … eat 2 slices with your meal … total of 6 grams and then eat 1/2 cup of apple sauce … another 2 grams of fiber … drink plenty of water with your meal and it should all move thru …

  35. I stumbled on this page because I started realizing the healthy foods I am eating COULD be OR are making me sick!!! The problem is I LIKE to eat healthy and all I eat is lots of fruits, veggies, nuts, chicken, shrimp and beef on occasion. I don’t eat bread or wheat or anything processed (boxed or processed meat) or junk food or candy or anything high in sodium or sugars. I had been diagnosed with diverticulosis 3 years ago when I had my first diverticulitis attack. After antibiotics and not understanding what was causing all this, I continued to eat my healthy diet which was made up of a high fiber diet. Fruits and nuts for breakfast and I was obsessed with eating a large salad EVERY day for lunch except weekends, loaded with baby romaine, or mixed greens, spinach, celery, walnuts, craisins, feta cheese, avocado, chicken, grape tomatoes and balsamic and olive oil for dressing. I was obsessed with them (still am). What I didn’t know was that my attack was actually a ruptured polyp that attached itself to my bladder and over almost a year’s time, unbeknownst to me and my doctors, caused a fistula, which is an abnormal connection between two organs caused by the rupture of the colon lining against the bladder (aka an abscess or infection between my colon and bladder). Once the doctors realized that bacterial toxins were leaking from my colon into my bladder, (a bladder in a healthy person is 100% sterile) they immediately scheduled emergency surgery. While I didn’t feel well, it was shocking to hear that had I not had the surgery right away, I might not be here to tell this story. I was only 49 years old. I am very grateful to be able to share this story with whoever is interested in reading it. It’s my true story. Anyway, the surgery consisted of cutting the connection from the bladder to the colon, and they took 6 inches of the colon that had the diverticulosis and performed a resection of the colon. I’m thankful I only had to have a colostomy bag for my bladder for 1 week so my bladder could heal completely. I have now completely healed from the surgery and continue to eat healthy (avoiding peanuts according to my doctor), but now recently have been experiencing extreme diarrhea at times from my increased high fiber diet that I love, I’ve been eating more spinach, onions, garlic and peppers recently in some of my meals. I have had NO cramping, but diarrhea (regular at 3 times a day (more in the morning), and excessive bloating. I’m also a beer drinker and enjoy a few every night. I am over 50 and take vitamins and supplements and work out and I am realizing that some of the excessive amounts of fruits and vegetables I am consuming could be actually poisoning me and causing me distress. I certainly do not want another surgery and I am tired of the fatigue and headaches along with the D (more than 3 times a day)!!! Eating good, plenty of rest and exercise should not make me feel like CRAP!!! Sooooo, I’m going to try eliminating some of these trouble “healthy” veggies from my diet and and see how I feel! Glad I came across this article and I am willing to try anything to feel good while still eating and staying healthy and thin!!!!

    • You might want to cut back on the carbs to reduce bloating. I read microbes feed off the carbs and create gas. Chris Kresser also mentioned a problem with your stomach not having enough acid (this is reverse the logic of doctors trying to cut back the amount of acid in your stomach). He mentioned as you age, you do not produce as much acid in your stomach.

    • Sally, I went through this exact same thing in 2007. (diverticulitis, fistula) I had been having diverticulitis flare ups constantly for 2 or 3 years before I developed the fistula. I was told by a British dr that I should try a low fibre diet, mostly soluble fiber, and not eat raw vegies at all, particularly lettuce which he said is extremely difficult to digest. So I still eat vegies, but cooked, I have a lot of nut butters but I can eat some nuts if I chew them to a paste. I peel apples for example as skin is too fibrous, I stew up some things like blueberries and that seems okay, don’t eat red meat as again, too hard to digest, chicken and fish okay. I had to learn about soluble and non-soluble fibre. Some beans are too fibrous, but I seem okay with refried beans, some other tinned beans. I have not had any problems since I started eating like this. (Also don’t eat gluten) I am constantly told by doctors to make sure I am eating a high fibre diet, it’s not worth arguing with them, I just ignore them! I have another friend with diverticulosis who had endless problems and she is also fine now, eating like this. Good luck, Lee

    • Try to restore your gut flora, especially if you took antibiotics. Find good quality probiotics, or from food sources, i.e. fermented veggies. Yoghurt is NOT a good source, for most part, contrary to all the false advertizing. I make my own kefir, but for that you need kefir “grains”. They are not grains as in wheat or so, they resemble large fish eggs. Kefir culture is very strong, and more forgiving than yoghurt. You can also try starter culture for start (pardon my pun), But you have to replace it after reusing 4x or so. Grains can be found for sale, they grow (they are alive) as you use them. So people who make lots of kefir are discarding them or selling them. Kefir resembles a drinking yoghurt (thick but liquid), but it is fizzy, it has gas in it. It’s more tart than yoghurt, and doesn’t need all the fuss when making it. I take the grains out of the fridge, and put them in milk, and leave on the table. It will ferment.
      If you want a probiotic supplement, try to find high quality brand – hard thing to do, everyone claims their “is the best”. Dr Mercola sells his own brand on-line, arguably the best on the market, it has 90 billion count and very good mix of different bacteria.
      It’s @ mercola.com.
      Any brand should have at least 5 different cultures in it and at least 5 or 10 billion count – there is no such thing as “too much” or “too many”. In fact it’s difficult to pack enough into a capsule.

      • BTW – anyone interested in kefir, go on Dom’s Kefir website – just google it. He is the top expert, and real crazy, as in funny.
        He has many recipes too – what to make from kefir, using it as sour dough. Like bakery – bread, pizza etc.
        I make cheese from it, not pressed cheese (takes too long and needs controlled storage environment), more like cream cheese. I bought my kefir “grains” on KiJiJi for 5 bucks.

    • PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE look into the FODMAPS and GAPS diet!!! I am a 22 year old girl dealing with all kinds of digestive issues myself! I started getting into health and nutrition about 4 years ago and though, like you, that i was the healthiest i could be cutting out anything processed, cutting out sugar was the big one! and wheat that i started to see effect cystic acne breakouts. I first started by seeing all kinds of standard medical doctors which prescribed me with rounds of antibiotics and over the counter medications for digestive issues which just made it worse. I then started seeing an acupuncturist (for the digestive issues and multiple chronic sinus infections—>which according to gaps are significantly relateddd!!) Anywho im all over the place here with my story but want to share my recent success with cutting out these vegetables with insoluble fiber along with foods on the FODMAP’s list to give my gut lining a chance to rebuild without because constantly stripped, and while also rebuilding and strengthening the gut lining with the gaps diet starting off with plenty of home made bone broths from grass fed meats. I can’t write everything here but if all you get from this is just to go out and research FODMAP and GAPS i know you will find tons of other people with the same problem looking for relief for years of digestive issues -> that unfortunately lead to almost all other health issues that can arise. Food really is our source for life.

      http://www.westonaprice.org/childrens-health/gut-and-psychology-syndrome-gaps/

      This is a wonder site that brings lots of health issues to the service and which pulls from multiple sources for a very wholesome and collective mindset on health. Please feel free to contact me at all if you want to talk more.

    • I guess maybe ur gut might have inflammation which is made to feel worse when u eat high fiber food (Like rubbing wire gauze on an open wound… Ouch !) I recently discovered the same about myself. I get at least 7 to 8 cups of mostly greens into my diet, and I always have a little bit of loose stool.

    • You are eating cruciferous vegetables that are killing you more than likely. I did that, too, and discovered that a poorly methylating body could not process those foods. Instead, they attacked the adrenal system and made me feel like crap, even crash all night/day. Spinach was my biggest killer – raw! I stopped all that and read up on herbs for healing and within days i was feeling better than ever. You have hidden underlying causes like genetics causing problems. Some people have genetics that don’t let them process sugars, carbs, fats etc.

  36. I have had diverticulosis for years and was always told by doctors to eat a high fibre diet. I was constantly flaring up with diverticulitis and had to go on drugs. About four years ago, in Emergency, I was told by a doctor from Britain that I should eat a low fibre diet, no raw vegies, no red meat, avoid non-soluble fibre, just as suggested on this site! When he suggested that those things were just too hard to digest, especially raw greens, it made sense. He also told me to avoid gluten. I have not had diverticulitis since changing my diet. I have some spinach, kale, but only in smoothies. I can eat cauliflower and broccoli, but they have to be well cooked.
    I have learned a lot about soluble fibre, can eat oatmeal for example, and I can tolerate refried beans and hummus, but all other beans are a problem. I can’t tolerate dairy either, so it’s a somewhat limiting diet, but so worth it!

    I would suggest to anyone with digestive issues to try it, and keep track of what upsets you. If you have diverticulosis, don’t listen to doctors who tell you to eat a high fibre diet! Good luck!

    • You DO need high fiber with diverticulOSIS … pockets in the colon … that’s what it is called when you are NOT having a flare up …

      but when you are in a flare … it is called DiverticuLITIS … definitely avoid the fiber for at least a month or so … eat low residue until the crisis has passed.

    • Yup! The logic behind the absolute necessity of consuming replete amounts of fiber, notwithstanding each person’s individual needs AND the science behind likening too much fiber to actually clogging up the pipes, not to mention other innate qualities of fiber that can have deleterious effects on the whole process, really angers me. It’s like this bland (no pun intended) advice is rendered with very little thought, neglecting all other germane (no pun intended again) factors at play.

      I am in the same boat as you, and am perfunctory with my diet routine, just like you are. Guess what: trial and error, IMO the most effective method while managing this crap (those silly puns), is what’s guiding me. I wish to avoid surgery, and have faith that I sincerely am the steward of my meal plan. I suppose you could say that I more or less ‘flush most of that high fiber nonsense down the toilet’

  37. An article telling me to eat less veggies is actually pretty amusing, I never did like them or eat them as a kid.

    I have Crohn’s disease and there are certain things I can’t eat, a blood test from 2 years ago revealed I have moderate intolerance to dairy and gluten which is already 75% of things in the world. I did not handle it well because the news really upset me a lot.

    They say your first love hurts the most, it’s true because I fell in love with chocolate and ice cream since I was a kid. I felt that not being able to have dairy was the equivalent of a missing body part or limb…

    I tried to take the results seriously and avoided the trigger foods for as long as I could, but the cravings took over and I gave in.

    But half a year later and now I have a completely different feeling and outlook on food, I decided I don’t like starchy stuff or carbs. I hate pizza. I hate pasta. I hate rice. I hate cookies. I hate cake and now I even hate chocolate cause of the stickiness, I don’t eat it anymore. I also had an unpleasant experience with some eggnog ice cream I got recently, frozen it was bland and boring. But when I melted it down to a liquid texture to drink, it was sooooo sweet it was practically inedible. That was a pretty traumatizing experience in regards to ice cream, I don’t know if I’ll ever eat it again…

    My diet usually consists of: fish, chicken wings, bacon, soy milk, smoothies, puffy cheese/corn snacks, Skittles and jello.

    I am pretty pissed off right now because I feel like I am running out of things to eat! I don’t know what I’m gonna do…
    Life is gonna be hard if I can’t go to malls or stores or restaurants!

    But then again… reading some of these comments made me sad, realizing there are people out there that have even less to choose from than I do.

    I guess the harsh reality is that we probably all need to start living in a bubble and drinking distilled water…

  38. Thank you! I was eating about 6-10 servings of vegetables each day, 3 of which were raw. After about a year and a half I developed pains in my upper abdomen. The doctor thought it was my gallbladder, but my GI didn’t think so. I read this article and it turns out the vegetables were likely causing it. I cut way back and am slowly adding a small amount back daily. The pain left almost immediately. It was almost like a constant gas pain that got better or worse sporadically, but was always there. Thank you so much for this article! It helped me so much.

    • I was doing the exact same thing. Having way too many vegetables and a raw salad everyday. It’s now made me unable to digest things like peas and brussel sprouts without having issues! I went way overboard and the fact that you’ve said the same thing has made me realise this is likely my issue and not a sever case of IBS.

  39. I can’t eat insluble fiber at all, it causes a reaction so bad that I cannot sleep at all (high cortisol?). I juice my vegetables, and after I make sauerkraut, put it in a french press and just drink the brine. I cant take probiotic pills because of the resitstant starch.. this is such a huge problem, will it ever go away? I mess up once and its back to square one…I only eat grass fed beef, juiced vegetables with nutritional yeast and himalayn salt and turmeric, and like 5 avocados a day. I do drink coffee, but not so much. I am really sick of living in food prison/ sleep deprivation hell…

    • Kim, I of course have stomach issues too but I can eat small romaine salads and small potions or cooked veg. I cannot EVER eat sauerkraut OR nutritional yeast. Bloat bloat bloat. I eat fish very often , tuna, salmon, shrimp, cod etc. I eat EVOO and avocados and small portions of nuts. NO carbs other than green veggies. My diet is 80% fat, 15 protein and 5 carbs/veggies. Do you eat fish? Red meat can be hard to digest. Grains and starch will mess me up faster than anything. Dairy too.

      • I am reading everything everyone is eating…brines, veggy presses, seafood, bits of salad and nuts…no carbs or dairy.

        All I can eat and be able to leave the house to work all day nornally, is rice krispies, rice chex, rice crackers, rice cakes…and dairy to go with the cereal, and cottage cheese or thin cheese slices to go with the crackers cakes. I could have beef or chicken if I could afford it, but I am unemployed. When I did work, I subbed by day, taught night school, and worked at a greenhouse seasonally. School is closed, I do sub, but it is hit or miss, so it’s not a real job and gets subtracted to what is left of my unemployment and that will be done in a few weeks. The greenhouse is closed for the season is very part-time when it’s open. What kept me alive was night school and now that it is gone…no money for anything. Today I have had one mug of mint tea and it’s going on 5PM.

        I can’t have caffeine, food preservatives, any fruit/veg/fiber, no soy, and no seafood.

        Thus, if it’s true that carbs and dairy are bad…and I never feel good, so they might be bad for me…I can have air, and water…joy!

        I wish there was a doctor that cared to find out, but I have never found one. It would be nice to know why I can’t eat anything and if there is anything that can be done about it as I constantly worry that my hair will fall out or I will get osteoporosis as I am not even eating the things I can do due to my money situation.

        • Cheese and dairy are expensive. Buy chicken or ground turkey instead. I could never eat rice and dairy or I would be in pain all day. They are the worst. Find some undairy, ungrains you can have. Most of us have very restrictive diets. You are not alone.

          • I am not trying to be dense here, but I really have no idea. If I can’t have any fruit/veg/type of fiber/no soy…what non grain is there to have? Rice is the only thing my body likes.

            As for non-dairy. I don’t notice any problems when I have dairy, and if I can’t have soy or nuts…what else is there. As there are soy milks and almond milks.

            i am truly stuck. I know what to stay away from so that I am not in serious agony, but I still have trouble making it from 9-5, as an example, without having to be in the bathroom a lot, daily. So, I was assuming I was “doing something wrong”. As my body doesn’t like anything.

            So, I have no idea what non-grain, non-dairy thing, except plain meat, there is out there. I assume I would still get sick if all I ate was meat. I can’t see affording it, as I can’t really afford the cottage cheese I am eating either.

            I was just wondering if anybody knew something that would fit this bill?

            • I should have said NO grains or dairy. I would go for almond milk before any other kind including soy. If your body liked rice and dairy you would not be in the bathroom all the time. That is a ‘sign’ your body doesn’t like nor digests it. I eat meals of proteins (about 3 oz) on a small salad with olive oil and a few shredded veggies. I eat small amounts of nuts and other veggies. Simple, nutritious and keeps the stomach happy. I also eat 1/2 an avocado for breakfast and split the rest over lunch and dinner. I also keep meal sizes small. As for what you can afford I have no advice. I eat extremely healthy quality foods and they don’t cost me a fortune by any means. Have you ever tried fasting to give your system a cleanse? Occasionally I eat BF and nothing until dinner. If I don’t eat it at can’t hurt me. Hope this helps.

              • I can’t eat anything you have mentioned…except meat. There is not one single veggy or fruit I can have in any quantity if I want to leave the house.

                I can’t have nuts or almond milk, nor soy.

                if I eat any of these things I can’t sleep or do anything except live in the bathroom.

                If I eat rice (nothing prepackaged due to other ingredients) and dairy, I don’t feel as bad, but I still have to go to the bathroom three or more times a day. And that is a problem with jobs that don’t allow you to go to the bathroom when you want, as some days I might need to go five time a day.

                Thus, I feel that I just need to stop eating…I can’t afford it anyway. I don’t drink alcohol or smoke, or have coffee, and I can go forever without those. But never eating again, will be hard. If for no other reason then I won’t be able to work once I am too weak.

                So, I won’t post anymore as all people tell me is to eat different fruit or veg or fiber…and I can’t even have jam on toast without having thick and sticky (so 20+ minutes each time I go), repeated trips to the bathroom the next day. Fine if I am staying home, really bad if I am working 16 hours a day, which I used to do when doing day and night school.

                • I can get a free colonoscopy, but I would have to pay out of pocket for the biopsy, even on Obummercare. I am currently unemployed with three worthless college degrees (they used to be worth something, but not anymore), and paying the premium is more than I can afford…but I do it anyway, and then never see a doctor ever…no matter what.

                  SO, yeah, it would be a good idea…someday.

        • I read your posts. Sounds a lot like what my son goes through. He was diagnosed with Chrons. He was uninsured and seriously half dead when I took him to the local University Medical Center ER. They just wanted to send him home to followup with his doctors (which I knew he wouldn’t do) so I just insisted they admit him. Finally after 10 hours in the ER they did admit him, once admitted the doctor saw him he ordered a colonoscopy. They biopsied and diagnosed Chrons. We didn’t have to pay anything for his stay of the tests as University Medical Centers have grants. My son filled out the paperwork and that was the end of it. Please check into this route. If you are eating at less as you are and having as many stools as you are having you are probably becoming very malnourished.

  40. I was born at 24 weeks, and I have never been able to eat things easily, but as I get older I lose more and more items.

    I recently lost my job and I will have to get two or three part-time jobs, if I can find them with my college degrees, as I have not been able to get back into my field.

    My problem is that no matter how careful I am, there are days where I have to live in the bathroom, and how am I going to do that if I am working all these jobs…new bosses are not going to understand,as old bosses really didn’t understand…and I probably won’t have days off.

    I am living on Rice Krispies, Rice Chex, rice crackers, plain cooked rice, old-fashioned cooked oatmeal. I do not have trouble with white gluten and have never tested positive for a gluten problem, and I can have dairy…so other than rice things and oatmeal, I have Italian bread and cheese.

    I can still have days where I am totally unable to go to work. Thus, if I have a day off, I have to take laxatives and caffeine (as it makes me go), so I can go and go and go, so I don’t have to do it again for several days.

    I also don’t have money for food, so I am trying very hard to eat less and less, in the hopes that I can go less and less.

    I also have steroid shots, when I can afford them for my skin…and my behind can become very raw after a day of wiping.

    I had a barium enema in 2011 and I was told I was fine. My “not insurance” insurance wouldn’t cover a colonoscopy…and after the horrors of the barium thing…no way, not ever again. I pooed from Sunday to Saturday with cleaning out and then trying to get the barium out and it took weeks of only having liquids to get my butt skin to heal…I never wanted to poo again.

    I am single and on unemployment insurance (for a few more weeks and then nothing, I assume), and I got $11/mo in food assistance…so I am on the edge of extinction and I can’t afford a doctor if I need one.

    So, other than giving up food for the duration, I don’t know how to make heads or tails out of anything…nothing works, helps.

    If I get a job, I will then lose it due to my bathroom issues.

    I was a high school math teacher (and it was hard to stay in my room from 7:40AM to 12:15PM often. I had to learn to hold myself and pray I didn’t go in my pants. They closed my school during the first week of school without warning…and there are no teaching jobs in September and I am overqualified for everything with three college degrees…so there is little hope at finding a job that will allow me to go to the bathroom when I need to do.

    This is a long post, sorry. But I am seriously stuck here.

    Any ideas, other than “go to a doctor” would be helpful. My former foray into doctors offered no help, they told me to not eat things that bother me…but that’s a huge chunk of most things…and sometimes EVERYTHING.

    The market place told me that I could go on Medicaid as soon as I was able to prove I wouldn’t make more than $15,000 for all of 2016…so that means surviving the year…paying Obummercare…until I can figure out what job(s) I will have. A far cry from the idea that if one wasn’t working one didn’t have to pay. I just called them and that is what they said. So, if I can keep my insurance…I certainly won’t be able to use it…ever.

    Thus, trying to get further medical help is all but futile at this point. As I said earlier, saving money by ceasing to eat looks like my best option, but we all know it’s not possible completely.

    • I have been where you are as far as the insurance thing goes and not having much money for food…. I would highly recommend you go check out the website healthygutgirl.com. I have come a long way with healing muself with everything I have learned from healthy gut girl. Make bone broth (super cheap) and sip all day, fermented veggies and coconut water kefir. Take HCL and digestive enzymes. Stay away from dairy. Wish you well.

    • Jennifer you seem to be going through a lot. I don’t think food is the only issue and trigger here. It’s anxiety and fear that’s giving you a tough time. It’s a ruthless cycle. I struggle with the same. You sound like you’re on the verge of losing hope and that will mess your stomach even more. No matter what you eat you will be in agony. Do you have close friends? Or a support system? You need to start talking to people and getting things off your chest more often. You probably can’t afford counselling right now so I won’t mention it but I hope in the future it’s something you can do. There’s a group on facebook called life revived and another one called health anxiety where you could possibly go and vent and have people listen to you. Or call befrienders or samaritans. They’re free and offer an email option if calling isn’t possible. I believe that if you start to resolve the emotional issues it will help a lot and then you can truly focus on the diet and what to eat. I’ll be thinking of you. Take care.

    • Hello Jennifer, I was born premature and I experienced a
      realization that I have probably suffered from hyper-sensitivity
      issues all my life. I think it may have been overlooked for many
      individuals, but especially those of us who were “preemies”.

      • Thank you for understanding, not many people do. It wouldn’t be so bad if I could work one job, so I knew when I would have time off and could then “live dangerously” by eating things I would ordinarily not eat, say a baked potato…I am not talking seriously dangerous such as salsa…no.

        However, I am looking at needing to find two or three parttime jobs where I won’t have time to sleep, let alone do chores or anything else required in life. Thus, I have to eat very, very little. Say one bowl of old-fashioned cooked oatmeal each evening. Then pray my innards don’t kick in when I am not allowed to use the bathroom.

        That means having no life…just existing to pay bills. Lots of people do it, but not forever. I have spent the last eight years working three jobs, that just happened to work around each other. Now that the good job is gone, the other hit or miss/seasonal jobs are not enough and I can’t find anything to work around them that will allow me to live reasonably.

        It’s 4:16PM and I have had one mug of herbal tea today. It’s also my birthday. But there is nothing interesting to eat or fun to do. I just spent several hours applying for a job and now I will do laundry.

        The point is that I should have been given a disclaimer from the doctors that saved me. Something along the lines that I would never be normal and I should at the very least be allowed to use the bathroom whenever I need to do and not jeopardize my job. As a math teacher, that is not possible. One can’t just leave the classroom, and there is nobody to sit-in for you.

        I subbed by day, taught night school (so 16 hour days), and worked at a greenhouse seasonally (often alone). However, I knew the days off, had a few understanding teachers that would watch both rooms…hard to do, but we did it…when I had an extreme emergency. Otherwise I would simply hold it and hit the bathroom before school, during planning, lunch, after school, during evening dinner break, and be very sore by the end of the day. I also usually used laxatives to clean myself out on Sunday, so that I wouldn’t have a problem for at least Mon or Tue. The greenhouse was just difficult as working alone for nine hours means you just can’t go. But that is only seasonal. This time of year I always had weekends off.

        Now I am looking at subbing by day, and working evenings and weekends at a grocery store…if they hire me. That is seven days a week, and barely able to net $1,000/mo. I have no money for food, so it should be less of a problem. However, since I can’t stop eating, it’s still a huge problem.

        So, it would have been nice if the doctors that made sure I lived, also cared about the quality of life. Or that my current doctor could write the same thing. All anyone does is tell me to not eat things that bother me…but that’s just about everything.

        Thus I suffer and it’s hard to get a job, as I have to try to find something that allows people to move around and use bathrooms when necessary. A cashier would be bad as you have to stay at your register, as an example.

        Anyway, whatever. I am just babbling, so I will go.

        • I found your post by accident. The most obvious thing here to me is the dairy. If you do nothing else, get rid of dairy and see if that takes care of the issue. Live on brown rice if you have to for awhile. It is the only thing that 100% causes me zero issues whatsoever.

        • Jennifer, I have a lot of trouble with my body, with the digestion, absorption (probably malabsorption, leaky gut, Candida fermented foods! are you kidding?), parasites etc, etc.etc. My diet consists mostly of unstarchy veggies (because of very low income (trying to live on $910 a month, (disability and social security) and some range free chicken. I am going to be revising that to cut out all the apples(cooked iinto sort of a cooked apples and the xyla I’ve been using fwor my coffee and considerably down on the carrots to include things like daikon, burdock, parsnip, artichoke hearts, turnip, maybe green beans occasionally. When you can eat no grains or dairy, nuts or seeds and don’t have the money for fresh fish but I will try getting canned salmon and maybe some cod. The bottom line is learning to trust my body and my inner guidance and that means Divine, too, for instance, dialoguing question and answer guidance.
          Part of my healing from extreme, complex abuse from birth until 28 years of age is writing out stream of consciousness from my inner world and drawing the pictures from different parts of my broken self. Doing that has lessened over the years but want to pay attention to that more as it helps me see more clearly what is going on in the un-subconscious which is even more important to me than the other, what is called the conscious part of the self.
          anyway my gut, digestive, alimentary canal, bladder, esophagus, internal organs underwent lots of trauma growing up, being force fed, starved, etc etc etc. All that I went through, which was tons of stuff, all held within the cells of my membranes and organs….anybody with any sort of abuse, childhood or otherwise, most likely will have physical maladaption in some way or another–mine has been with an eating disorder, compulsive overeating is what it’s been called but I have never had fat as an issue for myself, just all these food sensitivities, digestive issue, sugar addiction and craving, chemical sensitivities, Complex Ptsd, DID, depression, isolation, hopelessness, anxiety, fear of people etc etc etc…..Talk on just the physical level does not do it for me. The emotional and feelings seem to be walked around, never mentioned or shunned. Everything is linked for me, physical, emotional, spiritual. That’s why I have such a hard time with allopathic medicine, dealing with just symptoms in the body. Anyway, I’ve gone on and on. I wonder if you’ve ever thought of attempting to apply for disability? It would mean finding the right people to give you supportive commentary and letters, etc. as part of application process…..Having all those jobs in your condition seems like too much to expect for you(and impossible?) right now. Or is there another way to take this burden off your shoulders while you find out how to heal. very good luck to you, sienna

          • Thank you Sienna for your reply.

            I no longer sub by day and teach at night, with the greenhouse seasonally. I had 15 months without anything but subbing and the greenhouse, and I was living on savings. I ate mostly Cream of Rice hot cereal…it was tolerated well, but sooooo boring. I now work fulltime as a math teacher, and work the greenhouse seasonally. So, I leave the house at 6A and get back at 6P Mon-Fri. Then I am planning all weekend. I have to be careful what I eat, so I am not living in the bathroom during the week…I could get fired, and I need this job.

            So, there are no fruits or veggies AT ALL, as they are unpredictable. I can’t have any soy or caffeine either, so I am severely limited due to money, what else is there to eat…dairy and carbs. I am so far behind on my bills, and I don’t get paid very much and there are no raises at this job, apparently. Thus I may never be able to afford meat.

            Life is stressful (which makes bowel problems worse) and food-wise very boring. I will live dangerously and make a pot of soup over Thanksgiving and Christmas breaks…cheap, easy, and yummy, even if there is no meat…it will still taste incredible.

            I would love to find a nutritionist or doctor that would work with me on what I can eat, but so far I haven’t found one.

            Jennifer

    • Hi, I was just reading this because I have digestive issues and thought that maybe I could give you something to help. I realize the post is old and I hope that you were able to find some help and I’m not sure if you want to hear from me but I recently read about cabbage juice and how it heals the gut and lots of digestive problems. You can juice one cabbage and drink it 4 times a day and then you eat whatever diet you can at the time and after a few weeks or months (however soon you want to try) start adding in more foods and seeing if your body can handle them again. If you look up cabbage juice healing the gut or I searched “cabbage juice heals ulcer,colitis” etc or something along those lines it will come up.

      I haven’t personally tried it yet and we don’t have the same problems but it’s supposed to help a lot of problems and I’m a firm believer that the body can heal itself if given the right things. Best of luck to you!

      • I have never had good results with cabbage. I found a really nice soy free stock, so I could try to make my own soup, as all canned varieties contain soy. Usually, fruit/veg/any fiber at all/soy kill me in any form. However, it was spring break and I was not working, so I thought I would brave trying it to see if it was better than canned soup. It was horrible and I was unhappy when I noticed there was cabbage in the stock, as that could very well be it…not that all the veggies didn’t play a part, but I was a lot worse off than I thought I would be.

        I have lost my classroom due to closing a building and I am currently, working seven days a week subbing and at a greenhouse, and not making $1,000 and I am single…so I am seriously looking at eating Cream of Rice hot cereal as the ONLY thing I eat…as that seems to be the only thing on the planet I can have that doesn’t cause problems…and it’s cheap and filling. I haven’t found any help at all…and I don’t have a steady health care provider. I have been to my new Obummercare doctor office three times in three years for the free yearly checkup, and saw three different people…and all they do is look at me like I am from outer space when I tell them my digestive issues. Then they tell me to only eat things that don’t bother me…but each year I lose more and more foods…and now that I have to work every single day…I can’t live in the bathroom, and I have done a lot of holding it for hours…as I can’t leave the classroom, and I am often working at the greenhouse alone. There is no such thing as a quick #2…so I just have to wait until I go home, or there is a break at school, and here is only one…25 minutes at lunch…so if it’s 7AM…happy holding. Or it’s noon and the greenhouse closes at 6PM. Thus, I have to make my innards as happy as possible…and that means Cream of Rice hot cereal…horribly boring meal after meal, day after day. So, if I ever have both time and money at the same time, I might look into it…but it will have to wait until I am 85 or 90, as I don’t see having a regular schedule anytime in the near future…sigh.

  41. As we get older and still want to eat a lot of greens, raw cabbage, lettuce, etc, we also have to still exercise, walk, rebound, stay active, because when you don’t these foods we are discussing will get your gut. I was trying to eat like I did decades ago. WRONG. Gas, seizing, cramping, pain, bathroom problems, and I could not figure it out. Maybe a smaller salad would do, maybe something with it could help, like it says here on this site, what a thought! But I like health, keep a good weight, eat right, but now, things have changed. I am not thirty or forty now, or fifty. So I find less is more now. I have fixed the problem, and then I went on this site, and found yes, less of certain vegetables, and some of another kind are good, and do not cause me the problems.. I take a probiotic after meals, that helps. Fermented food does not agree with my gut except Keefer so far. Like this site. Will read more now.

    Judith [email protected]

  42. I have SIBO and have been following Dr Siebecker’s SIBO specific diet. Over the months, and while also taking Xifaxan, Motil Pro, and enzymes, I have seen gradual improvement, but still suffer debilitating symptoms. Sent by one GI MD to another more prominent GI MD, I asked for complete testing of stomach acid/pancreatic enzymes, etc., as has been suggested to find the root cause(s) of SIBO which I cannot seem to eradicate. The prominent GI MD’s answer was: “Eat 1/4 box of Fiber One every single day for one month, even if you feel you are going to burst.” Another ignorant arrogant medical deity who would consign me to the mass of suffering humanity going from one MD to another because they are so very lacking in knowledge and so very sure they know it all.

    • I find this very interesting as I have been a vegetarian for several years.. With that has come some problems.. Bloating, chronic constipation and Ill health.. Having stumbled on a book called Fibre Menace and reading your article I have been enlightened.
      Could you perhaps give me some suggestions on your daily diet .. I a a little confused with regards to soluble and insoluble fibers… A new door has been opened to me and I am determined to get well
      Many thanks Nicky

  43. I’m of Slavic descent (mostly Russian)…I’ve had problems digesting vegetables and some fruits since my early teen years, and I find it interesting that the root vegetables I grew up on are easier on my stomach…maybe I should start eating more Russian food…lots of roots and fish and fermented foods.

    • Good comment, Meg! Good comment, Meg. I am also of Slavic origins (Ukraine) on my mother’s side, and my father was birn and my father was born to a German family living in Russia (so, not sure what that would make that side of the family… LOL!)

      I seem to have a great deal of trouble with the insoluble veggies. I think I am going to return to the potatoes and sauerkraut that I was raised with.

    • I’m mainly of Northern European Descent (Norwegian), living in America. I’ve read that we have the worst cases of celiac disease, thus I think I may have Celiac Disease and Dairy Sensitivities. I can understand the getting away from corn as well, which is virtually GMO across the board anymore. Grains are a no-go and same with oats. What about rice and beans? I have no clue what the hell to eat anymore. My mom tested positive for Celiac Disease, I most likely have it too. And whenever I drink straight cow’s milk (even RAW cow’s milk) I end up with sulfur burps (which taste and smell like rotten eggs). It never fails. If I drink even a little bit of cow’s milk, I have these horrid rotten egg tasting and smelling burps and sometimes diarrhea too. As a kid I had eczema and would also spit up the baby formula a lot.

      Lately, I’ve been having asthmatic symptoms where I can barely catch my breath walking up some stairs (mind you, I’m in very good shape, lift weights, try to eat right, etc..). It’s October 2016 right now, but up to July 2016, I was lifting weights 2 times a week and doing intense cardio 2 to 3 days a week. That all came to a screeching halt in August when I couldn’t catch my breath in between sets. I also have acid reflux and I get canker sores on the inside of my mouth at times too. I was also waking up with hypnopompic and hypnagogic hallucinations when acid reflux and anxiety were high (accompanied by chills). Insomnia was another one. I am getting jittery and feeling like I’m about to die at times. I also had flaky dry skin especially some redness and flaky skin (seborrheic dermatitis) where my mustache comes in. I’m trying to figure out what to eat to stop all this madness! Any tips would be greatly appreciated!

  44. I have IBS. I also recently had a colonoscopy. Since this scope and latest iBS attack, I cannot eat ANY green veggies. It’s been 2 months since the attack and a month since the procedure. I can eat starchy veggies, and cooked veggies, but even if I boil and puree one zucchini or some bok choy, I get instant cramps. I am way skinny, so cannot afford diarrhea. It seems that my probiotic, Culturelle, is also giving me diarrhea, so had to stop it. Suggestions?

  45. I have IBS and Gerd I have been drinking smoothies for some time now because I can not eat most fruit and vegetables. Recently I added Butterhead lettuce to my smoothie and it constipated me then I could not stop going to the bathroom.

    Can lettuce bother you like that even though it is in a smoothie?

  46. A really useful article! I’m from China and I was taught to eat as much as vegetables every meal. However, the indigestion problem got worse. And now I see your post, I think I should try to eat less, quantity and kind, vegetable and more meat. Thanks for sharing!

  47. Can you take presript assist probiotics if you have SIBO??? I have SIBO and have been on fodmap elimination diet and now I am on the challenge part of it….thanks, marie

  48. Fantastic write up and couldn’t be more on point. I learned this lesson the hard way…I used to consume huge servings of high fiber vegetables and man did they do a job on my gut. Now, I limit the variety (low fodmap) and the serving size and life is much better. Love your article Chris!

  49. Good day.
    The DR. told me I have IBS. But it gets worst with animal intake (fullness and nausea) and with cherries (severe bloating).
    Any suggestions??

    • Do not eat fiber unless is steamed and easy to digest like carrots, zucchini or pumpkin.
      Eat proteins and healthy fats along with betaine hcl or digestive enzymes, it help a lot.

  50. i had H PYLORI 2 years ago, treatment successful.
    Now I can’t eat, a little food takes ages to digest, i feel blocked until I burp and burping has become difficult. I constantly feel a lump in my throat, maybe mucus. Chris please help..
    silvie

    • Silvie,
      This is me exactly!!!! Treated for H. Pylori 15 months ago, and have the same issues as you!!
      I also have celiac disease. I am trying to eliminate corn and dairy. Also processed food and sugar. I’m already vegetarian and Gluten free.

      • Hi Monica,

        thank you for sharing with me.There are days when I only have one small meal or just some bread. I do like some meat, small potions, no more pasta or processed food.

        silvie

  51. I have a general question for whomever might have even a suggestion. I’ve been suffering from SIBO for three years now and chronic c my whole life. Blood work and overall energy has shown low-T and was put on armor thyroid. At first it helped with not only energy but constipation (I am a chronic c SIBO case). For whatever reason I feel my GI has stopped responding to it although my energy isn’t bad. I feel that I’ve tried everything in the book to manage my BMs. I’ve been on an SCD protocol for about two years (Sometimes allowing for a more relaxed paleo) but no grains, dairy, or processed anything since January ’14. I try and get tons of sleep, drink lots of water, exercise regularly, epsome salt soaks, hot lemon water, decaf coffee, lots of vitamin c and magnesium. I’m also on supplements for liver and pancreatic support, HCl tabs, cortisol buffers (due to blood work revealing super high cortisol levels all day long).
    Needless to say, I’m feeling pretty lost and don’t know what else to do other than resort back to miralax, which I was totally dependent on at the beginning of noticing major digestive and referral issues around August of ’12 for over a year. Diet, lifestyle, or other suggestions would be much appreciated! I feel quite fed up with the restrictive diet I’ve been on, and when I crave food its for things like overnight soaked steel cut oats, goat cheese in salads, grass fed red meat (which I stay away from due to low HCl), yams, baby potatoes and such. I’d never turn back to processed foods, I’m sold on the whole foods lifestyle for good and love that! Just wish I could have some more wholesome variety, and it doesn’t help that my systems basically stopped responding. Thanks for your time.

    • This link isn’t near ready yet (I’ve only got the bare bones outlines so far, as I’m so busy) but I’ve been sharing it with friends/ family with great success. I was into all those diets (and took about 50 pills/ supplements a day on and off for 7 yrs, and am *OFF* all that now, except a few enzymes. I found if you start making ferments that are guaranteed to be gut healing (*with a proper starter) you don’t need to be nearly as strict. 🙂
      http://faithintheworld.weebly.com/health.html

    • This might seam odd, but had same problems,
      What I learned through my journey is to listen to your body, simple as. Used to be vegetarian- loads of raw veggies and fruits, always bloated and constipated. Now I eat steamed veggies(half plate) and the rest is what ever I’m craving for, cuz body is sending me signals.
      Obviously your body is not taking what you’re feeding it and craving for something else, most likely if you cut of completely group of foods you’re gonna be missing some essential nutrients. MODERATION IS THE KEY! good luck

  52. I have a daughter just diagnosed with IBS-C. She has been a vegan for awhile. She changed her diet to mostly raw in December to combat the IBS. It worked briefly and then it stopped working. She is back on laxatives. She has had an endoscopy which revealed lactose intolerance. Now she is coming to the conclusion that she may not be able to be “raw”. I partly blame the raw foodists who she follows that tout the life saving benefits of their lifestyle. It may be for some, but not for all. My daughter will not eat meat ever as an ethical matter. What to do? She needs to try the lowFodmap diet to see if it will help. We are in a tough situation.

    • That is a tough situation. I was in a similar one. I started eating meat when I went on the low FODMAP diet, which is much easier than not, but it can be done. Check out Kate Scarlata’s site and her blog. (http://blog.katescarlata.com/fodmaps-basics/) She has addressed a lot of questions from vegetarians about how to get their protein on a low FODMAP diet. For example, certain kinds of tofu (firm, I think), small amounts of lentils and possibly whey protein are acceptable.

    • I have been suffering with ibs since 2 years ago. There are certain food that some website list can be eaten by ibs person that cause me stomach cramp and diarrhea. Like potato,sweet potato and yam and even tomato. Now, i am afraid to eat any vegetables or fruits. Banana and apple are very harmful for me.

    • May I suggest to your daughter that eating a whole foods diet will put less pressure on her.
      I am celiac, lactose intolerant, have difficulties digesting raw vegetables and have a great many food sensitivities. I can’t eat legumes and most glutton free grains as my body recognizes them as glutton.
      I cook (roast grill steam) all my veggies, and mostly with a healthy oil added, and cooked at lower temps.
      Including a healthy fat in most of my meals helps with feeling satiated as well as adding being healthful.
      Avacodos olives coconut oil to name a few.
      Tonight my dinner was steamed corn and peas, artichokes in vinegar, an avacodo and wild pink salmon (canned).
      Live by what feels good and being open to following different ways of eating. I eat one large meal towards the end of the day. Start my day with fresh lemons in water (warm and room temp, never cold) and fruit only until mid day with nuts and dried fruit until my meal. I found a big difference when I ate fruit alone and first part of day.
      I am 49 and really in the best health ever. Listen to your body. Stay away from processed and read labels. Less then five ingredients and they have to be real. Never things that say or include the word natural.
      I can also eat some goat cheese and some tofu but am having problems digesting all things soy, all legumes. Eating canned salmon agrees with me but not cooked. I also eat a lot of potatoes and root veggies. I also try to include organic and definitely non gmo.
      Sorry for lengthy response but just wanted to say and show you have to listen to your body. Keep reading and learning. Don’t label yourself to one diet. For those that ask, I am a whole food eater with celiac and lactose intolerant.
      I bring food to share wherever I go. Last night I brought roasted root veggies and halva. My platters were first to go.
      Carry snacks with you at all times.
      Just came back from 2 months in India and made it work food wise.
      For exercise…….yoga is it for me. It has helped me in all aspects of my life.

  53. Thank you for writing such informative information concerning how those, like myself, have digestive issues with insoluble vegetables. I was just diagnosed with my third occurrence of diverticulitis over a 3 1/2 year period and trying to find all options to avoid surgery. By reading this article it made me realize why my digestive system reacts to insoluble vegetables the way it does. Right now I am on a low residue diet and only eating soluble vegetables, mostly carrots and beets and finding my stomach so much happier. If only the doctor that cares for you would share what one should and should not eat when the digestive system is so delicate, not just during an occurrence of diverticulitis but afterwards as well. Keep your articles coming and thanks for all you do!

  54. Oh my God thank you for your article!!! I am having major issues and thought perhaps I was lactose intolerant, even though I’ve never had a problem with dairy. (I’m in Switzerland for a bit so the dairy IS different). I’ve been eating primarily veggies.. never would have thought they were the culprit. But yep, tons of insoluble fiber on an empty belly, and always a variety.

    I highly recommend Kefir to anyone experiencing digestive probs. It’s yogurt-like and usually in drinkable form, but I got some yogurt last night and had more this am, with banana and I am back to normal! Thank goodness.

  55. Thank you for your article. I have been having issues with my stomach swelling for about 8 months now and I have not been able to pinpoint what it is. Lately I have been eating healthy ( I am not overweight, just getting closer to 40 and I am trying to be healthier). Every time I eat a salad (I love salads) my belly swells and I am gassy for days after. I believe it has to be the vegetables. When I eat cooked vegetables it is not so bad. This really is no good because it takes away a lot of my quick healthy snacks and I love my snacks. LOL! Oh well, I guess.

    • No not necessarily. I have Crohn’s Disease, an IBD, and I can not digest vegetables regardless of how much water I drink. I had a salad almost three years ago and that is the last time I have had anything except for potatoes since. That experience led to a lot of pain, severe dehydration, throwing up, and diarrhea. Though it may help some, not all people that will help.

  56. I’ve been feeling sick lately and having lots of digestive issues. I wondered why because I’ve been eating so healthy. I started juicing a couple weeks ago and eating fresh veggies often. It looks like that might actually be my problem! Thanks for the article. I’m going to try cutting back on the types of veggies I’m eating and see if that helps.

  57. Only way I can eat most veggies and some fruit is by boiling them until they are limp and than puree ing them and making it like baby food.

    Most the people that have posted seem to be under weight and here I am about 80 pounds to lose. Tho I eat very little as I have so many intolerances and bouts of bloating and diarrhea. Have a very hard time losing anything. Have a hard time eating anything. Something has to give.

    • I also cannot eat most vegetables and most fruits. I am also lactose intolerant as well. No juice and no red wine. I can’t seem to digest wheat . I need to lose about
      80 lbs as well. I love tomatoes but when I have them even making a sauce I am in the bathroom for two days

  58. Thanks for the article on soluble foods and insoluble foods. I have very bad IBS, and I think raw vegetables really create havoc in my stomach. Lately I’ve been feeling really sick. One thing for sure is that I have to lose weight. I’ve lost 5 lbs in two weeks, by eating healthy, but it’s hard when you have IBS. I’ll have weeks when I feel really good, and then weeks where I feel so sick from gas, bloating, diarrhea and just loose stools. Sometimes I’m nauseous too. I’ve had several tests, and I was diagnosed with IBS.

  59. I’m just throwing this out there for you. I had HUGE histamine and food intolerances. 2 weeks before I turned 50 I was diagnosed with type 1 adult onset diabetes despite eating low carb (proteins and green veggies). 2 months after being on insulin, 95% of my histamine/ food intolerances are gone. I wasn’t absorbing any of my nutrients, I lost 20#’s in two months. I am 5’8 and was down to 96#s. My Dr’s kept telling me there was nothing wrong. I was hospitalized 3x’s last April. Again, in 8 weeks of insulin I can eat as much canned fish as I want and drink red wine and gained all my lost weight back. Point is, have you had your blood sugar tested?

    • Hi, google high carb diet cures diabetes. Also google diabetes — disease of fat cells. I think it will turn your health and world around. Good luck!

    • Don’t forget that type 2 diabetes may be attributed to lifestyle causes, type 1 diabetes is in no way caused by diet.

    • Type one diabetes does not result from poor eating habits as Type two often does. I have type one and notice my GI issues are worst when my blood sugar is high, though I have chronic “diabetic diarrhea” and can have issues no matter my numbers.
      I am glad your symptoms are better; it’s so dreadful dealing with this…

  60. I really wish Chris Kresser would address the problem of histamine intolerance and fermented foods. I’m at a loss. For the last 8 months I have developed food sensitivies all over the place. I have Hashimotos and have been gluten free for awhile, but now I can’t eat histamine rich foods or liberators, I can handle most Fodmaps either. I am down to meat and vegetables to control the dizziness from the histamine. I’ve lost 15 lbs in 3 weeks. I’m very small now at 123 and 5’4. I have been eating egg yolk, liver, beef, chicken. I have to admit, I’m now worried about my cholesterol. I am lined up with a Naturapath to get to the root cause, but it seems like forever for the appointment to get here. I’m on a probiotic without case in it. I’m taking Intramax for vitamins and minerals, l glutamine for gut healing. Sadly, I put a tsp of sauerkraut juice in my steamed greens today and felt the histamine right away.

    I went to a GI to get some tests. Honestly, I want a colonoscopy and endoscopy, just to check to see if there is anything “bad” in there. I have pain on my left side high under the ribs. My allergist said, Candida overgrowth and the GI said, no, just take antihistamines and antacids and eat wheat every day. I’ll do endoscopy in 2 months and see if you are a celiac. What? Really? I can’t put a piece of wheat in my mouth without immediately becoming dizzy.

    Trying to self medicate with all the supplements is so difficult when you don’t know what your problem is. How can I diet for Candida if that really isn’t it? I’ve been keeping all starch out except for a little white or sweet potato daily. Hashimotos people can’t thrive without carbs, so I just don’t know what to do! If I eat rice or oats and potatoes, then I feed Candida if I have it! What are the answers?

    • I have burning sensation that I can’t Identify, it feels like my lungs are on fire…since sept 15. 2014. yet I’m not sure about the source… as it feels like my whole chest is burning… antibiotics didnt help… Dr. Thinks It might be candida like you mentioned in lungs or track. I have a clean colonoscopy… I have to do three of the following… Oregano oil under my thong will help with candida issues. As I was exposed to aspergillus (fungi / candida) in august (My bro has leukemia… develpped candida on his lungs ) so its a possibility he infected me. AMerican journal of sciences says oregano oil is very effective with candida fungi issues / in lungs or track… Read about it… Also while wainting for xray of my lungs… I have to go easy on raw veggies… (I take raw smoothies in the morning )particularly cruciferus Kale… as it might be where the burning comes from… Too much of a good thing! Kale interferes with thyroid function and make you feel quite sick and tired. INQUIRE So far, The oregano oil is helping with candida issues… ( I started 4 drops under my tong once a day) the burning is less acute… I will cook veggies for two weeks to see if it helps… I am a very healthy person… I should not be sick. For the fungi candida… You could take probiotic formula for the gut flora.. good luck

    • Please see your specialist or general practitioner. Seeking medical advice from a blog is really really wrong. I don’t know what a GI is but if you’re seeing a GI and an Allergist and a Naturopath are you really getting the best health care possible? Three different professionals could give you entirely contradictory advice. Each will charge you money for it. Each will charge you money for it WHETHER YOU GET BETTER OR NOT. Actually, if you don’t get better they get to charge you MORE MONEY.
      Take care XXX

      • I saw at least 10 different specialists and M.D.s over the years for my chronic, daily headaches and acid reflux. None of them had a clue what was going on. All they did was presribe more and more pills (to treat the symptoms, not the cause) which never worked. I even had 36 Botox injections which were expensive and very painful (but didn’t help at all!). The doctors never even tried to find a cause and they certainly never looked at nutrition. Finally, I found Chris Kresser’s website and followed his diet and most of my symtoms have disappeared!! Most of the people reading this blog HAVE seen many doctors, to no avail, and are now desperate. So, please don’t tell people they shouldn’t be seeking help here and to see a “doctor”. They’ve probably seen 20 of them…..

    • You should have a hair mineral analysis done through one of Dr. Lawrence Wilson’s approved practitioners. They do Nutritional Balancing Science and test the hair for necessary minerals and heavy metals. Little did I know that these things in the body are the cause for just about all ill health. Once they get your personal test results, they tell you what supplements to take to change your body from within so it can heal from the inside out. It changed my health and my life. His website has hundreds of articles explaining almost every condition you could think of. Here’s the link to the practitioners list: http://drlwilson.com/do%20hair%20analysis.htm
      God Bless:)

  61. I found the Blood Type Diet very helpful in determining the right diet for me. I am an O+ and eat animal meat regularly. Lots of the ‘right’ veggies and low carb. Type A’s generally do better with more plant proteins vs animal and higher carb. Every person I know who has tried it says it has worked for them. For most people the complete elimination of gluten grains or grains in general as well as dairy alleviate a lot of their troubles

  62. I think I have had IBS since H.S. but it didn’t really rear it’s ugly face until I had my gallbladder removed. Then it was all down hill from there! I can no longer eat really fatty things, I can’t have a lot of meat, and only can tolerate a bit of dairy. Grease is NOT my friend. Before I had my gallbladder removed I had been doing the Suzanne Sommers Diet and lost a temendous amout of weigh only to gain and then some back. Now, my diet is meat, and bread; crackers, rice boiled veggies (small amount). I get so bored with my diet, I just crave fruits and veggies! I forget about that awful gut wrenching pain I get when I eat fruits and veggies. I call it food amnesia. Just the other day, I had bought some carrots for my daughter to nosh on afterschool. I thought ” Oh a couple of raw carrots won’t kill me” but they were so good and sweet I ended up eating 6! Oh boy! My memory was quickly restored as to why I don’t eat raw anything!!! The pain should be a reminder but sometimes my brain just doesn’t want to listen and I indulge, and then pay the price!! I also had a juicer that I bought years ago and had never taken out of the box. I thought; ” Well if I can’t eat fruits and veg I will break them down and drink their juice! I also used chia seeds that get a pocket of gel around them in the juice . It worked for a while until I had a blowout and I never ventured back!! I just want my old stomach back, I just want to eat a freeekin salad!!! I am so bored with the food i am currently eating. I go to the grocery store and wander up and down the isles trying to find something to eat. Please, if anyone can help with some IBS recipes that would be helpful! I did get an IBS DIET book but basically says to eat french bread when gut is acting up, but I am so bored of bread!!!!!! Thanks again.

    • @Gypsy B: Have you looked into the low FODMAP diet? It has a great success rate for IBS sufferers. Your diet would still be restricted, but probably not nearly as much as it is now. It worked wonders for me. It might not be the key for you, but it’s worth taking a look. Check out this site for information and recipes: http://blog.katescarlata.com/category/fodmaps/

    • Hi Gypsy. I use to be able to eat anything on the planet, with no problem. Until I started adult life. As the years, decades went by, along with more responsibility, diet priblems grew to my #1 concern. After lots of trials and errors I have found 2 solutions. One is clocking lots of outdoor hours in my day. The second is lots of soluble fiber- apples, figs, beans,

      Recently read there was a connection between sunlight into pineal gland, and gut health. Check it out.

      Haven’t completely figured things out, but it looks like I can use these 2 techniques to get my gut working the way it, before adult life.

      Hope this helps.

  63. Very interesting. I have noticed the same thing if I eat too many vegetables and I am generally someone who can eat just about anything.

    As for the coffee, I never developed a habit, because the few times I tried it, my stomach quickly warned me not to finish the cup. I’ve never had a problem with tea, however, and drink several cups per day–mostly green tea, but also quite a bit of oolong tea.

    I know tea has less caffeine than coffee, but my stomach starts to feel uneasy after a few sips of coffee and I can drink many cups of tea without issues, so caffeine does not seem to be the problem. Is it the tannin? I was under the impression that tea contained a lot of tannin as well…

  64. everytime I eat a salad of just lettuce,cucumbers and tomatoes I have to spit up all the time. I love salads why does this happen. I have tried 3 different kinds of lettuce.

    • Pat,
      I tried cucumbers while I was on an elimination diet and found I was very sensitive to cross reactivity with the cucumbers. I have a.ragweed allergy and it exacerbates some other fruits and veggies (cucumbers).
      I also ate the cucumbers.in in the morning.with no protein in my system.to absorb- bug mistake. Check cucumbers in addition to tomatoes as they are very reactive. We just don’t think they are because they are.touted as safe etc… good luck!

  65. Hi – this has been very informative reading all your comments and realising that it is about finding what works for us. I have recently bought a nutri-bullet and having great smoothies with loads of fruit and added nutrition such as Macca, protein powder, hemp powder, chia seeds, spirilina added. This keeps me going easily until lunch but I think I may be overdoing the variety of fruits in one go.
    I take digestive enzymes every day which helps and one thing that a nutritionist recommended which helped a great deal is linseeds – these need to be organic linseeds – make is Linusit Golden linseeds. I used to buy in the supermarket but now I can purchase this type on Amazon. It is important you get the right type. Put some in a glass at night and put boiling water on them – allow to soak over night then drink down in the morning. Not very appetising so just open up and drink down. – it may take some adjusting but certainly with constipation it soothes and is really good for you.
    I hope each and everyone of you finds the answer as this is life-limiting eh?

    • You can easily turn that into an appetizing pudding. If you can handle cocoa, just a bit of cocoa powder works wonders. And use almond milk.

      Unless there is specific reason to, I wouldn’t use boiling water since the fats in linseed (aka flax) is sensitive to heat.

  66. Been having trouble for a long time now. Your article makes so much sense to me. I am now going to give it a go. This has helped me understand why I am feeling the way I do.
    Thank you so much

  67. I’ve only just read this article and it interests me very much. I had to undergo a coloscopie (French – I live in France) a couple of weeks ago and one of the things I had to do on the run up to the procedure was to cut out all green veggies and no fresh bread. I was very mystified by this but now that you have explained it, it is all a lot clearer. Thanks a lot. Will endeavour to cut down on these in future and hopefully my gut will improve. I am a vegetarian by the way.

  68. The only thing I have ever found to help with digesting vegs., is to chew, chew, chew. If it’s like applesauce by the time I swallow, I seem to be fine. Unfortunately, I’m the gobble and swallow type. I know. It’s very bad but it’s really a struggle to chew as much as I need to, to process vegs. But it does work. I still don’t think we need THAT many veg./fruit. If you look at apes or gorillas, they seem to chew on the same plant leaf forever. Same with cows eating that grass. They chew and chew before swallowing.

  69. Hi! I’m glad to happen upon this information. Years ago, I developed anorexia and bulimia to achieve .
    I seem to eat to access to achieve a calmer stomach. I always walked around tired, bloated and gassy. For as long as I can remember prior to that, I ate until I’d achieve a feeling of fullness that actually made me feel sick and uncomfortable. That’s the only time I would stop eating. Since recovering from the previously mentioned disorders, I notice that when I’m eating with others, I eat only what’s on my plate but I am thinking about food all day. And if I’m alone, I will eat small things all day and not be able to stop thinking about foods. They are specific foods such as cashews, almonds, and coconut manna, salty things too. Intuitively, it seems I’m not experiencing a proper leptin response or I am not absorbing nutrition/calories.
    I don’t tolerate lactose, gluten, fructose, and caffeine well. I’m constantly out of energy but recently added near-rotten bananas to my diet and I feel a little better. I am now afraid I’ll over-consume these too. I’m not sure what to do. Any suggestions?

    • It sounds to me as if you’re still not eating enough. Take this advice with a grain of salt (so to speak…) since I don’t know your personal situation, but offhand I’d say you need to increase calorie intake (2500 per day split into three meals and three snacks is a good starting rule of thumb) but also work on relearning satiety (fullness) cues. It’s not easy, I know!

      • really depends on activity levels. 2500 can make some people big, and for others its not enough. when i did powerlifting I was eating 3500 calories a day and only worked out 3 times per week. and I didn’t gain a pound.

    • Youtube your eating disorders + HCLF (high carb low fat vegan diet). In sum, many people has cured their disorders with this diet and achieved slim healthy figure with unlimited eating. Try it. Just YouTube it.

  70. And for what it’s worth, I find I do much better with vegetables when not combined with a lot of protein. I eat small salads with protein and snack on more veggies without the protein. Best of both worlds.

  71. I was on PPI’s for a long time. Taking sodium bicarbonate helped at the worst times. It also doesn’t have the nastys that antacids have, There were periods I took HCL to help digest the proteins. Proteins can cause reflux if you have low stomach acid. Eggs can still do it for me, especially if not fully cooked but lamb/red meat never does. Go figure…

  72. Hello, I am on my ninth day of the 30 day paleo challenge and seem to be fairing well. The only problem I am having is my continued GERD that I take Prilosec and Zantac for once a day in the evenings with the hope that the supplements I take in the late mornings won’t be as badly blocked by these meds. So far I have been unable to go off the Prilosec and would like to know if I should give it another week or so as I am going now or make a change. I am eating kale, brocolli, mushrooms, some fresh green beans, plenty of meats and eggs as well. All organic/grass fed and using coconut oil for sautees and olive oil for dips and dressings (nothing added but spices, garlic, pepper, sea salt to taste). I do not believe I am eating more that 2 or 3 cups of those veggies a day and I usually cook them with my proteins. I have not been diagnosed with a hiatal hernia, but I don’t believe I’ve ever been checked for one. I’d like to get the full benefits of this diet and get off the prilosec. I am 51 in full menopause, exercise regularly (strenght and cardio) and am obese. I am healthy, no heart problems, blood pressure perfect, no diabetes or other health problems. Cholesterol controlled with Zocor. Thank you for any help you can provide, I greatly appreciate it.

    • Hi Cyndi! It takes a long time to get off the PPI’s like Prilosec. I have been weaning myself off for 2 months and still can’t go without. I’m down to one pill every other day. Soon, I will cut it down to one every 3 days and do that for a month or so. Then one pill every 4 days for a month, etc. Those drugs suppress your stomach acid and when you stop taking them, your stomach over-reacts and produces more acid. Try going off of them very slowly, and talk to your doctor next time you’re in.

  73. I’d have to disagree on eliminating greens to improve digestion. As greens and fruits take a shorter time to digest than foods high in protein, they eventually catch up to putrefying, rancidifying and decomposing dairy and meat products consumed earlier, which is what creates bloating, diarrhea etc. Eliminating dairy, meat and grains, as well as doing a liver and gallbladder cleanse has substantially improved my digestion. Not only have I not had any digestive issues ever since, but it has never been better! Moreover, my energy levels are soaring and my mind is so much clearer

  74. The problem with IBS and other inflammatory bowel conditions is that the gut is inflamed for various reasons including poor diet, high consumption of inflammatory foods, not enough gut flora (good bacteria) and food intolerances and allergies.

    Eliminating sources of insoluble fibre aka vegetables is a Band-Aid solution for a bigger problem and telling people not to eat vegetables sends a poor message. Furthermore, increased animal protein and dairy consumption is associated with other digestive problems, constipation, increased inflammation, allergies and cancer. Advising people to increase animal products is advising people to take on a whole host of other problems not to mention basically increasing allergenic and inflammation which are causing the IBS and other problems in the first place.

    People need to eat a balanced diet, identify what their food intolerances may be, reduce inflammatory foods, increase good gut bacteria and heal the intestinal wall with glutamine, aloe and other anti-inflammatory, tissue building sources. Lets fix the cause of the problem not give out advice that just perpetuates it.

    • Absolutely. It’s that balanced diet that’s very difficult to establish as trying to relate symptoms to whatever that cause them is often a hit-and-miss endeavour.

  75. I have had a big improvement to digestive issues and candida since starting the GAPS diet 6 months ago, I no longer get IBS, soft stools, very little bloating or wind and my candida has also improved. I don’t eat all that is allowed on the GAPS diet as I still have to avoid certain foods that aren’t candida friendly, like honey etc, but I am thoroughly enjoying the meals I have been eating since starting the diet, and over all am feeling healthier and well nourished.

  76. wow. way too many different conversations going on here to make sense of it all. that goes for the entire internet as well. anyway. my belly hurts, badly. all day, everyday. bm troubles for 6 years now- pain, bleeding, constipation, diarhea, mucus, spasms, fissures, lower back & kidney pain. lots of bad mojo. doctor said high fiber diet. Ruined Me. 2 months ago had an ear infection- took z-pac & sudafed for it. belly pains went from monthly to hourly, tripled in pain level, & the internet is worthless. nothing helps the pain. have basically given up. wore out, you know? it`s Every Day, over & over, no relief. Like some caricature of the sick-lady on a tv show. Some joke. anyway. tried many things. fads. advice. logic. experiments. huntches. Nothing Helps. GI appointment next month (45 day wait…) so maybe they`ll figure it out. Mirolax every day till then & hope its not life-threatening or something. perhaps time to fast. or pray. heh.

    • Rocko, I’m sorry you’re having so many problems. I had a similar experience, and have found a solution. The GI i saw last (doctor #47) recommended a stick elimination diet. (3-5 days on chicken in chicken broth, pureed carrots, gelatin made with 100% fruit juice and unflavored gelatin, and broiled hamburgers. Nothing else except water.) After doing that for 5 days, I started adding foods back in, using a low FODMAP list as a guide. I found out that virtually everything I was eating was causing me some kind of problem. The worst offenders for me were gluten and dairy, but I also can’t eat hardly any vegetables and very few fruits. My diet is very limited in choices, but for the first time in my life, I am out of pain. I still have diarrhea, but the doc said I may have nerve and muscle memory for that and may always have it and that it does not shorten my life.

      The point is – everybody’s dietary tolerances are different. Try the elimination diet and see which foods are causing you the most problems.

      • Oh, that’s encouraging to hear knowing I am not the only one who can’t seem to eat veggies and fruits. I went to another paleo site and got discouraged that it said there’s more of a risk for people in getting cancer when they eat minimal veggies with even grass fed beef . Something about the veggies having anti- cancer properties . But I’m thinking what about people who have GI problems and have miserable problems eating those veggies like bok Choy and kale with insoluble fiber ?

  77. In 2008 I started aching & then was subsequently diagnosed with Psoratic arthritis. I’m not sure if it was the disease or the medication I’m on. But I went from being about to eat everything to having digestion issues.
    Start of the year it got to the point where if I are something that didn’t agree with my stomach I would get sweaty, pale & have chest pains. At one point I though it was having a heart attack. ( I’m only 32)
    So I cut out wheat, Milk ( jar set yougurt without artificial sugars etc is ok) & I would still get bloated & look 10 months preg, especially if I had a stir fry.
    So than I’ve cut out onion, garlic, all vegetables high in fructans & olio-saccharides.
    I pay for it big time if I eat any.
    Some times it’s a bit boring having limited veges but my belly loves me for it.

  78. I decided to “eat healthy” about eight months ago and started to drink green smoothies every morning for breakfast. Up until that point I hardly ate many veggies, especially greens. Did extreamly well for 3 months then started to have digestive issues after every smoothie. Bloating, pain, tired and even a burning sensation in my stomach. One by one I removed everything from my smoothie trying to find what was causing my symptoms. The last thing I removed was the kale, spinach, bok choy etc and only then did my symptoms go away. Who knew greens could be bad for you?! I understand now that I need to cook those first.

  79. Limiting FODMAPS definitely helped me with SIBO. However, fermented foods actually caused my SIBO and I can’t tolerate even a small amount. I also can’t tolerate broccoli, cabbage, kale or cauliflower in any form, but luckily have no problem with lettece, spinach or Swiss Chard. Limiting food choices is not always convenient, but the results are worth it.

  80. This is the worst article I have ever read. Does this guy work for the meat and dairy industry? Adding greens to my diet was the only thing that helped me cure and heal my digestion problems. I lost 40 lbs by adding 10-16 ounces of greens per day, while eating a high carb, low fat plant based diet.

    • Jan,
      Me too! Been a raw high (fruit) carbs vegan for 8 yrs. Not cooking my produce and eating mostly fruits is what keeps my bowels moving. I’ve tried various diet lifestyles and that’s the one that works for “me”.

    • I think it depends on the “kind” of digestive issues you have. There is obviously truth to what Chris is saying. To see that, all you have to do is read some of the comments and learn about people’s experiences.

      • I agree. It seems to me from listening to people about what kinds of foods make them feel good, some people have trouble digesting sugars (fodmaps) and some people have trouble digesting proteins like gluten or animal meats. I think it all comes down to genetics and what enzymes your body makes more of. There isn’t one diet that fits everyone.

    • The author has a good point about insoluble fibers. Cellulose and other difficult-to-digest fibers CAN put a strain on the digestive system. They can, however, be digested when eaten in their youngest and most tender state, thoroughly chewed or mechanically pre-digested using a blender or a food processor. What IS easily digestible are soft, soluble fibbers found in fruits and tender leafy greens. Instead of eliminating vegetables, the intake of fruits and veggies should be increased to take up a large portion of the diet, if not constitute the whole diet, if you are looking to improve your digestion. I have been doing liver cleanses and have been raw vegan now for about a month and I am not intending to look back as my health has improved drastically, including constipation, headaches, lack of energy, etc. The books I have read have given me so much information and have transformed my mindset completely. These are: The Amazing Liver and Gallbladder Flush by Andreas Moritz and 80/10/10 by Dr. Douglas Graham. I am not trying to sell anything as I haven’t written the books, just speaking from experience, so that others can reap the benefits of a truly healthy diet as well.

  81. Somehow I ended up this site after googling vegetables giving loose stool I have only been having this problem recently within the last month I eat something like spinach or asparagus which I love and next thing you know my stomach is hurting badly and I have very loose stool this has never happened before and its pretty painful almost feel like stomach cramps however it only happens sometime I have ate a salad or had brocolli with a meal and been fine

  82. Hi, i dont know if someone can help me but i try to explain my issue that start back in 2012 with abdominal pain.

    after months of GI visits and exams the only things they find out was SIBO, and probably it cause ibs-c or viceversa. My life become a pain since then and i lose 35 kg (i was 84 now i’m about 60).

    90% of the time i ate i have immediately after bloating and my gut become swollen, but this is not the bad part, the bad part is the abdominal pain in the low abdomen and the straining to have a bowel movement after the first one.

    I explain better this part, every morning i have a normal bowel movement without any straining or pain, the first part of my stools are a bit hard, small fragments, while the rest is soft.
    After this my gut start to hurt, the low abdomen in the right and left side, like i have knives, and it remain after i have another bowel movement later (about 2-3 hours later), but this time i need heavy straining because my stools are hard, small and filled with mucus (viscous and white liquid).
    Then the pain disappear but later again in the afternoon (and after lunch) i have pain again, bloating and i’m forced to strain again to have a bm.
    Is painfull and insopportable, make my life miserable.

    Actually i’m on low carb diet limiting carb only to 80 grams (rice), rest is meat, eggs and fish. I tried to eat more fiber, like boiled zucchini, carrots or green beans but everytime i try them my pain and bloating increase for the next 24 hours.

    Drinking warm water (a tisane) with psyllium seems not have any result and the pain and bloating increase. Drinking lemon juice make my stools more hard and the pain increase.

    I don’t know what to do anymore, can someone with a similar issue can help me to find a solution to leave this hell? Maybe paleo diet is not for me? Maybe to much meat cause my stool so hard? Or my disbiosis is so sever that there is nothing more that i can do?

    Thanks a lot (and sorry for my bad english).

    • Had the exact same issues as you! You’re Very Much on the Right path with a paleo similar diet (rice is fine, for some carbs) and low veggies/ fiber (I liked the book Fiber Menace). It just takes a lot of time to heal. For me I couldn’t take regular psyllium (tried about 10 brands with no luck)…. it would make things a million times worse!!! Yet I needed something. What worked for me is Colonix Fiber… as it’s not just made with psyllium but a blend of 15 masterfully blended Herbs…. only people like us can’t tolerate a Full Dose at once. I take 1/2 scoop before breakfast….. maybe another 1/4- 1/2 scoop later in the day too. Since you can’t wean yourself off fiber supp yet, drink the extra water with this of course. Also take Dr Schulze Intestinal Formula #1 with meals to keep things moving, along with enzymes/ hcl/ probiotics 🙂

  83. I was diagnosed with celiac disease about a year ago, and also have IBS. After being on a gluten free diet for a year, I was better but still had diarrhea and abdominal pain. My doctor had me try a soothing, simple diet for 5 days (pureed carrots, chicken soup that is only stock and chicken, plain gelatin flavored with 100% fruit juice, and broiled burgers) then start adding foods in from the low FODMAP list. I discovered that I am casein intolerant, and, surprisingly, I can’t eat almost any vegetables! Your article is the first I’ve read that supports my findings and makes me feel like I’m okay to not eat as many vegetables as I have always been told to eat. I am now out of pain, I have lost 12 pounds, and I can feel my gut healing. It’s clear that a diet that will work is so individual that you just have to go through the process of learning what’s okay for you.

  84. Interesting article. I’ve googled “not digesting vegetables” and ended up here.

    Ever since I came out of oral surgery and had 2 weeks of antibiotics, then 3 roothcanals and another 3 antibiotics treatments of 3 weeks total… My gut has never been the same. Taking daily heavy doses of probiotics doesn’t help nor prescription meds to stop “going”. Your article will surely help some so I’m going to give it a try! Thanks!

  85. I love my raw vegetables and fruit! So I decided to go as much raw as possible and have experienced abdominal pains ever since. I am still having my gut investigated but noticed that whenever I eat bread, cheese and ‘certain’ cooked vegetables, my gut issues dissipate. If I dare each a raw vegetable (which I don’t anymore), they come back! It is sad as I love crunching ‘living’ foods.

  86. after 10+ years of abdominal swelling, gas and daily morning urgency and diarrhea I have finally figured out to avoid high-histamine foods as well as high insoluble fiber foods. It took a long time to figure out because there were 2 triggers, but I share this because there is hope for those of us with persistent problems. these diet modifications are a pain but it has completely eliminated my symptoms (the fiber part took a couple of weeks to completely clear up) and it is AMAZING to feel normal again. I can travel, don’t get up hours before everyone else so as not to be embarrassed and generally feel very healthy. YAY!

  87. NOTE: The email on my first comment is no longer valid so using my new one here.

    Hi, I have a strange thing that happens and cannot figure it out…I go through a very HARD detox when I go off wheat/gluten…to the point where I have hard, burning pain in my stomach, my digestive tract becomes spasmed and hard to even walk and function. My digestion becomes very impaired and I don’t tolerate much of anything. This would be ok if it were just for a time BUT it doesn’t seem to let up! The longest I have been able to go was one month! I also go into a depression and get very low and weepy and don’t want to go out to be around people! Which is so not like me! If I eat a little wheat again, then it calms back down to my “normal” upset/bloat/joint pain that I experience when eating wheat. I have tried so many different ways to eat during this time, juicing only, eating only chicken broth with chicken (couldn’t handle fats)…etc. But I always end up in this same place of pain. Any thoughts on this Dr. Kessler?? I feel so stuck! I want off the wheat because I know it’s creating a lot of issues for me (have had severe digestive issues since a young child) Anyone here experience anything like this?

  88. Hi, I have a strange thing that happens and cannot figure it out…I go through a very HARD detox when I go off wheat/gluten…to the point where I have hard, burning pain in my stomach, my digestive tract becomes spasmed and hard to even walk and function. My digestion becomes very impaired and I don’t tolerate much of anything. This would be ok if it were just for a time BUT it doesn’t seem to let up! The longest I have been able to go was one month! I also go into a depression and get very low and weepy and don’t want to go out to be around people! Which is so not like me! If I eat a little wheat again, then it calms back down to my “normal” upset/bloat/joint pain that I experience when eating wheat. I have tried so many different ways to eat during this time, juicing only, eating only chicken broth with chicken (couldn’t handle fats)…etc. But I always end up in this same place of pain. Any thoughts on this Dr. Kessler?? I feel so stuck! I want off the wheat because I know it’s creating a lot of issues for me (have had severe digestive issues since a young child) Anyone here experience anything like this?

  89. Hi All,
    Since it became pregnant I’ve had a serious problem digesting green veg and these “insoluble fiber” products. If I stop eating them it helps, but I’d like to maintain my life style so I’ve tried a few things. A multivitamin with intestinal probiotics, and also added some gut health vitamin which is considered a bacteria. They have helped but I still have issues. Cooking veg or eating fermented veg as suggested here doesn’t remedy these problems either.
    A few points raised that concern me; the author suggested that we might in fact be causing inflammation and therefor hurting ourselves if we continue to eat these offenders? Hmm, that is a major concern. Also, a poster suggested taking too many supplements to “cure” the problem may lead down another road we don’t want to go! Point taken.
    Now, lastly, and it spoke to a gal about the Paleo Revolution that us going in now; no grains is the key. I’m going to try this now, and also no more raw veg. The key is everyone has different issues here. We all must take what we read lightly….figure out what works best for you and your stomach.

  90. i have been underweight since i was 13 years old. i didn’t know what to eat. milk and dairy gave me the wet poo. fruits and vegis hurt me too. my parents only bought 2 pounds of meat a week(be it fish or w.e) we had tons of grains in the house and i was always sickly. finaly i moved out of my house and took out a $10,000 loan to invest in myself and eat healthy. in the first 3 months i gained 40 pounds of weight alone(i was 115) i know look and feel healthier then ever before. i got finanly had an interview that the dude didnt think i was on drugs and i got hired without knowing someone inside the company.. however i was still sick like diarrhea lots of bloating and gas in the morning and just overall sucky but better than starving. Then i cut back on fruits AND VEGIS(started loading up on aspargus) and loading up on protien and meats i drink over a gallon of water a day and even more than 2 if i sweat alot. the gas and bloating are nearly eliminated. iv been rllly sick the past 2 days but im hopeful i really think i was plauged by the candida virus. i dont even look fat after gaining all that weight either. my stomach was huge until i cut oui fruits and vegis and any grains now its fit and lean.

    my advice EAT MEAT EAT FISH EAT fruits and vegetables seasonally(or find out what your gut likes you know yourself better than i do) just like our ancestors have done for hundreds of thousands of years. also i belive that even though grain has only been introduced in the past 10,000 years that many people would benefit alot from ancient grains. i belive while many think evolution takes millions of heres for anything significant to happen. i think the bacteria in our gut has changed much faster than us. and i belive that we have gut bacteria that can break down grain thAT 10,000 YEARS AGO OUR ANCETORS COULD NOT EAT BUT WE CAN EAT BECAUSE our gut bacteria has been going through millions and billions of generations.

  91. Chris, just found this article and I can’t stop nodding my head in agreement! You’ve validated everything I’ve been saying for years now — through a lot of not-so-pleasant trial and error. I limit my vegetables (6-8 servings a day?? Are they kidding?!), and often put them in my mini food processor and chop them into tiny bits before steaming them to death. People think I’m crazy and all I can say is this is how I (i.e. my gut) can happily tolerate them. One big discovery just occurred 3 weeks ago: I can’t handle wheat. I used to live on pasta and bread when my IBS flared, and I finally figured out it was making me worse. I’ve seen 95% improvement since eliminating wheat — and it happened within 24 hours. Whether it’s gluten or the FODMAP in wheat, I don’t know or care. Bread and wheat pasta are out! I also just started drinking kefir a few days ago (ordered grains to make my own) and fermenting vegetables, which I’ll eat once my body adjusts to the probiotics in the kefir. Thanks for writing on all these topics!

  92. I’m glad I found this article. It explained the pain I’m suffering from this week. I started a new diet and I ate in one day lettuce, green pepper and green beans. I had painful diarrhea on that day and now I hv stomach ache that only white toast will make it go away!!!

  93. Hi,

    I had been suffering from a chronic anal fissure and hemorriohds for over six months, extreme pain, and at the end of my tether and awaiting surgery.

    Doctors advice eat more fibre, so started eating bran flakes for breakfast, salads for lunch and swapped to brown rice/pasta/bread and upped my fruit and veg in take.

    I couldn’t understand why I was getting worse, large hard dry stools, several times a day and made my condition much worse, pain and bloating also followed. I did some research and found out about soluble and insoluble fibre, I cut out all insoluble fibre and started eating only soluble fibre.

    Wow what a difference my stools are like puff’s of air, easy to pass, only go once a day, no pain, gas or bloating – it really has changed my life, I have healed and no longer require surgery.

    I can not believe the advice of my GP and Consultant, why did they not know or explain about soluble and insoluble fibre – 6 months of extreme pain for no reason

    • I saw your comment about fissures and wanted to share that I, too, had a fistulotomy while on a high-fiber diet. see my comment below for my story. YAY for both of us 🙂

  94. I have done everything, as everyone stated above. Steam veggies, raw veggies, more veggies, less veggies. More fruit, less fruit, more water, less water, more protein, less protein, liquid diets, cut out processed foods, breads, soak nuts, soak grains. Over and over, and over.

    Guess what, some peoples bodies, just cannot break down foods. I noticed I had constipation since I was 14 years old, I am now 54, my liver was congested from infrequent bowel movements.

    Finally after lots of money down the drain for the next great fix, doctor visits, guess what it’s called, ENZYMES, IT BREAKS YOUR FOOD DOWN. Eat smaller portions of veggies and FRUIT, not a lot at one time, and when you eat raw VEGGIES, roll them in your favorite healthy oil, or drizzle your salad with your favorite oil, this is called LUBRICATION!

    Also, add you some magnesium in there too!

    I found my cure!

  95. Wow! I can’t beleive I read almost two years of posts. so interesting. I have celiac disease (diagnosed Sept. 2012) but going gluten free seemed to only help 50-65%. I don’t have stool. I have water. I would love to have a stool ponce again but I haven’t a clue what to add or eliminate from my diet since no combinstion really works. I do find that a primal/paleo diet I started a couple of weeks ago has made me feel better in some ways – sleep, bloating, but food just trvels through me lickety split in liquid form no matter how much insoluble fiber I avoid. I done so many food journals and elination diets and have not found any answers. I know that generally veggies are agreeable and why I’m here. No what.

    • I’ve had chronic diarrhea for about ten months. A week ago I introduced two slippery elm (tincture drops in water) doses daily, between meals, and it ceased after about 4 days. The IBS and nonresponsive digestive system of the past 12 years are still at issue, but it did stop the diarrhea. I can’t eat any of the first list of vegetables and only the first 3 of the second list. Also no meat, poultry, soy, eggs, sugar, gluten, and many fruits. Subsisting on a few non gluten grains, goat milk and cheese, yogurt, applesauce, banana, plum, peach, blueberry, lentils, avocado, occasional salmon, and the aforementioned vegetables. Have been diagnosed (by other than medical testing) with a T1-T2 transfer issue, which is about the messages sent from the thyroid to the rest of the body, and am taking n-acetyl choline for this. Also something to consider: I’m electrosensitive. If you spend a lot of time around computers and other screens, cell phone, etc., start googling EMF syndrome — there are gadgets out there that can protect some people.

  96. Hi, Chris,
    I’d like to thank you for the wonderful article. I can confirm that vegetables with high insoluble fiber such as spinach, cabbage, kale make me constipated, although zucchini, cucumber, yam and squash normalize my stool. For about 2 years and 6 months I have been observing the diet issues with my weaken digestion due to, I believe, aging problem.

    • Olga,
      I have been low carb and constipated all my life. I only ate green veggies and zero starch. I have recently added 2 oz sweet potato to all 3 meals and carrots and black beans to one of them and now I never miss a day, sometimes more than once. I’m not sure which is doing it but it sure works like a charm!!!

      • Hi, Kristin
        Thanks for sharing your diet “magic”, may I know how do you make sweet potato (pure, fry..) and carrots with black beens too? I also believe the way of cooking may change the final result. By the way traditionaly we use lots of saturated fat with veggies like lard, ghee and becon.
        Thanks again,
        Olga

        • Hi Olga,
          I do agree cooking may change things but the sweet potatoes are one of the few things I microwave. I usually don’t put anything on them, just straight up. occasionally I will roast them in a little oil. I don’t cook in saturated fat except for eggs and I use a little Kerry Gold butter. I use Edens organic black beans and just use my emersion blender to make Hummus. They are soaked in Kombu seaweed and this makes them easier to digest. I dip carrots and celery in it. Something about this combination works wonders. I don’t eat large portions either. 2 oz each but at all three meals usually. I have recently been diagnosed with adult onset type 1 diabetes and have to monitor my carbs so at this point, eating the same things makes it easier. I vary my proteins and fats and vegetables and always have cold and cooked vegetables along with the potato and beans. I NEVER ate starch before but like I said, it’s my magic bullet for constipation. I hope this helps.

  97. Hi– I ve stomach ache , cramps , diarrhae ,gas for quite sometime now — kindly suggest proper diet n also wat could b te reason– my doctor gave me oxaflaxon n orindazole n was k for sometime but m havin problem again– thanks

  98. During the past few years I started caring more about my health and consuming a nutritious diet. As a result, I now consume a large quantity of fiber, especially vegetables. However, over the past few years and especially the past few months, I’ve been having digestive issues and often feel bloated and gassy after meals and I regularly need to go to the bathroom. In the last week or so, I decided I was sick of feeling uncomfortable after eating and visited the doctor. I’ve currently handed in some stool samples (still waiting for the results) and will get blood tests done on Monday to find out if I have any food allergies. I thought it might have been dairy, even though I experience it after most meals, which don’t necessarily have dairy in them. I also just read a book on digestive issues and it said that the cure was to go completely plant-based and cut out any animal products (basically vegan). So today I bought a tonne of vegies and fruits and thought today I would begin my plant-based diet. However, it is now the end of the day and I’m in complete pain! I worked it out on calorie count (a website) and I’ve consumed 45 grams of fiber and no dairy. This made me question that maybe fiber was my problem, as these days I have a lot of it in every meal. Then reading this article has basically clarified to me that fiber could in fact be the cause of my digestive issues over the past year and I definitely feel like I should start trying to limit (I’ll still eat enough of it, but not too much).

    • see my comment below – I too was eating in the range of 40 grams of fiber a day – a lot of it from lentils and brown rice. the improvement after I really cut back on insoluble fiber (I still eat plenty of veg, tho) was remarkable. the final thing I had to give up was my great big salad for lunch – the lettuce, even if chopped just did not agree with me. I also take digestive enzymes and probiotics, but had been for over a year before reducing fiber finally got me healthy again 🙂 good luck!

  99. Awesome details…..just what i needed in order to still benefit from solid foods…mashed sweet potatoes and beets I love…I will try those. Thanks a bunch!!!

  100. Yes! Ok! I’m in my 40’s and had always eaten anything I wanted. I had the stomach of a goat. Then two years ago I had gall bladder surgery and all changed. They said Don’t eat meat and fat. Eat rice and veggies. I did. I was sicker than I’d been so far! Many months after surgery I had had it! I felt like I was worse than I was before surgery. Everything I ate made me sick! I went to the Paleo-style diet and only ate excellent quality beef, chick and fish! My stomach began improving steadily. I still get horribly ill and vomit the entire following day anytime I eat any type of green salad. Yes I’ve tried plain romaine and homemade vinaigrette, I’ve experimented….it ALL makes me ill. My don’t surgeons and many other medical professionals know that the post gall bladder surgery diet they are prescribing is making people really sick! I’ve talked to literally dozens of people who’ve had the surgery in recent years and they were ALL told the same thing I was, and MANY were really sick, didn’t know why, and took it upon themselves to change their diet and only then got relief.

    Thank you!
    Carrieb

  101. I had my Gyno (of all people) tell me to stoo eating raw green leafy veggies. We juice everu=y morning and 90% of it is green raw leafy veggies.

    she said steamed or cooked is ok, so going to try it and see.

    I had H-pylori and SIBO and those both have been eradicated but now its IBS. every single day I am in pain and have lost 50+lbs

  102. Yep, worked for me. Had gut issues for some time….was eating lots of veges (thinking I was doing the RIGHT thing and being super healthy)…my gut was getting worse and worse. Has taken 3 years to get a handle on it. Docs kept telling me to eat more fibre. Then another would tell me it’s just that I’m getting old (that was a goodie, like – who’s getting young?). Had colonoscopys (Dad died of bowel cancer at a younger age than I am now), went to natural therapists of all varieties, tried prescription drugs. Nothing helped. About 2 weeks ago I decided to severely restrict greens – now only eat zucchini, small amount of green peas, lots of pumpkin, sweet potato etc – haven’t had a rough night (wind, pain, horrible all night long !!!) since then. Hoping it continues. Mind of miss my broccoli and cauliflower (used to have huge meals with mostly veges) but love not having pain. And also not being constipated…how about that? Also helped with that problem. Hope this helps others.

    • Hello. I was wondering how u r doing now with eating more starchy veggies only. I’m in a mix BC greens kill my stomach but syrachy veggies though satisfying make me crave them to eat more and more and I’ve put on weight. Thanks for your posting.

  103. I have had stomach pains after eating apples, bananas, and celery on a raw stomach for years. I’ve searched everywhere for a cause. My doctor even laughed at me when I asked her why I have stomach pain. She told me to eat a cheeseburger instead of veggies–hah. Thank you so much for the list of insoluble vs soluble. I just came off terrible stomach pain after snacking on raw celery, and googled and found you. Thanks for finally making it so clear!

  104. I’m glad to know that the rule of eating 6-7 servings of veggies isn’t scientific. I have been trying to do that and I have IBS and it has been so hard on me to eat veggies…even cooked. I like fruits but now they are saying they are high in sugar. Good grief. Is anything really good for us anymore?

  105. Squash is not a vegetable, it is a fruit related to blueberries. Plantains are also a fruit related to bananas. Just a heads up.

    My issue is that for a while I was eating plant source foods because I could not afford meat and it sent me to the hospital with B-vitamin deficiencies. I am a self-proclaimed carnivore, I love meat, especially wild meat, and I eat it raw, warmed up most of the time, but raw. I find that most people with gut problems tend to be vegans, which is sad really. The human body is not meant to process all that plant material like a cow or horse.

    But there are diseases like Crohn’s and IBS that run rampant, those people need to seek advice from specialists if they can afford it. Gut problems can get in the way of life. Thanks for the article though, it really puts things into perspective about how the body handles a food that it cannot actually digest (bacteria in our gut digest it, but we do not have a big enough stomach/gut with flora in it to ferment it like herbivores, our enzymes and acids break down protein perfectly).

  106. So what would a balanced meal specificallylook like if llimiting ur veg? Veggies help keep my satiated, but they def don’t digest and I deal with bad constipation too

  107. well i have ibs and hashimotos but have more problem with vegetables that are in your high in soluble fiber category. the cause me intense stomach cramps and will cause diarrhea not all but most in that category and it is the ones which are sweet tasting i love the taste but the other category only onions are a problem. i have had ibs for 32 years would like something that helps me be able to eat veg with out the cramps i have been paleo for 2 months we will see what that does

  108. Try eating for your blood type! Seems good for me so far…. Suffered with IBS and Diverticular Disease for many years until I myself did a little research….. Eat For Your Blood Type! And I’m also maintaining a better weight. Feeling not so lethargic…. Worth a shot! Good luck.

  109. Hey everyone. I just hate IBS. I really do. even after taking several enemas including I think it was microlax or miralax and movicol and normicol plus and some laxatives I see no great improvement. The enemas help a bit but I still have severe constipation and soo much gas and bloating I lost so much weight too. I actually feel heavier than before due to the bloating and pain. Am now about 97Ib and 5’3″ and a half. the funny thing is that the doctor told me to eat more vegetables!!! I did and it doesn’t work. My food also doesn’t get digested properly so ill try the “limiting vegetable approach.” thanks for this article 🙂

  110. I thought I was doing a good thing by increasing my intake of veg to 5 cups/day and 2-3 fruit/day. I now have such bad bloating I look like I’m pregnant! I hope it resolves soon I don’t want to leave the house like this!!

  111. I’ve noticed a considerable difference in my digestive troubles by reducing veggies high in insoluble fiber. I also take a daily prebiotic. I don’t ignore the nutritional benefits of vegetables though. For example, if eating a salad of raw vegetables and greens, I simply reduce the amount I eat. There’s a huge misconception out there about portion sizes, too. This is where writing down what and how much you eat of a particular food can reveal what foods don’t jive with your digestive system. Thanks for your article. Friends and relatives for years have disagreed with my seemingly low intake of green vegetables. Understanding that not every gut is created equally has merit.

  112. I have been diagnosed with gastroparesis, the official wording was “significantly reduced digestion”. The pain, bloating, consitpation and nausea were really bad at first because of a bad suggestion to get more fiber. Later I read a book about gastroparesis eating and confirmed with a better GI doctor that I should eat less fiber and fat. The book was very useful and I highly recommend it. You can find it here: http://www.amazon.com/Living-Well-Gastroparesis-Answers-
    Healthier/dp/0615547753/ref=pd_sim_b_1

    Still have problems with pain, although it reduced to the point that I can do more than sleep all day, and the other symptoms are much better since limiting my veggies especially. Wish everyone luck with their digestive issues.

  113. Kia Ora Chris

    I’ve had IBS for 20 years. I’ve found that high fibre is a no go for me, I’m actually better off eating white bread, preferably chewy white bread (French style). Corn is definitely out. I cannot tolerate most fruits either. I recently tried the SCD diet, make my own chicken soup, yogurt, nut flour muffins, mince patties (ground beef) eat honey andeggs. Something is making my stools mushy and I read somewhere it’s too much protein. If I cannot eat fibre (veges, fruits brown grains) and protein, what can I eat? Strangely enough if I eat organic porridge (oats) soaked overnight to remove phytates then that’s ok but I cannot live on porridge alone. Your advice would be much appreciated

    Kind regards
    Cindy (bottom (excuse the pun) of New Zealand)

  114. ha every time i go to the doctor i tell them more then they know… or would like to admit to know. the only reason i go to the doctor is to have labs, biopsies, and if i break a bone or need some support cast. everything else our amazing body can handle if the environment is right (food, water, air, mind)

  115. Limiting insoluble fiber definitely helps! Also, making sure soluble fiber hits my stomach first. I eliminated all coffee and alcohol (which helped!) but when I *still* have problems after that I can *always* trace it to too much insoluble fiber. Which is a bummer for weight loss, since those are the low calorie foods that still help you feel full.

  116. Conclusion? A Paleo diet did not alleviate my constipation and raw vegetables were irritating my gut. Juicing them is giving me the benefit of the pre-biotic enzymes without the fiber, and regularity.
    Chronic constipation was my life. Medical providers recommended Metamusil (psyllium husk) and stool softeners, prune juice, bran cereal. The prune juice gave me massive gas and painful cramps, as do raisins. Eating bran cereal with milk years ago just stopped me up more. Nothing helped.
    In the past several years of trying to identify my food offenders, I have tried eating vegetarian, and vegan, but still felt miserable, bloated and irrational most of the time. About two years ago I read about the paleo diet, and haven’t looked back since. My mood and weight are stable. I no longer feel I am going cookoo. But it did not alleviate my constipation.
    I have read many posts by people whose constipation has been relieved with a paleo diet, and I just want to say that hasn’t been the case for me. It has been very frustrating not knowing why I am always constipated, or alternate with that and diarrhea. Fortunately, I have been able to piece together some answers for myself. One is that it is important to remember that we are not all alike in our digestive issues. What works for one person may not work for another. That’s why I like Chris’ Paleo Template approach. Paleo is not one size fits all.
    Suspecting that I have a leaky gut, I have been making my own bone broth (healing the gut lining) and sauerkraut (probiotics). Just this week I made my first batch of beet kvass! Recently I tested positive for sensitivities to eggs, dairy, certain nuts (almonds, walnuts, filberts) and nightshades, so I have eliminated those things from my diet, which helped with the bloating, but not really with the constipation. Even though I take 600mg of powdered Magnesium Citrate daily, I would not be regular. Until … we bought a juicer and started juicing vegetables. For the past 10 days I have been regular daily and have had outstanding elimination, for the first time in my life!
    I make sure I do not eat raw vegetables, only raw vegetable juice, until my gut is healed. I am also taking an enzyme capsule before every meal to help with digestion. So for me it seems that Chris is right on target with too much insoluble fiber. I will be juicing daily for some time now, since it is a lengthy process healing a leaky gut. Thanks Chris for the brilliant information and insight you share with us. You are greatly appreciated!

  117. I had bloody loose stools, cramps/bloating, cystic acne, lower back pain, migraines 2+ times per month (bad enough to make me throw up), and lethargy from age 24-30. When I turned 30 I changed to a whole foods plant based diet (with occasional vegan cupcakes/unhealthy stuff here and there). About 6 months into the diet I noticed that my back pain was gone, as were my digestive problems, but I still had some issues. When I was about 32 I stopped eating bread and wheat on a regular basis, only once in a while as a treat. That made my migraines and cystic acne go away. I am elated. I am now 35, a runner for the first time in my life, my skin is glowing.. I have more running/hiking stamina than I did when I was 18! I feel amazing! Hope this helps someone out there.. everybody is different!

  118. I had c-dif for approximately a year and a half (it went undiagnosed because I didn’t have the normal symptoms of diarrheah, rather I had constipation with loose stools when I was able to move my bowels.) But since I had a fecal transplant this past September, I’ve been feeling better and better every day and several stool tests have shown that I am cdiff free. About a week and a half ago I began a strict raw food/vegetable/nut diet in order to detox my body, despite the fact that my digestive tract isn’t 100% better yet. At first I was going to the bathroom and cleaning out fully at least once a day, yet I saw a ton of undigested fruits and veggies in my stool I think this dietary change was a mistake- I’ve been having a lot of abdominal pain and bloating for the past two days ( I thought it was a phytobezoar from all the persimmons I’ve been eating but my gastro says it isn’t) and I am not able to move my bowels much. I get the feeling that I have to go, but when I do almost nothing comes out, and what does is rather loose. As soon as I started feeling pain I went back to a cooked food diet, but I still can’t move my bowels much. I am pretty uncomfortable and worried. Do you think this set back is just due to a dietary change gone awry considering my intestines weren’t back to their fully working condition again? It seems odd that I would suddenly have c-dif again after having several tests done over the past few months to ensure that it’s gone, all having come back negative for the bug.
    I’m a bit worried to say the least.

    • @Sam. It is possible that c-diff can hide and not show up on the tests. I don’t know for sure but it is possible with other gut bugs. It is clear your gut is still not really well. Once it gets inflamed it can take a long time to heal and be really sensitive to many foods. I have had gut problems since childhood and have tried many diets. What I have learned is to find my safe foods and to keep going back to them. No diet worked perfectly but I am doing really well now after years of experimentation. I may have got there quicker if I had listened to my body more and other people less. A few things worth passing on are: 1. digestion is King: pooping out undigested food is a sign you are not digesting well. Pay close attention to what your gut is telling you. 2. fermented vegetables as mentioned in this article really help digestion 3. gelatin (L-glutamine) is very healing for the gut and the best and cheapest source is to slowly simmer meat joints and skin. Look up making bone broth. 4. Eliminate food until you find your safe envelope and retreat there quickly every time you get inflamed. Be kind and forgiving to your body. May 2014 be your year to be really well.

  119. I’m 5’11 (232 lbs) and I’ve been going to the intestinal specialist for 8 years. I tried everything and nothing works and the doctor told me lose weight! lose weight! eat better! eat better! so I got and the end of my rope and stop eating for 4 months just liquid and soups made from scratch (vegies) everybody start getting real scared I was down to 171 from 232 pounds!!! I lost 61 pounds and look skinny and you know what I felt worst on a empty stomach or full so now I’m at a respectable 191 for my size still hurting and really fed up of life!!!!

  120. I can eat a lot of carbs with protien and I’ll feel great. I thought I would try to eat a bit healthier by having a big salad for lunch, with snacks of carrots and strawberrys. Well did my colon not like that at all. Cramps and running to the toilet frequencly. Going to have to take that down to a low level. Its a shame, because I really liked eating all these raw foods as main meals. Tired of eating crappy processed foods.

  121. I have had problems with green veggie consumption all my life. (Particularly the very dark green ones.) They have always given me major acid reflux, indigestion and bathroom probs. When I was boarding, the lady who owned the house did a lot of cooking with them. Not wanting to upset her I forced myself and then spent the night on Rolaids etc. Since having my own place, I haven’t eaten them and my stomach problems etc disappeared. Since I know that the veggies are good, I’ve been having V8 Fusion hoping that would help since it has veggies in it. Seems to be working.

  122. I have suffered and I do mean suffered for years with digestion issues. However last year (December 2012) something set it off and the pain lasted for over three months. It was horrible. After experimenting with what I was eating which was basically nothing I finally got relief, however it was short lived. The pain returned in June 2013 and last until August. It was during this time that my doctor suggested the vegetables. I rarely ate raw broccilli, cauliflower, etc. But we were eating salads like they were going out of style. My stomach was so bloated I felt pregnant, finally at the urging of my doctor I quit vegetables (raw) and I got relief, I also started taking activated charcoal. I have/had been pain free for about 3 months until this week when I ate broccilli and even though it was cooked I have had tremendous pain and bloating and constipation. I started thinking of all the vegetables I have eaten with no pain and my list agrees with the list you provide. Potatoes, Sweet Potatoes, squash and carrots. Having a better understanding is so very helpful, I am gaining weight now which is not a great thing but feeling better overall.

  123. Thank you for this post, I will defenitely give it a good try. I found what looks like a good specification
    of fiber content in different foods, but I am not sure what is actually considered high/low soluble/insoluble, should I consider the absolute amounts, or just the ratio between the 2 types – If someone can tell how do I figure from these values what is considered high vs low vs moderate, that would be great !

    http://www.jacksongi.com/fiber-content-of-foods/vegetables-and-legumes?pg=2

    cheers

  124. THANK YOU for such a wonderful article that corroborates what I know to be true about my own body!!!!!!! When I eat a mainstream diet high in insoluable fiber from veggies, I am MISERABLE! I wish all the nutritionists and doctors that promulgate the silly fiber, vegetable, and whole grain quotas like there exists a one-size-fits-all approach could experience the ill-effects that I do for a week! I am seriously mad at these arrogant professionals who wreak havoc on the digestive systems of millions of people from their poor and ill-conceived advice.

    Soluable fiber is a godsend for me, but it is easily overpowered by consumption of too much of its evil cousin, insoluable fiber. The one food I have found most helpful is oats. I mix them in kefir and let it set for about 15 minutes to soften. This is my daily breakfast. Still, if I consume a big salad two days in a row, or lots of fruits or vegetables (other than roots), the soluable fiber benefits are quickly cancelled out. How anyone can eat the commonly recommended diet of fiber is beyond me. Until you have experienced the torturous effects of too much fiber, don’t put forth a solution to others that says, “Eat more fiber!”

    • Lucy – what else do you eat in a day?
      I am plants/only vegan most days, rarely do i throw in meats. I also notice the more paleo fats the less I go?
      My gas smells bc BMs are not complete. I read that insoluable fiber is what makes it move thru intestines, , so you must be getting some?
      When I eat oats I don’t go – I wonder if it has to do with the rest of my diet high in nonsweet and sweet fruits. I juice veggies but yes when I eat steamed or raw brocoli for example no BMs 4 me. Yet I rarely eat meat – so I had to ask what else you are eating.
      I would also love to know if meats actually help one go number 2?

  125. Honestly I have no idea how vegetables could ever cause any bowel problems. The only time I’ve ever had any bowel problems was when I ate processed foods and meat and refined sugar. As soon as I cut those out I stopped being constipated and cramping, and that was a long time ago.
    I eat raw salads everyday and I make them with raw kale and chard. I can even eat raw vegetables on an empty stomach and never have problems. And when I steam purple kale I will eat the woody stalks… Still no problems. I swear I’m like a horse or a cow. I don’t think everyone is designed to eat exactly the same things just because we’re the same species. Herbivore w/ eggs and dairy seems to work for me.
    I don’t gain weight from carbs anymore then I would from fat, my whole family is thin regardless, my sister was even a runway model back in the day.
    Colon cancer runs in my family and my mom had IBS. She had alot of the same symptoms that I had before I switched to a vegetarian diet without processed crap. But she hates vegetables and barely eats any. She also cannot absorb vitamin b12. Then they found a large polyp on her colon. The only reason why she doesn’t have those symptoms now is because they took out half of her colon.
    Now my nephew has had constipation problems as soon as he was old enough to start eating food. They have to feed him prunes just to get him to go to the bathroom. And there seems to be a connection to feeding him meat and his constipation. It’s just something that runs on my moms side of the family. Oddly my niece has no problems at all and can eat anything.

  126. I love vegetables but do sometimes find that I have stomach discomfort. I’m going to pay extra-close attention to the veggies I eat those days and see if any of them are to blame (I have a sneaking suspicion that it’s been when I’ve made cabbage for dinner). I like the idea of mixing the harder-to-digest vegetables with easier-to-digest foods like simple grains and some proteins. I’m definitely going to try that out! I also find that adding digestive-friendly spices like ginger and fenugreek helps a lot.

  127. I have Celiac Disease and even though I was strictly gluten-free I kept getting severe bloating at times and my doctor finally told me that people with gluten intolerance can’t digest things as well even if they are gluten free. So things that most people think are “healthy” like hearty whole grains, flax seeds, and raw vegetables, make me very sick! Now I feel so much better. I usually eat well cooked vegetables and more simple grains like white rice and potatoes and just small amounts of salad or even small amounts of some cooked vegetables like broccoli and kale. If anyone reading this is gluten intolerant, please try this!!!! It is a lifesaver!!!!

  128. i started eating raw veg and fruit , not for any specific reason , and low and behold i soon realized that the chronic stomach acid i suffered with for years stopped , even the anti acids i git from my doc didn’t stop the acid reflux

    not everything affects everybody the same , it’s trial and error , it’s not a given

  129. Hi Chris
    Thanks for the article!
    It explains a lot. My 3 and a half year old son suffers from a constant belly pain, loose stools (at first, than it turns into loosish and sticky/stinky and lasts for weeks) and occasional heartburn. To my surprise I started to realize that it happens mostly after veggies and fruits! But not always and not all of them. Your article explains and shows the difference. I’ll try to avoid certain high in insoluble fiber ones and see how it goes. It’s all really difficult because once the reaction occurs it sometimes takes weeks to calm down his tummy. Last time it was runner beans – I know for sure.
    I was just wondering, do you think if juicing those vegetables would help, as it supposedly decreases the amount of fiber.
    One comment for EVERYBODY: do not trust everything you hear and read. What is good for one person is bad for another. I have learnt a lot from a book of dr Keith Scott- Mumby (won’t give the title as I am not advertising anything, just google it if interested). His book has changed the way I look at food and myself. Just check what is good for you, regardless of the guidelines and diet gurus. Listen to YOUR body.
    Good luck everyone!

  130. I’ve had trouble for years, and this is the first time I’ve seen someone come up with information that was pretty close to what I experienced, so thank you for that!

    I have learned through trial and error that if I try to avoid the “plant” portion of plants, I’m better off. If it’s a “root” or a “fruit” then, I’m usually okay. I realized I had a problem with lettuce 15 years ago, and then over time have added vegetables as I had reactions to them – first realizing I had a problem with other leafy vegetables like spinach, and then adding other vegetables that weren’t leafy, but were still “plants” like asparagus, broccoli, cauliflower. So far, “legumes” seem to be okay for me, as well as corn, (despite being on your list, but I will probably try to pay closer attention.

    My reactions usually include the usual stomach pain, gas, etc, but I’ve found that sometimes I’ll also get tired and sort of confused and may get headaches too. And, other than avoiding “plants” I have not found other solutions to work (buying organic, cooking before eating, etc)

    I do have a few questions –
    Do you know if there is any type of medicine that can be taken to make it possible to eat these foods (e.g. beano, lactaid)?
    And, do you know of any groups for people with this problem? (The gluten-free thing has really taken off, but I don’t seem to have problems with gluten). Most of my doctors haven’t heard of this – it would be nice if there was some sort of group/knowledge base.

    Thanks again for saying it’s okay not to eat vegetables. It is nice to hear.

  131. I do not eat green, leafy vegetables and I have not dropped dead. When I eat the paleo way, all my digestive issues go away. when I eat a salad, my gut goes into a tail spin.
    p.s.. ‘First of all, I’m not suggesting that you don’t eat these foods at all if you have digestive problems.
    My question is, ‘why not?’ If peopel suffer from eating a certain thing, I would think that logically, telling them not to eat it, instead of say it’s ok to eat it in reduced amounts, would be a good thing to do. Why are doctor’s and nutritonists so afraid to tell people not to eat vegetables? Especially when meat, and organ meat, are so very healthy for people?

  132. Hi everyone. Have you tried boiling your vegetables? Eastern cultures have boiled vegetables, and eaten only white grains for a very long time because they are simply easier to digest. Do not take my word for it, be aware of your body while eating and see for yourself.

    • Frank – so cool you just mentioned this. My husband recently asked me to do this for the whole fam. After we talked with a family that owns a Chinese restaurant. They are from Japan and said very very few people eat meat, but normal meals are rice porridge for BK, rice and veg soup for dinner or just steamed rice, dinner is rice with vegetables. Only the wealthy have meats with the dinner and its only on occasion. Veg. Is sways cooked there. I wonder how ill do bc raw veg. Is what helped me poop, cooked veg left me with no stools for days and rarely there after. Any suggestions??

        • Simple preparation of vegetables like boiling potatoes, cauliflower…Soups with more vegetable variety vegetarian with sour cream added to a plate or meat based. Also depends on time of the year and climate. I am from former Soviet Union and we had such a big diversity in climates and traditions…where I am from, central western area, were fewer vegetables. Meat or chicken or fish…Simple pasta with butter and cheese, buckwheat, oatmeal some rice?.. Cultural food choices also depends on economical and agricultural availability.
          …there were grains when I was born, real whole grains , my understanding of it now, that my mom had to soak and then cook for a very long time and then get through the sieve for us, kids.
          Also when rolled oatmeal became available it was used by cooking it without soaking….
          Bread was white and so called grey or black… Less or no grain fiber is easier to digest…so the entire soaking and long time cooking of whole grains was meant to achieve the same purpose, refining them. It is up to everyone culture, mood, stress level and tradition…alas, we are trying to eat as it was so called but life is different now and for whatever reason it is not talked about? Traditions to me are very important. As the culture of food was developed for centuries…when one can not eat potatoes by itself, probably stew with potatoes and pickles or soured cabbage in winter or new potatoes with butter, dill and, perhaps some kefir in summer are perfectly working… But stress type, food availability, life we have now is quite different so we only could adjust and try our best. With no dogma. And, by the way real fermented no yeast 100% rye bread though sounds like a perfect bread may not be a good bread for a person with gastritis and other digestive problems…more refined is much calmer…not super fresh from the oven, but fresh enough. Yes, dietary intervention is a must for all digestive disorders but going for a couple of years on quite limited protocol may not be a great idea…few months, perhaps, pending and certainly with a good doctor who will supervise a progress, not blindly putting on any protocol. As often, medical intervention with diet might be needed. And supplementation also must be taken under supervision…alas, very few doctors who do it…. And there are plenty of digestive disorders that might need to have variations of dietary changes for a grown up.
          Just my thoughts…

  133. Indeed!!! Coffee one of the main common foods to avoid since caffeine has a tendency to be dehydrating and can thus highly increase the risk of constipation. Also, coffee, chocolate and black tea should be avoided. Excess cups of coffee can lead to a condition known as caffeinism that includes restlessness, insomnia, increased urination and depression. Caffeine consumption can also raise intraocular pressure.

  134. I completely agree with your verdict on too many veggies causing abdominal distress: whenever I eat them I’m woken early in the morning by huge bubbles of gas moving painfully up the right side of my abdomen and back down the left. They are visible as lumps pressing against the skin.

    Unfortunately, my SO is strictly vegetarian so I can’t eat meat if we’re going to eat together. Any suggestions for vegetarian meals that would be suitable for someone with IBS-D who struggles to digest dairy, vegetables, nuts and beans?

    • I’m vegan myself. I eat fruits. Lots of fruit. Any type /all types but mangoes, all kindsorite.For vegetables I eat tomatoes, cucumbers, zucchini, carrots, and summer squash, and any type of lettuce. I avoid all the tough time digest vegetables lusted above. As a backup plan for when I don’t have enough ripe fruit I’ll have sweet potatoes on hand to boil

  135. I might try this. Unfortunately I was using bell peppers a lot for vitamin C. By the way insoluble fiber doesn’t do much to slow digestion. That’s why the glycemic index of whole wheat flour products is so high, although few people realize it.

  136. I can’t digest fiber at all, total c. I don’t eat grains (or starch for that matter) or dairy, nuts only occasionally and they are always soaked and dehydrated, small amounts of protein and a handful of veggies with some healthy fats. I NEVER eat what one would consider a meal, too much food and too many types of food. Fruits cause gas for sure. I agree with Rosalinda but would still nix the dairy. I am keto by default, LOL. Carbs are always trouble for me. I just keep it simple and pretty much eat the same foods day in and day out, boring but I’d rather feel better. HCL has really helped me too.Trust me, I love my veggies but my stomach does not. I still eat them with every meal, just not alot of them.

  137. Hi Rosalinda,

    You may want to eliminate fruits, nuts, dairy, grains if you do eat it. Try with simple meat/poultry/fish/eggs/vegetables strting with soupy/stew like. Start with small portions but often. See how you feel. You may want to eat less liquid but still soup like. you could play and have less veggies with meat, etc. try veggie juice slowly in the morning.

    Then add dairy , better homemade.

    you should feel the difference. The problem that could stay is bm-c. But in about two weeks you should have a better picture what could give you symptoms of bloating. Untill you eliminate fruits, nits, etc you you will never tell what is that…

  138. I am so glad that I found this article. I’ve been sitting here just reading everyone’s post and I have so much in common. I really hope someone can help me. I am bloated and have gas like everyday. I workout and eat a clean organic diet. I’m trying to get a flat belly but I feel like I can’t because I’m always bloated. My stomach just never looks regular and I hate it. I also don’t have regular bowel movements. Sometimes it’s diarrhea and sometimes super hard to pass, all I want is logs :/ anyways, seems like I get bloated with fruits, veggies, dairy, even dairy free milk? Junk food and even gluten free foods. I get diarrhea with coffee and bloated with green tea. I’m kinda shocked the fact that some of you don’t have fruit or veggies considering we’ve been told to have fruits, veggies, dairy and wheat to be healthy. It’s funny because it seems like I started getting really bloated after I changed my diet. When I started eating different types of organic fruits and different veggies. I used to never eat this stuff until after I had my daughter. Oh yeah I also tried a keto diet but seems I don’t do we’ll with a high fat diet. I also get bloated with fiber as in like psyllium husk and organic triple fiber. Last time I saw GI all he said was that I have way too many symptoms and made me feel uncomfortable. Then he said I would need colonoscopy to see what’s going on and my regular dr. Says just to drink more water and eat more fiber. Which I do and doesn’t work. Someone please help, as least on how to get started. Or a meal plan to determine what affects me. Thanks

  139. I feel like everyone’s digestive track is like a thumbprint. I wish u could plug in your problems and there be a cure for everyone struggling with tummy issues but I think yr digestive track is as original as yr very own identity. Nobody has the same. I started keeping somewhat of a food journal and found that there was something similiar in some of the foods i ate… and that was soluable fiber. Researching more about the different types of fiber, i found that eating foods that were high in insoluable fiber was 10 times more settling. Even when it came down to protein meal replacement shakes that stated “soluable” fiber made my stomach have that same feeling. Like it got stuck and didnt want to process thru. What’s funny is I haven’t always felt this way after I ate these foods. A few years ago I noticed this change. Foods such as oatmeal, (which I loved to eat in the mornings and everyone says its the thing to eat when trying to stay fit) and apples. I found that soluable fiber made me sooo bloated and constipated. Felt unsettling and almost like it got stuck in the upper abdominal area. Feels like my stomach wants to growl like I’m hungry when I just ate less than an hour ago. I researched that soluable foods expand and add “bulk” to the stool. For people who struggle with constipation, would u recommend staying away from these foods? Are there other foods I can replace with the same nutritional value? I would appreciate any advice u may have!

  140. Hi Chris, thanks for the info. You recommend Full monthly Hormone Profile to figure out female hormonal issues. Do you have any places online that you can recommend that sell this kind of test?

    Also, do you mean that testing has to be done every day of the month to be comprehensive?

    thanks.

  141. 2 questions:
    1: Is it consistent with the GAPS/paleo diet to take psyllium veg caps before every meal? They bulk up my stool and seem to make me poop easily and less frequently, but I have no idea whether they cause irritation or inflammation.
    2: For years I have been intolerant of nuts and nut butters and have been using sunflower seed butter instead. Can I continue to use it? Should I really try to reintroduce nuts?
    Many thanks

  142. Liz, same here about the coconut oil and high proteins. I have found raw paleo the best. I was vegan for decades and was more constipated as a vegan than when I ate meat. Having meat raw or seared is the way to go. One more thing, I no longer believe pooping a lot is healthy. It’s a matter of using the bathroom with ease. Anyone with IBS or other digestive issues can concur, it’s much nicer to be In there less and with less time needed. Your bottom will thank you, it gets tired too 🙂

  143. Liz, same here about the coconut oil and high proteins. I have found raw paleo the best. I was vegan for decades and was more constipated as a vegan than when I ate meat. Having meat raw or seared is the way to go. One more thing I no longer believe pooping a lot is healthy. It’s a matter of using the bathroom with ease. Anyone with IBS or other digestive issues can concur, it’s much nicer to be In there less and with less time needed. Your bottom will thank you, it gets tired too 🙂

    • I tried having less meat, I still can’t go to the loo 🙁 I think I have to clear out “the way” XD before testing out dietary changes. I was very angry at my constipation when I wrote that post! XD And I didnt mention when I said plant based I meant fruit based.

      Its interesting he says veggies could be troublesome. I WAS eating lots of veggies along with the meats. Maybe I should give a shot to his reccomendations. Its not like I have that many options anymore. I had to take laxatives, hope they work.

      All the conflicting advice angers me. Kresser says veggies are the problem, other’s say its not enough fiber, other say its the meat thats constipating, and oh no its the processed food, or eating wheat, or whatever. I’m just confused and stuck with my annoying problem 🙁

      • Liz,

        It is unfortunate, but quite normal to get through all that confusion and frustration. May be it is the best to stick to one program and give it some time and be patient…I know …but patience is very much needed here.
        you may try more cooked veggies, less muscle meat more gelatinous meat instead if you think meat makes you c. (like oxtail, parts of shoulder meat close to the bone, trotters, stew or boiling is easier to digest then grilling or similar, try if you can cooked beet salad, or just cooked beets with garlic, olive oil and some dill to garnish. go slow on beets if you are not used to them…
        veggies like anything else COULD be the problem for some, but not a problem for others.

        • Thanks for the input. I generally just pan grill my meat a few minutes. Ill try doing a simple stew with it, and cooking my veggies, I most always have them raw and crunchy, or lightly pan stirred. My mentality has been MORE FIBER. MORE FIBER. But it hasnt worked :S Gotta try something different/

  144. This is a strange article. As far as Im concerned, people have MORE bowel movements AKA went MORE to the bathroom, passed the poop EASIER, and had better formed poop the more their diet resembled a “healthy” Vegan diet in the diet spectrum. I know for a fact, meat constipates me, as well as processed foods like donuts, cookies and crakers. I also HATE most beans. When I change my diet to a Plant based diet, low meat consumption, I go to the loo almost daily. DAILY. Im so bloated right now >:0 I’ve been eating a lot of meat and some veggies, as well as almond toasts, Im absolutely constipated. I take probiotics too, and ginger tea. I also was trying to do higher fat, and that went HORRIBLE. Coconut oil makes me feel like I was hit by a truck, butter to a lesser extent. High fat foods give me extreme fatigue, sluggishness and listlessness. Im experimenting shunning most meats and fats for a month. I need to go to the bathroom. Maybe ill have wild Tuna every two weeks.

  145. @Alicia: I am not sure your post is addressed to me, but if it is, I just want to say that I did not mean to imply anything about Chris Kresser. I just told what occured to a friend of mine, and my opinion. Thank you .

  146. Medical Doctors (MDs) have only one day of training in nutrition despite the many years of schooling they are required to take. One day! They do not learn how food affects health and this shows in their practice of medicine when they prescribe pills to put a band aide or merely just treat the symptoms of a greater disease. I have worked in the medical field and what I am writing here is fact.

    Chris Kresser did not just learn about nutrition on the web, he has a degree and so does Robb Wolf and the people that write on his blog. There is good info out there, you just need to find the right person for you. A naturopathic doctor has years of training in nutrition and more education in all areas of medicine than a MD has. I highly recommend seeing one as they look to treat the disease through nutrition or other pathways to bring the person back to whole health, not just slap a band aide on you.

    • Yes, I have more formal, post-graduate level training in nutrition than most MDs have (which is next to nothing, as they will tell you if you ask). But there’s a more important point: the “training” MDs receive in nutrition is based on outdated science from 30-40 years ago. That’s the biggest problem.

  147. What’s more important: thyroid functioning or stomach/gut functioning? I have hypothyroidism. I used to be a vegetarian. Last December / January, I went paleo. I was also told about klebsiella bacteria in a stomach analysis. I have problems with SIBO/fodmaps too. Since going low carb, my stomach has been much better. The only problem it seems is that I have less energy and can’t work out (e.g., run, CrossFit) without the carbs I cut out. So, do you think it is more important to eat enough carbs to treat hypothyroidism, and have a lot of accompanying digestive issues, or eat fewer carbs but just not be able to work out as much? I’d love to hear your thoughts as I’m nearing my wit’s end with this conundrum!

  148. Hi Chris. I emailed you a year and a half ago with concern for chronic (slow GI motility) issues. I hate to call it constipation because I never had “trouble” going but I just didn’t go very often… every 3 to 4 days on average. (hypothyroid-on synthroid for 15 years now) I tried soooo many different things over this year and a half. Well I am finally happy to report that I have found something that causes me to have a BM every 24-36 hours, at least for the last 10 -12 days!! but I know this does not address the core issue as it is the osmotic process that is probably keeping things moving. The regimin that works for me is Pure encasulations Magnesium citrate 450mg am/ 300mg pm, magnesium glycinate 120mg am/240mg pm. buffered ascorbic acid 960mgam/960mgpm and I add around 1/4 tsp redmont sea salt to the water I take with my supplements + a second glass of water. I am going to play with these doses to see where the minimum is that still keeps me going, but was wondering if you see anything glaringly wrong with this regimin or if you would have suggestions on how to play with the doses… lower the mag??, up the VIT C, eliminate the sodium?? ? I have access to blood pressure reading at work and mine have remained fine 95-110/60-80 on average. I know optimally the best road to take is to continue to search for what causes this slow GI motility although hypothyroid is my bet, but otherwise is it better to have BM’s more frequently with osmotic assistance, or lay off the higher vitc/mag/salt doses and go back to every 3 – 4 days avg?? Any input would be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Shelley

  149. Chris, I am beginning to correlate fruit and raw salads with a marked increase in belching and trapped wind/indigestion. When I eat cooked vegetables or skip morning fruit, my GERD symptoms are almost non-existent.

    Would it make a difference if I take my fruits and raw vegetables in juice format? Will that be any easier to digest?

  150. Funny thing is: I used to have no digestion problems at all, every morning after getting up I had motion (sorry, hope it is the right word, I’m no native speaker). Ever since I started Paleo diet, I found that my skin got a lot better, but suffer heavy gut cramps and not really good consistency of stool (plus frequency is totally confused). Do you have any idea? I used to eat all these vegetables for years without any problems, but now that I eat less vegetables, no legumes and no grains, but more protein and fat, my guts are rioting …

    • My guess is you have low stomach acid, which is impairing your digestion of protein and fat. I’ll be writing an entire series on these issues starting on Friday, along with proposed solutions. Stay tuned.

  151. It would make sense that juicing insoluble fibrous fruits and veggies instead of eating them in solid form would be easier on my stomach. Is that true?

  152. Chris – I’ve tried almost everything on your site for IBS and it’s been a great help! However, I still have some gut-brain axis issues to work out because my symptoms only seem to occur now in times of stress. My doctor prescribed Robinul (Glycopyrrolate) for these flare ups. Do you have any insight into this drug?

  153. Hello,

    I’m looking for a reliable list of veggies that are both low FODMAP and soluble fiber. I figured you would be my best chance!

    Thanks

  154. I have been having less energy and explosive #2’s recently. And I rarely have gut issues at all when eating paleo.
    This article is exactly what I’ve figured out over the last few weeks, when I realized that an excess of veggies are my problem. I’ve had it in my mind over the last year of living paleo that paleo= a 1:1 ratio of animal products to veggies/fruits. So I thought that I got protein and good fats from animal products and micronutrients from plant sources. Trying to figure out what my problem was and why eating veggies have become more of a chore, I remembered something Rob Wolf said once about how you can essentially live with less veggies and eat more of the animal to get all the nutrients you need. And I learned just how nutrient dense organ meats, and meats are compared to plant sources.
    So, I’m setting about to lessen, and of course not eliminate, plant matter and to eat more parts of animals. So far, I’ve cooked up some beef necks and saved the bone broth. Then cooked 2 lbs of grass-fed ground beef with chicken livers and garlic.

  155. If anyone wants to chime in on this questions great.. Would fermentation have an affect on some of the insoluble fiber foods (like cabbage in sauer kraut)?

  156. This 1 hour BBC documentary is entitled “Did Cooking Make Us Human?”, and while there is some anthropology in it, there is an awful lot of documentation of research and tests conducted that show how our systems are adapted to process cooked food vs. raw.

    • I would have loved to see this documentary, but it’s no longer available on youtube. I, like many reading this blog, am tired of trying to find out what foods are causing me so much gastric distress…feeling like you’re pregnant during the day and not fitting in your clothes and waking up with a flat stomach again, day in day out. I have now realized I am eating TOO many supposedly good for you vegetables. To top it off, I always preferred and enjoyed them RAW. So, I am trying FODMAP as well as cooking the soluble veggies to see how much difference this can make in giving me a normal life.

  157. I certainly have less digestive trouble if I eat less veggies, and they must be cooked. Oh, how many hours I lost to discomfort because I made smoothies with raw vegetables. I finally figured out the problem just a few weeks ago – gotta cook them.

    • I too have this issue with vegetables. I haven’t eaten any raw veggies for a few weeks now and have seen an improvement with my cystic acne also! Cooked seems fine. Just an FYI for anyone who may be struggling with cystic acne and can’t figure out what’s causing it.

  158. I’m so tired of looking for answers. My health has become an obsession; I have a great naturopathic doc finally, but in the back of my head, I’m always wondering if there’s something else I should be doing. I’m just so sick of dealing with numerous issues that seem to be cyclical in nature, and now, being incredibly restrictive in what I can/cannot eat. It’s insane.

  159. You know…be it primal, paleo or whatever Way of Eating you follow…this stuff can get seriously confusing after a while.

    I just found out I have multiple food allergies: highly allergic to eggs, moderately so to dairy and gluten. But also allergic to many veggies and numerous spices I love.

    But I also don’t have a gallbladder, so I *can’t* up my fat too much, otherwise, well…I’ll be spending more time on the toilet than I care to.

    So, I shouldn’t eat too many veggies high in insoluble fiber, but eating starchy veg tends to make me sleepy. What now?

    • I know the feeling! I have a gallbladder, but I did find out that it was quite slow. Then again, in order to test how quickly it processed fats, they did ask me to eat a Mars bar (which I hadn’t eaten in four years because it made me feel horrid afterwards!). Now I’m not sure if I process all fats slowly, or just chocolate off a factory line…

      Feels a bit like limbo, doesn’t it?

      Hope you find some answers soon.

    • I don’t like to say it, but since changing my eating habits, to a primal lifestyle my body has “become” so sensitive to so many food products, even real, natural foods. Grains and everything gluten gets my stomach incredibly bloated, I could eat whole eggs, but after some time i can only eat the yolks> The whites after a while have begun to give me son constraint? on my throat. Sometimes i can eat yogurt, other i get pains, as well as some probiotics that i bought. I went on a FODMAP diet to see if I see improvement in my bowel movements, severely cut my veggies intake, which then made me switch to starchy veggies, but recently they have started to give me bad lower abdominal pain. I thought then that it wan because of the fiber, so now i trying to limit that too. Not a lot of options left, (nuts are also a problem). I’m restricted then to eating mostly meats, lettuce and few low fiber fruits, oh and yolks… I’d go crazy if I stop and thibk that pretty much all of my meat intake comes from the cafeteria in my University (low quality I safely presume) or grain fed from the comercial supermarkets. To top it all of, I still can’t see bm without laxatives… Le sigh

      • It is unfortunately very “normal” – to be sensitive to the food one was ok before…it should sorted out but it will take time, try to start very simple and add one food at a time back…A long process.
        Try not to use laxatives, if you could.
        It is the best to follow a program as it is very difficult to figure out what is the cause. just because digestion is compromised…
        And yes, fungus/yeast can be quite troublesome to deal with – just due to our toxicity – they are always there …

        • Thank you, its rather difficult when your practically poking blindly when you’re on your own following one of these programs. At least it sometimes feels that way, because there are so many factors that can have a different effect on our digestion.

          • It is very very true. I would love to be guided all those almost three years. And it is good to have someone you can talk to and ask questions… It would be good if that person is a doctor. Not always MD but someone who could prescribe medicine as well not only alternatives and supplements.
            I was and am lucky at least to get some help in critical situation during detox/die-offs.
            One think to keep in mind, though, unfortunately no one will be able to tell you what to eat at “that” particular stage of your health. You can try guidance by GAPS or SCD still you may find that not all the food you will be able to introduce initially and not always in the order it was suggested. There are variations and there is no I think straight answer for that.
            But if you could find someone who can help you a bit with diet (and emotionally too because it is not an easy process unless you could help yourself on that), that should help you quite a bit. Just keep in mind: your state of gut health, your stress level, your individual intolerance and the season… In time you find some answers for you from yourself but it will take some time. May be try with watery vegetables cooked well in broth, organ meats and muscle meat of any animal that you tolerate, eggs if you can, especially yolks at the beginning, perhaps avocado. I also found that well cooked carrots in chicken broth helped a lot initially though carrots are not that watery. Chicken broth is quite soothing for the gut. And you do not need to cook it for many hours. A couple will work fine…

  160. Hi Chris,
    I’m trying Paleo and finding it helps my stomach condition (a motility problem causing frequent regurgitation – never sick – and a prepandrial bradygastria which means that I have to eat every three hours. Not quite fitting with Paleo, I know). The thing is, I also have hypermobility in the shoulders and ankles and I don’t want to worsen this condition. I’ve read somewhere that higher fat content from the meats isn’t helpful with this condition. Is this true? So less veggies for the stomach…but less meat for the hypermobility? Now I’m confused.

    Extra info: I also have hypothyroidism (just come out of a slightly overdosed phrase on the meds) and PCOS. I have been excluding modern foods from my diet since I was 15 (I’m 21). All that was left to exclude was wheat free cereals and gluten free products, and maybe dairy.

    Hoping for some advice. Thanks!

  161. Hi Chris,

    Thanks for this article, love your work. I was wondering your thought on the work of Dr Leo Galland and the effects of different fiber on intestinal permeabilty. He found that insoluable fiber reduces intestinal permeabilty and soluable tends to increase it? Your thoughts would be great.

    Cheers Karl.

  162. Hmmm… I have been following a paleo/primal diet for about a year. I purchased the recently published book “It Starts With Food”, and decided to do a ‘Whole30″, which vastly increased my vegetable and fruit intake (although I limited fruit to 1 or 2 servings per day).

    While I did not get bloating or discomfort, I noticed an immediate change in frequency and texture of my stools… I was constantly in the bathroom, it seemed. I went from 1 (maybe 2) well formed BM’s per day to 4 or 5 loose-ish BM’s per day. I have never been diagnosed with IBS or Crohn’s, but I am really questioning whether I may be intolerant of the FODMAP foods. Turns out those are the veggies that I was consuming most of…

    Thanks for the great and timely post!!

    • Check out the Bristol stool chart. I was surprised to find out that well formed stool is not healthy and that is what I have been trying to acheive my whole life. As it turns out, I do have the healthiest type listed here.

      http://www.gutsense.org/constipation/normal_stools.html

      Here is what it says about formed stools, the chart has pictures so you can properly diagnose.

      Type 2: Sausage-like but lumpy

      “Represents a combination of Type 1 stools impacted into a single mass and lumped together by fiber components and some bacteria. Typical for organic constipation. The diameter is 3 to 4 cm (1.2–1.6”). This type is the most destructive by far because its size is near or exceeds the maximum opening of the anal canal‘s aperture (3.5 cm). It‘s bound to cause extreme straining during elimination, and most likely to cause anal canal laceration, hemorrhoidal prolapse, or diverticulosis. To attain this form, the stools must be in the colon for at least several weeks instead of the normal 72 hours. Anorectal pain, hemorrhoidal disease, anal fissures, withholding or delaying of defecation, and a history of chronic constipation are the most likely causes. Minor flatulence is probable. A person experiencing these stools is most likely to suffer from irritable bowel syndrome because of continuous pressure of large stools on the intestinal walls. The possibility of obstruction of the small intestine is high, because the large intestine is filled to capacity with stools. Adding supplemental fiber to expel these stools is dangerous, because the expanded fiber has no place to go, and may cause hernia, obstruction, or perforation of the small and large intestine alike.”

        • Yes, gutsense has own interpretation and i understand where it could come from as I went through some of those “right” stool stages – beeing for a long time on GAPS diest. I do not think it is healthy stool (for me for sure) so I will not agree with gutsense on that one. Number 4 is the way to go!!! 🙂 If we all lucky enough.
          I also do not think that beeing hooked on all supplements that gutsense offers is any better then trying vegetables – with skin. withoout skin – whatever works. But gutsense has good info (for me it has to be filtered out). And his two books one in English and one in Russian is also helpful. But nonetheless all that, alas, info needs to be filtered (again) and adjusted.
          As I understand not much data is available on diet Pe Se and gut it is all almost near to be experimental. We know there are some symptomatic similarities we know going though GAPS or similar protocol that it will create die-off or healing crisis or worsening of your symptoms or flare-ups or food sensetivities. Do we know for sure what it is really?

          Marina

  163. Thank you for this article, I discovered FODMAPS through my own research and doing the GAPS diet. I have been eating a low FODMAP diet for about 4 months now and it is the first time that my gut has felt good! Keep up the good work, love your blog!

  164. I’m curious what you recommend for someone following restrictive type diets, such as FODMAP, for extended periods of time (while trying to heal gut issues), for a “treat”? It really wears on the psyche of a foodie when constantly saying “no” to so many foods. 🙂

    • My sweet treat is a home-flavored yogurt:
      .1 C full-fat yogurt
      .1/4-1/2 t cinnamon
      .1/4 t cocoa powder
      .1/2 T beef gelatin
      .1/4 t orange extract
      .1/4 t vanilla extract
      .sweetener, e.g., stevia, erythritol, splenda, to taste

      Mix the yogurt and dry ingredients well. Then add the liquid ingredients and mix well again. Let stand 5 minutes.

      The other part of the solution is to mentally re-frame your decisions from saying “no” to foods to saying, “no, I need to stay healthy/nurture my body/etc” to yourself when you turn down food.

      • Erythritol is a high FODMAP, it is a Polyol which is the P in FODMAP, so it is best to avoid if you are following this diet. Plus it is a poison to animals, I don’t care that the government thinks it is fine for humans. If it will poison an animal, I’m not eating it!

        • Hi Alicia,

          You’re right. I was riffing on the sweetener. Not being sensitive to specific FODMAP foods myself, I didn’t think about this issue. FODMAP-sensitive people should use whatever sweetener they can tolerate.

  165. If only you had posted this a week earlier! I just got back from a week long vacation with a family of vegetarians. We traded off cooking nights, but all of the meals had to be meatless. After four days of a drastic change in my diet, my stomach rebelled. I tried to eat as much meat as possible for my lunches, but the amount of vegetables wreaked havoc on my digestive system. Thanks for posting this article; it’s nice to know why I was having such a bad reaction to the food and I’ll know what to avoid next time.

    • I have a hunch that it was the sudden change in fiber levels, rather than the absolute amount of fiber you ate, that caused your havoc. If you look around the web, the common advice is to slowly increase the amount of fiber you eat when you start to eat more of it.

  166. I find the only FODMAP that bothers me is broccoli. It just kills me. Cauliflower, brussels sprouts – no problem in amounts up to 3 oz. But the slightest bite of broccoli will make me literally scream in pain.

    Why? What’s the issue with broccoli specifically? Can’t figure it out.

  167. I have been experimenting by steaming cauliflower and spinach-well done. Then blending them in my Vitamix and eating them like mashed potatoes. I seem to do a lot better with the veggies cooked and blended. I use raw ghee or coconut oil and some sea salt. Sometimes I will sprinkle gelatin on it for added protein if I don’t have any meat handy. Is this an ok thing to do? Wish I knew for sure what my triggers are?? Salads are not good. Neither is popcorn.

    • I eat about 2 T of powdered gelatin/day to relieve knee aches and to strengthen my nails. Gelatin is a component of both cartilage and keratin, so the fact that it helps both problems isn’t surprising. Since these effects are pronounced and specific to certain areas of my body, my hunch is that this protein isn’t being used for much else. Since this amount of gelatin adds 12g of protein, I subtract that amount from my daily totals when I troubleshoot my diet.

  168. Chris,
    Love this article! My business partner and I have been following this concept for a while now, as we are learning so much more about nutrition than we thought we knew! I can honestly say that limiting my veggies has SIGNIFICANTLY helped my digestive problems. For the past year I struggled with off-and-on constipation and just feeling plain horrible. Since following your blog, along with the blog by Ray Peat, being certified in Z-Health Performance Systems and their nutritional advice, everything feels better! I specifically recall about 3 weeks ago when I decided to eat some broccoli, just because, and I was a mess the next day. Gassy, bloated, sluggish, and kicking myself for even considering it. Thank you for the great article Chris. We are in Berkeley and would love to meet you sometime soon. Take care!

  169. I’m glad you said “tend to be safer” instead of “are safe” for the soluble fiber list. As someone with gut health issues (and, unfortunately, the doctor bills to prove it), I have found that starchy tubers are the fastest way to get me from feeling well to laying on the floor in pain with my gut so swollen I look 12 months pregnant. I’ve even tried fermenting the starches before cooking in an attempt to make them easier to digest – no dice. I mean it was tasty and all, but still made me swell. Anything starchy – potatoes, rice, corn, beans… it’s a miserable experience.

    I’ve discussed this with others who have similar intestinal issues and they report the same thing about starches. However, I can eat anything from the insoluble-fiber list without a problem (to be fair, I do usually cook them). Even fruit doesn’t seem to be too much of an issue for me (bananas are out, but other than that, so far so good). But give me a mouthful of white rice and I won’t be able to sit up straight for the rest of the night.

    So in my experience, more meat and less veggies does tend to keep my intestines happy. But no matter how large or small my veggie intake gets, I can’t eat starches at all.

  170. Wow! This is really interesting. For the past few months I’ve been limiting my meat intake particularly red and concentrating more on salads, vegetables & fruit. But I have noticed more bloating, stomach issues and even harder to loose weight! I will definitely be looking into fodmaps diet closer. Thank you!

  171. Hi Chris,

    great post, as usual. I have been suffering of IBL for almost 20 years with insomnia and other bad consequences. I’ve tried everything (any kind of diet, fasting, etc..). Nothing really worked.

    Recently (couple of months), I’m following a Paleo-Zone diet?

    I do apply the Zone principles (40-30-30) to the Paleo diet, in a way that I eat 40% carbs during each meal (13 blocks in 6 meals per day), using only veggies and fruits with low glycemyc index. Fats and Proteins all strict Paleo.

    What’s your opinion about it?

    Thanks,
    Gabriele

  172. I found this interesting, for many years I was a veggie but with an allergy to pulses wasn’t getting enough nutrients from my diet, I went back to including chicken and fish and my health improved enormously.

    I do have gut problems and cannot tolerate fermented foods such as saurkraut, they leave me doubled up in pain.

  173. I have been diagnosed with adrenal fatigue and also have a positive ANA test and IBS. I was told to take a natural testosterone boosting formula that contains oat straw herb powder. I am also gluten intolerant and needless to say, with my positive ANA test, I want to stay as far away from gluten as possible. Are you familiar with oat straw herb powder and whether or not it contains gluten? Do you know of any alternative natural testosterone boosters for a female diagnosed with significant adrenal fatigue? Thank you!

  174. Chris, I was hoping to get your opinion on one thing. I started looking at research on the effect of fiber on various gut problems. Many studies noted that there are differences in short-chain fatty acid content in healthy and inflamed colons. And some fibers are fermented into SCFA that have anti-inflammatory effects. Many studies noted very good effects from germinated barley foodstuff.

    I was wondering if you have any comments on that? Have you tried it with anyone? Also, do you have any idea where to get it? Could I just germinate barley seeds, dry and grind them?

    Thanks a lot for your insights!

  175. Helpful post, thanks — just a few thoughts germinated when reading this:

    * Could it be worth noting the potential downside of salt with respect to adding fermented veggies to the diet? Sauerkraut is crazy salty and it was my understanding that lots of salt can be rough on digestion.

    * I had issues with constipation for some time. After incorporating more veggies/fiber into my diet the issue only seemed to get worse; bloating and distention grew exponentially with added fiber. However, I’ve since tweaked how I consume what is roughly the same — rather large — amount of veg fiber and my constipation issue has been more or less eliminated; pun intended. I think my problem was insufficient fat intake. I begin the day with 1 tsp. ea. of cod liver oil and extra virgin olive oil before eating breakfast, which is usually some oatmeal with milled chia seed. Having a drink or two of hot cocoa powder every day seems to tip the scale to an emptier intestine and fuller toilet. I think it’s the combo of fat (from the oils) + milled chia (mucilage; even though this is very high in fibre) + cocoa powder (magnesium) seems to do the trick. I now have daily movements that are very easy to pass. Notwithstanding, I’d like some opinion on whether this is a sustainable and reasonable healthy habit?

    Incidentally, I’ve noticed that my psoriasis is less severe when I consume foods containing curry powder along with a drink of cocoa. But this doesn’t obtain when I consume only one or the other thereof. What gives?

    Still working on the psoriasis . . . any tips?

  176. This may be TMI, but I HAVE noticed that I’m way less gassy when I eat fewer vegetables. Now I don’t feel so bad about not having them every other hour of the day, the way it sometimes feels like you’re *supposed* to…

  177. Great article Chris! I found a lot of the key points of high vegetable consumption being correlated with gut irritation to match my own experience.

    I’ve been eating a strict paleo diet for a few months now, mostly on the cyclic ketogenic side, and I recently had been having extreme stomach pains after certain meals to the point I had to lay down. Naturally this left me completely dumbfounded as I do not eat any of the typical gut irritants; grains, dairy, and legumes.

    My most recent stomach flare up came when this after noon when I ate a tuna salad consisting with a lot of arugula and spinach. Within 30 minutes of eating, I could barely walk and my mental state had rapidly declined.

    Interestingly, after about two hours my symptoms; cramps and bloating start to diminish. I’ve tried to duplicate the response to figure out what was causing this response, but could never get any consistent flare ups. Now after your reading your article, I can directly correlate my recent increase in vegetable consumption, directly to when I started having these crippling stomach pains!

    Going to play around with limiting my vegetable intake for a while and then reintroduce them in mass to gauge my response. Thanks again for all the amazing work you do and providing your knowledge to the world.

  178. I’ve found it helpful to stay away from FODMAPs and the veggies high in insoluble fiber that you listed.

    Question about beta-glucuronidase: While I follow a fairly clean diet, because of ‘IBS issues’ I have to take many supplements (iron, methyl-protect, B5, iodine, NAC, probiotics, CLO). My beta-glucuronidase is extremely out of the target range. While I dread taking another supplement, I’d like your opinion, would you recommend taking Calcium-d-Glucarate to lower it? Also if one has a history of breast or colon cancer, would you recommend supplementing with it? How does beta-glucuronidase affect liver function? Any link to improving gut health if you lower it?

    • Hi Angela,
      As Chris states on his “Contact” page, he can’t give personalized advice, even about food and supplements, due to insurance liability issues. At best, he could say something like, “I had a patient with IBS issues whose beta-glucuronidase was out of range, and I told that patient…”, but even that’s a gray area.

  179. Yes, and yes.
    there are trade-offs you can do. Cutting out onions to allow occasional garlic (which you need less of).
    I like chinese preserved cabbage. This is not refrigerated (just salted) and is very mulchy and delicious as a condiment.
    Health shop sauerkraut is too hard and not really fermented. I doubt it is meant to be refrigerated so much.

  180. Perfect timing. I just got back from visiting the doctor because I’ve had strange BMs for about 2 months. I’ve been eating primally for about a year and was doing great and then all of a sudden–big change. Anyway, I’m looking forward to taking your advice, because I eat tons and tons of vegetables, especially the ones you listed as having a lot of insoluble fiber. I’ve had breast cancer and so, of course, have gone crazy on the vegetable wagon. Love your information and look forward to other people’s comments on this.

  181. This has been known in Ayurveda now for thousands of years….the “roughness” that gives digestive problems of eating certain raw fruit and vegetables is called putting ones Vata out of balance. The symptoms in this case are, but not limited to, bloating and gas. The good thing about looking at your diet and routines in terms of the Doshas of Vata, Pitta and Kapha is that these symptoms ( as in the case of this article ) are but the first stages of disease. Of course nothing is going to happen from a few episodes of gas and bloating…but over a prolonged period of time…those symptoms will develop into other symptoms if not counteracted with changes to diet or addressing other root causes of ones environment and routine that one lives. Which is why western medical science is still so much in its infancy when it normally only addresses the much later stages of diseases which because of their prolonged neglect at their recognized state are much harder to treat and deal with.

    Also for some individuals their Vata would not become out of balance given the same raw portions of fruit and veggies compared to another; some people do not experience gas or bloating. In fact some peoples constitutions that are very low in Vata but say high in Kapha…benefit from favoring such fruits and vegetables eaten raw.

    On another note some people would at one time of the year yet not at another time of the year; cooked at one, raw at another.

    Hopefully someday, people as a whole will learn to understand their bodies much better than we do; and a very strong background in science education is not required for this to be.

  182. Thank you for this. I’ve been diagnosed with gluten, lactose, and fructose intolerance and was doing fine on a very restricted GF/FODMAPS diet until last year, when I started to notice that fiber seemed to be setting me off – even in foods like spinach that I’d been eating regularly for years with no problems. Curiously, cooked carrots and pumpkin don’t seem to bother me – even though they do contain fructose and thus should be problematic due to fructose intolerance. Now I’m starting to question the FI diagnosis in the first place.

    Any chance of a high-insoluble vs. high-soluable-fiber fruits post as well??

    • Probably not… just Google “fruits insoluble fiber” and you’ll find lots of lists to work from. In general berries and then the peels/skins of fruits are high in insoluble fiber, and banana, melons, the flesh of peaches, apples & pears are higher in soluble fiber.

      • Thanks Chris. Looking at a few soluble vs. insoluble fiber in fruits lists, I’m seeing another interesting pattern: the fruits that are often cited as being tolerated in small amounts by people with fructose malabsorption are high in insoluble fiber (blueberries, strawberries) – further explaining why I can’t even eat small amounts of them. Yet I can tolerate a couple blackberries from time to time – and apparently those are high in soluble fiber. Hmmmm. I sense some experimentation in my future!

  183. Thank you for such a great article! I’ve had chronic constipation my entire life. Since switching to Primal and FODMAP I’ve seen a little bit of improvement. I’m starting to think that my problem is with fiber in general. It seems that I can only tolerate fiber in small amounts, even soluble fiber, like a few slices of fried plantain. A few weeks ago I ate a few servings of boiled yams and tannier and got a lot of pain in the lower abdomen. I’ll keep experimenting.

    • Angeline- what have you found works for you?
      Sounds simular to me. I love produce but reading this makes me think it may be the last thing the gut can handle? I hope you found out what’s safe and beneficial for the constipation.

      • Well I actually found out I had a polyp on my gallbladder. I had surgery a few weeks ago and had it out. Now the constant pain I was feeling on the left side of my torso is gone, but I have to be careful with the amount of fat (and the quality) I consume in one meal to avoid another type of discomfort/pain. Unfortunately, I havent seen improvement in bm, although everybody was telling me I was going to get the runs… I’m consuming digestive enzymes and looking for a good probiotic supplement to see wether that helps with digestion.

    • I second that. Fiber Menace put me on the right path, but i found myself dependent on the author’s Hydro-C supplement. Patsy Catsos’ IBS-Free At Last was the book that finally helped me to narrow down the biggest culprits for my gut irritation. Now I am no longer dependent on a supplement to help me go.

  184. This is interesting because I tend to have more frequent bowl movements when I eat a lot of veggies and I notice that my acne flares up also. Could the digestive issues with veggies cause acne?

    • Yes. Check out my podcast a while back on the gut-brain-skin axis. I will also be speaking on this topic at the Wise Traditions conference in November.

  185. Great read! Funny thing though I do SO much better with insoluable. I eat mostly lettuces, but not big hardy ones, they don’t work, celery, artichoke, carrot, onion and tons of steamed broccoli . I can’t digest any starch of any kind. Either it’s the stomach or I get extremely tired. I don’t know what that’s all about. I do Paleo with some Blood Type foods, the ones that actually work. I only eat a cherry or two at a time. LOL. I do about 7% carbs from above veg, 25% lean clean protein and the rest fats. I limit saturated. I eat olive oil and soaked and dehydrated nuts as well. That’s about it. Sometimes I think this is too limited to be healthy. I also agree with too much fat is hard to digest, especially saturated. I just sits there. Also, fermented veggies are a definate no go. Why would that be? It seems I am very limited in fiber. Asparagus bothers me bad along with big leafy greens. Nightshades and dairy are out as well. Good thing I love salads and protein!

  186. I’m very glad to see some numbers on what I had already suspected was true for a long, long time!

    I would love to know, though, where those numbers came from, and if you have any thoughts and/or data on whether naturally pasture-raised meats would be even more nutrient-dense than the beef shown above.

    Thanks!

  187. Hi! I’ve been on Paleo for over 3 months now and it works miracles, there’s jut one thing I had some tests done last week and my creatinine is a bit too high. I’m worried about my kidneys. Could that be too much of meat consumption?

  188. I’d like to see a comparison between the nutrients in veggies and those in a non-organ meat, since most people don’t eat organ meats on a regular basis. I have to say that I love your take on diet…no gimmicks, no rigid rules, just reason and science! I should mention that I’m probably one of the few vegetarians who are a fan of your site…I’ve been over twenty years without meat, but now have come to believe it’s an integral part of a healthy diet. I haven’t returned to eating meat, as I now have a huge psychological barrier to eating it, but that’s my personal issue–you keep on doing what you’re doing–the truth has no agenda! : )

    • In the graphic above, the micronutrient content of beef is listed, along with liver, kale and blueberries. You’ll see that red meat is higher in most micronutrients than kale and blueberries, with some exceptions.

      I eat vegetables myself and think they are a healthy and important part of the diet; my purpose here was simply to point out that certain types of veggies eaten in certain ways are more likely to cause gut issues.

      Thanks for your support! I was a vegetarian (and even macrobiotic vegan) myself for some time. I have respect for that as a choice, it just didn’t work for me and there are some serious limitations/challenges to those approaches.

      • I have read a lot of information on your site and Solving Leaky Gut’s site and still not sure how to start. I can do pretty good for two days and then I go back to what I used to do. I cannot seem to get past it. Lots of brain issues along with gut issues.

  189. Thank you! I changed to a low-FODMAP after seeing your earlier post, and it made a big difference. My gut seems to work better with *some* vegetable fiber, though, and it is harder now to find non-FODMAP, non-nightshade veggies containing the right kind of fiber. I see, though, that some of my favorite root vegetables are on the “good” list here, and I will certainly give them another try. I was already thinking of doing that, and your latest post is just what I needed.

  190. I limit the number of veggies. Have been doing this for the past year. Also no longer consuming dairy or wheat and my guy issues are resolved! I’m a much happier person!

  191. Chris,

    I want to know why we have low digestive acids as we grow older and not just in older people it seems as today there are more and more younger people with low stomach acidity.
    What is the actual cause of this funtionally? Carbs to seem to be a problem for low stomach acidity. But in the first place………..what is the actual cause?

  192. Chris:

    Just found this FODMAP list that you linked to in a prior post.

    Note the differences between it and your lists here, i.e. celery, spinach, and lettuce are on the O.K. list.

    Will you please clarify? Also, radishes and cucumbers aren’t on any list I’ve seen, so I’d like to know about them, and also, whether cucs should be peeled (I’m already seeding them).

    Thanks so much.

    Susan

  193. I’ve never much liked veggies anyway, so when I learned a few years ago (thanks to Dr. Eades’ blog post about fiber) that I don’t even really need the fiber, because it is such an effective gut irritant, I stopped worrying about not eating veggies. I can go weeks at a time without touching one, and my gut has been much happier for it. I eat a lot of grass fed beef and pastured egg yolks (not even the whites, because they are irritating). I eat starchy stuff for my carbs, mostly white rice and potatoes, and a little squash when it’s in season. I’m also lucky that I have an outstanding source of raw dairy, although I seem to tolerate all dairy pretty well.

    I do occasionally eat some fruit, mostly dates and bananas, but that is a few times a month at most.

    I worked rotating shift work for several years, and that did considerable damage to my already very finicky digestive system and underperforming metabolism (or are those one and the same?). It’s unlikely that I’ll ever be able to eat lots of fibrous anything ever again. I’m glad that I never developed a taste for veggies.

    Actually, none of the food sensitivities I’ve discovered or developed have really been bothersome to me long-term (once I discovered them and eliminated those foods) but I would just about kill to be able to eat chocolate again! Theobromine really, really does not like me. 🙁

  194. Even the oft touted fermented foods (supposedly natures magic) are not recommended because I’ve heard they are high in argenine, tyramine and histamine and may cause GI distress…see my point?

  195. Hey Chris,
    Is it possible to create food intolerances by restricting the diet to say only fats and proteins? I have heard that if you restrict your food too much you can become more intolerant of the foods you normally could eat. Is that possible? Or is it just an awareness and your senses being acutely more fine tuned to see what you were intolerant to to begin with. Also after you build your gut back up can you reincorporate more raw veggies, dairy, or even grains and legumes? Is it temporary if you have IBS or permanent? Thanks I am just worried about restricting my diet so much that I soon become intolerant to anything except meat….seems like all food is out to kill us really. Everyday there is a new “Hey don’t eat this anymore” in the blogosphere and I am kinda sick of it.

  196. Hi, great info. It is very individual, but it is the best to cook them nicely, so they soft or even very soft and take away skin if one finds it aggravates the condition. As the gut heals one may try some additions – watery raw vegetables, no skin first, cooked vegetables with some skin if desired.
    Fermented veggies due to the process are predigested so it is much easier for body to work on them and they full of enzymes…
    Yes, it is very true – we did not have Whole Foods around and somehow well survived on much fewer vegetables and, for sure there were no greens for us on the market except for early spring salad greens that were actually always very very tender. And we did not have cucumber and radish all year around, tomatoes included… The life was more “structured”, a regimen was more bold and while still stress, somehow it was different and society respected person’s needs to take care of food, life, etc beyond the office. It does not mean people would not get sick. But rest so much needed for body to heal was always taken vs. times we live now.

  197. Yes!!! So glad that word is getting out on the FODMAP diet. I was plagued with terrible bloating my whole life until I discovered this about a year ago now. I had been trying very hard to solve the bloating issue once and for all as I was at my wits end with finishing every day looking 6 months pregnant and I had noticed that certain foods very obviously caused bad bloating and gas, these being onions, apples, garlic, potatoes, peppers and ginger and looking up information on the internet about intolerance to these lead me to the Fodmap diet.
    Since then, my life has been transformed! I actually really don’t eat any fruit or vegetables anymore. I can tolerate a little green salad and the odd banana, but don’t make a point of eating them. I make sure I get all my essential nutrients from a varied healthy diet and it really is very easy to do without including the fruit and veg.
    I’ve never felt better, my skin and hair are fantastic and I’m full of energy. It is frustrating to look back and realise how brainwashed I was into think fruit and vegetables were so healthy. It just didn’t occur to me that they could be at the root of my problems. The 5/6 a day message is so deeply ingrained. THANKYOU for shining a spotlight on this issue!

    • Oh Hannah 🙂
      What do you eat for meals and snacks? I’m you, before you cut the trigger foods out, and I’ve been vegan for 20 years thinking this will help -constipation if I just get vegan down right 🙁
      If your not eating produce, is it just meats and eggs? Do you get enough food w/o produce?
      Please share….

      • I am both of you too!! bloated 24/7 until I severely restricted veggies. Something ingrained in me still tells me i need some greenery…. I just dont feel right without something green on my plate. It is important for your acid/alkali balance to include veggies to balance out all the acidic meats etc, or so i’ve heard.

        • MEEE TOOO! I am paleo(only the best foods) Blood type Diet ( foods healing or toxic for my O blood type)/ Metabolic protein type( macronutrient portions) and very low carb. This combo is my ticket to healthy bowels. The Blood type foods that I’m to avoid ALWAYS give me trouble if I try to eat them. The Protein Metabolic type says my plate should be 1/3 veggies and that always goes against the grain but always gives me troubles when I over eat them. I now eat 2 oz good protein with a handful of recommended veggies with some healthy fats 4x a day. I eat celery, carrots and onion and artichokes in small amounts on a small handful of chopped spinach or on a romaine lettuce wrap. At first this seemed like a measly amount of food but after just a few days, my entire systen thanks me. It is actually more satisfying than any larger meals. Too many veggies make me hungry and bloated which is a horrid combo to live with. IN the end, The Blood Type foods with the metabolic portions is the way to better stomach health for me.

  198. I have celiac and also cannot have dairy or soy. Six months ago, I was also diagnosed with Fructose Malabsorbtion . It’s been a tough concept to get used to, the idea of limiting my vegetables but it has actually done wonders for my digestive health. I am also very FODMAP sensitive.

  199. For me, raw nuts cause the most digestive trouble. If I soak/roast them they’re fine, but I also had my gallbladder removed a couple years ago (I wish I had known about the paleo diet when I started having trouble) so I don’t know if that factors into it. As long as I stick to low glycemic foods, meat, fish, and eggs I seem to have no significant gut pain/problems and no joint pain – which is amazing after years of feeling awful. 🙂

  200. agreed. Russian folk wisdom says no fibrous veggies if you have an upset stomach, and more well-cooked ones, preferably with broth. Thanks for the article! : )

  201. Bubbies pickles and sauerkraut are great for people who are new to fermented foods. The Bubbies brand is pretty easy to find at health stores or online.

  202. Thanks, this is good advice for those with Crohn’s disease with strictures or high inflammation that could lead to partial or even full bowel obstructions if they ate too much insoluble fiber vegetables and fruit.

    I often recommend skinning, de-seeding, well-done cooking, and/or juicing. But hadn’t known that insoluble might be easier to digest than soluble.

  203. Chris:

    This is an awesome post. Thank you. So useful.

    Here’s a coincidence – about a week ago, I just happened to switch from eating A LOT of greens to eating carrots, cucumbers, and celery – and I’ve felt so much better (not really knowing why, until now that I’ve read this post).

    As for the celery – I guess I’ll eat less. I’ve heard, though, that if you peel the stringy side (as you’d peel a carrot), it’s more digestible. Is that true?

    All along I’ve been eating radishes and ginger – because it’s my understanding that they’re good for the gut. Is that true?

    As for fruit, it would be great if you’d post the ones that are high/low in insoluble fiber.

    Thanks, Chis. Great info.

    Susan

  204. Ever since I switched to a Paleo/traditional diet, I’ve eaten fewer vegetables and can really tell which ones don’t agree with me. There are many on the first list that I can’t tolerate. Choosing seasonal veggies is good advice: besides the fact that it’s healthier and more eco-friendly, the things that you’re sensitive to become apparent.

    • Vegetables don’t have vitamin A. They have beta-carotene. Sites like Nutrition Data make the mistake of saying they’re the same thing. They’re not. Beta-carotene is the precursor to the active form of vitamin A (retinol). Only a small amount of beta-carotene gets converted into retinol in most people.

      • That is why it is a good idea to take those with animal fat: normally carrots will be eaten with sour cream in old world…or with onion cooked in chicken or duck fat…

  205. Yes, I have been doing this for awhile now. I don’t eat many veggies, finding I don’t have much appetite for them (because they aggravate my gut), but when I do they are well cooked. I still enjoy fruits but I try to limit them to in season berries and melons. Veggies that I ferment myself have been really beneficial for me.

  206. I read in another FODMAPS source that coffee has a surprising amount of insoluble fiber. At the time I learned this, I had reduced “typical” FODMAPS with no real change in my digestive discomfort. Stopping coffee, however, produced a next-day and on-going HUGE improvement. This makes me very sad, since I love(d) my coffee (like I used to love my wheat!), but having a happy tummy is worth it!

    • Have you tried Teechino coffee replacement? Not sure though if your gut would still be happy as it does contain chicory, but maybe worth a try if you really miss coffee.

      • I tried to come off coffee several times…love my coffee so hard to give up. The alternatives with chicory really tore my system up.

    • Coffee has a lot of fiber – if you eat it. I can’t see how filtered coffee would have a significant amount of fiber. However, coffee has several other compounds (like tannins) that can irritate the gut.

      • I tried cutting out coffee a few months ago. I did it mainly as an attempt to cut out dairy, because I love the taste and texture of cream in my coffee. However, my gut was very unhappy – it locked up solid for the entire week! I did not get headaches, but it seems that I am rather dependent on the coffee anyway. I have recently turned up a local source of grass fed dairy, however, and I use the cream in my coffee – I swear I can taste the grass.

      • Hi Chris,
        Thank you for the great information. Great timing too as we had fresh green beans from the garden in a Thai style stirfry last night and I had the classic symptoms! Wondered what it was…….as far as the tannins in the coffee, I guess this goes for certain wines as well?? Please say it isn’t so!!

      • Thanks for pointing this out! Coffee really messes with my gut. It helps with constipation but for me it’s impossible to have a ms. Ideal when drinking coffee! It’s why I’m now only drinking tea. 🙂

    • Thanks Elizabeth for your comment. I too was wondering about the coffee since I’ve been having a little bit of well, you know, discomfort. I think I’ll go back to drinking green tea in the morning. It’ll make me very sad as well!

    • Coffee also contains proteins which cross-react for gluten, so if you are gluten-sensitive coffee will set off those typical symptoms 🙁

      • I was hoping to replace coffee with dandelion tea too but apparently not good if have fructose malabsorption
        🙁 running out of alternative options!!

  207. THANK YOU Chris…. I’ve been feeling guilty about eating all meat, eggs, and fats lately and no fruits or veggies due to gut issues. Now I know I can take my time reintroducing them and not feel like I’m gonna drop dead!

  208. Yes I totally have done this. I no longer eat even steamed chinese takeout because the vegetables are still too hard.I love vegetables but not raw unless its a bit of mixed greens and herbs. When I caught the stomach virus even yuca was too much fiber for me to handle. I think vegetables are overrated, and have found if I need more green things I just juice my cucumbers and drink them or have liquid chlorophyll or spirulina in a smoothie. People who have gut issues should def. Not be forcing themselves to consume vegetables…

    • Some people are sensitive to fat rather than fiber, and dietary changes are only one possible intervention with gut issues.

      • I also have problems with 24 7 bloating / distention and cannot figure out what the issue is. + loose stools. ive tried all kinds of things and am still experimenting and experimenting…

        • Hello Caiti
          I am sorry to hear that, because i had the same problem for a year and It was very frustrated. Indeed, after spending tone of money on supplement and protocols, nothing has worked for me, even with following the perfect diet I was still feeling bloated and tired and even lost 10kg in 8 month.
          Recently, thanks to God ‘I cam across a very good diet (paleo Diet) which after only tow days i felt
          like have again 90% of my health back and I was seeing improvement day after day and almost all my allergies start to call down. do some recherche en this diet to have more details. Good luck

          • I’ve been on a high protein low carb no sugar diet…to restricting.
            I recently through my daughters eczema have figured out my stomach extension issues…
            Fructose!!
            Yes the underlying culprit. We can now eat all grains including wheat. We make sure it’s free off honey and sugars. It’s been a very exciting find.
            Fructose malabsorption is the term. Amazing

          • I had my GI doc test for celiac disease. He was hesitate and told me “this celiac disease is now the latest fad ‘illness'” There is no PROOF that it exists.

            • Cannot believe some people in the medical field. Believe me Celiac is a real disease……and anything but a “fad disease”. There is proof that it exists. I was diagnosed last yr. @ 60 yrs. old. I had to go to several Dr.s before finding my problem. I have found the ones that are ignorant of the Disease …are not educated and don’t believe any diseases exist beyond what they were taught in Med. School. When one has this closed mind set I would run as quickly as I could from that Dr. If I had not been correctly diagnosed I think I would have died quickly. Gluten Free has made a believer out of me. My family saw how ill I was and going GF has sure been my answer. It has taken close to a year for me to see the improved results. It did not happen quickly for me because of the inflammation in my upper intestine. I know I will have to be GF for the rest of my life. I would not wish this disease on anyone………but I would like to see some of these “fake Drs.” have it. They need educated on some of the auto immune diseases that do exist. Just because there is MD. in their title it does not mean they are always a good, smart and qualified one. I would recommend you see a different GI Dr.

              • You do not havr to be GF for life. U can cure ur celiac. Have u heard of the GAPS diet? My severe gluten and dairy eczema sensitivities/allergies have gone in 3 months. I’m still on the diet and there are so many testimonies out there on how it cures many gut problems from celiac to crohns to IBS to alzheimers to autism to constipation and the list goes on..

          • You need to be careful with these. I took a lot of probiotics and enzymes. I ended up with a large build up of d-Lactate and SIBO to boot.

            • Curious Anna, I understand SIBO can be tested for, but how did you determine D-Lactate was part of the problem? What sort of symptoms or testing revealed that? Thanks

        • I have had gutissues my whole life basicly, bloating, loose stools.. Couple months ago i started intermittent fasting, and my stools are finaly normal, (and only once a day) bloating is pretty much there though

      • Indeed! I’ve been eating 6lb butter / month (kerry gold, unsalted) for the past 6 months, and suffered increasing bloating throughout this experiment… Stopped butter, added more coconut oil… Bloating cut in half within a few days; but still not back to normal after 3 weeks 🙁 … I’ll try clarifying butter, once I rid myself of distension.

        • I have the 24/7 abdominal bloating and distension as well. I recently realized that I have candida. Eating a low carb/no sugar/no yeast diet helps some, but I’ve done some research and will be trying a few other things soon (adding in xylitol and doing a colon/parasite cleanse). For those that are experiencing the bloating and distension, you may want to research the symptoms of candida overgrowth and see if they apply to you.
          Sean, you may want to try cutting down on the coconut oil and see if you get some more relief. As much as I love coconut oil, I have a feeling that it contributes to my bloating somewhat.

          • I had that 24/7 distention too… for 6 years. I got rid of it this summer by fasting for a week on only water and green tea. It was extreme, but it worked. Now I just watch my fiber intake, eat according to the Paleo Autoimmune Protocol, and keep it pretty low carb (avoiding most fruits). Hope this helps someone.

            • Thank you for sharing! Dr. Fuhrman says in his book Fasting for Health that it’s the best way for the body to heal. Definitely giving some thought to trying it since I can’t tolerate many foods right now anyway.

        • Not all butters are the same, I discovered. I was eating and enjoying KerryGold, but that butter does not sit well with me. Try switching your butter, or using clarified butter (ghee). See if that helps. But as Chris pointed out earlier, some people have issues digesting fats, so butter could be problematic for you.

        • Coconut oil is not a healthy oil! Unlike other oils (olive, walnut etc.) Coconut oil is SOLID at room temperature which means think what that can be doing to your arteries. Just my thought.

          • It is a healthy oil, your blood should be 98 degrees at the least, which means no solidifying oils. Not even saturated fats from meat solidify in your body unless you are suffering from hypothermia. Also, your digestive system breaks oils and fatty lipids down into simple forms that do not cause build-up on arteries. And fun fact, animal fats do not cause all those horrible problems that anti-meat activists try and foist off to people who do not have any awareness in nutrition and physiology. Olive oil is more beneficial, however, so cook with that. 🙂

            • I’ve heard from a ton of sources that “cooking” with olive oil is not the best idea because of its low smoke point. Saturated fats are supposed to be the best for cooking.

          • I second Anna’s thought on cooking. @Bob: Coconut oil, though solid at room temperature, will become liquid from heat if even held in hand, let alone from the warmth of guts. Furthermore, I doubt this means anything about what it does in arteries.

      • My aunt Sue said that I’d catch a cold if I didn’t bundle up before going out in cold weather, but that doesn’t make it true. I give about the same credence to doctors’ commentary on diet, due to their miniscule training on the subject.

        • So basically you don’t trust a doctor because you don’t trust yout aunt. 🙂 OK…A doctor’s “training” on diet is better than yours anyway

          • My aunt Sue has about the same training in nutrition as most MDs, so her and the doctor’s opinion about the effects of diet are about equal in importance. I’ve had much more training and self-education than most MDs about nutrition, so my opinion about the effects of nutrition is far more trustworthy.

            • That is your opinion. My opinion is that google and internet searches does not count as “training” in nutrition. Or reading some diet book… You are entitled to believe whatever you like.

              I have an example for you: I saw some guy I know posting in another forum. The thread was about nutrition for the athletes. He basically recommended the Paleo diet. And he stated that he is an athlete on Paleo for 2 years now. Well, in reality this guy only goes to gym from time to time, smokes 2 packs of cigarettes per day and he drinks a bottle of wine everyday. (I don’t need to tell you that he is not an athlete.) Some little details he forgot to mention 🙂

              • Unfortunately, training in nutrition does not always provide all needed info either.
                Doctors are not trained in nutrition at all, actually. Unless they have its own interest in it and very few will “prescribe” a diet. All we hear you can eat what you want…
                And whose with a degree in nutrition are often leaning towards (s)he beleives: so you have to find a nutritionist who is “right” for you…That is the problem.

                • @Marina: Now that you mention it, I remember when I was sick (emergency sick) that the doctor from the emergency room prescribed me a diet. It was 3 meal/day. Unfortunately, I don’t remember more.

                  On the other hand, I believe that in order to lose weight you have to cut the carbs and also the sugar and grains. I know is true, but come on, this is not some big news.

                • Caty- Sorry but cutting carbs might actually NOT work for weight loss. For the obese most definitely. For people that are fit and work out frequently I would disagree. Actually if you’re lifting heavy weights frequently low carb might be a really bad idea for your health.

              • And attending some classes and reading some studies does not make an expert either. Why is your opinion right and the last person not? This is not a forum for disagreeing with what others say, this is for Chris to see what people have done and what has worked or not worked. Best regards!

          • It’s true, doctors are not required to learn anything about nutrition during their studies; if you need help with your diet you should probably ask a nutrition professional, a registered dietitian

            • Which they all have their own opinions and may or may not work for you, so keep looking and trying until you are satisfied with your health outcome.

          • I have worked for doctors for years and my father is a doctor. I have witnessed many of them consume what I would consider terrible diets- lots of microwave meals, soda, “junk food” etc. No, I do not think doctors are very versed in nutrition… especially since a lot of the information coming out now was not even available during their training…

        • Ya ur right Jake, paleo diet works for me. I think what IBS does is flip a switch in ur gut to make it revert back to the paleo age, weird as it sounds. When I cut out agricultural produce, i can keep my IBS under control. Chewing on mint leaves also helps. Most doctors are clueless when it comes to chronic disorders, which is why these are called chronic or recurring 😉

          • I agree. Doctors are pretty clueless when it comes to chronic conditions. Otherwise they wouldn’t be chronic. I’ve started paleo this week and already seeing positive benefits. Will keep going and note any improvements.

              • GI doctors have no training in nutrition either. They just do a scope and prescribe meds< which don't work, but that's about it. I self-diagnosed my problems and reversed them, all from reading this website, Mark's Daily Apple, and Perfect Health Diet. Feel better than I have in 25 years!

                • So true I have been going to the gi doctor for two years had three procedures done and no relief just more meds my digestive system effect me every day the gi doctor said I have ibs_twisted colon I am in great discomfort I didn’t think I will ever find the real answer doctors don’t care

      • That’s very interesting. I got an anal prolapse after doing low carb Paleo too! 🙁

        When I was on Paleo, my bowel movements were very slow and I was sometimes constipated. The straining and slower bowel movements are what led to it.

        After I started eating more starchy carbs, it has helped things somewhat, although it’s still a problem. I wish I had never gone so low carb or tried any special diets like Paleo. I probably would have done just fine eating gluten free and keeping it at that.

        • Wow, thanks Beth! Please tell me what your eating that has helped you have quicker bathroom breaks? I’m talking to my doctor about surgery but it still takes me forever to go and I’m not low carb nor do I ever have dairy. I just need to find some key foods that will make the difference and if they should be raw or cooked for best results? Please share what’s working for you…

          • After years of having trouble going to the bathroom with added pain I was tested positive for Celiac Disease on 10/2012. Going gluten free and taking a probiotic daily has totally changed my problems in this department. About ten minutes after waking up I am regular without the pain. What a blessed relief!!!

            • Without testing but working with an experienced and sympathetic holistic doc, I’m much better off gluten foods and starches, eating a higher level natural fat (would never believed that could help until it did). Had diverticulosis for 40 years but haven’t had infection for four years while off gluten and starches. Inflammation low-to zero, 50-fat pounds slimmer, have energy and motivation because I feel so much healthier. I’ve been very strict with myself–no chips, no desserts–very little wine–no beer–5 gram portions of green leaves as veggies (usually cooked)… majority of food is meat/poultry/fish/eggs/cheese with their natural fats. Many days I have one meal per day, and 2 whey-protein shakes (with water and heavy cream). For whey-protein I prefer Twinlab 100% Whey Fuel Nutritional Shake, 25 grams protein per scoop. 1 scoop is 1 serving.
              Prefer Vanilla Rush. I’m a buyer not a seller.

              • I have often wondered to myself why I don’t eat salads very often, and finally figured out it was because of the digestive issues they would cause. I did a complete diet change as a New Years resolution. I don’t drink sodas, coffee, or anything with caffeine in it what so ever, or high in syrupy sugars. I weened myself off of coffee being a 3rd shift worker with some green tea and within 2 weeks to 0 caffeine. Having conquered caffeine I moved on to no desserts or junk foods entirely. I would make up for it in just increasing my actual meal sizes. After 6 months of that I switched to a 20g whey protein shake daily so I could supplement beer into my diet for extra calories and not get fat and lazy. As long as it’s not an IPA my stomach is just fine and calm. After starting the protein shakes I noticed a big difference in my muscle tone, I don’t work out often but take the stairs whenever able to at work instead of the elevators. I did some trial physical fitness test for myself and wasn’t doing as well as I’d like – 2 minutes of push-ups (55), 2 minutes of sit-ups (45), and running I wasn’t motivated to go past 1 mile. For 1 week before my test I starting watering down my powerades. I would drink half a one (32oz) and refill it with water and repeat that process throughout my work (9pm-5am) shift about 3 times and then sometimes finish the last full bottle of it being really watered down at that point. Throughout the night I’d have to pee about once every 1-2 hours but other than that I was well hydrated and never over drank to where I felt bloated and sick. I just had my AFPT yesterday (I had a protein shake(35g), sandwich (turkey/cheese/white bread) for breakfast 2 hours before hand) and did 76 push-ups in 2 minutes, 77 sit-ups in 2 minutes, and 13:48 2 mile run (normally I’m a 14:30+). I felt like I got hit by a train afterwards because I hardly exercise so my muscles were recovering happily. I am 24 years old, 6’1, and 180 lbs. After a week of hydrating myself at work only I’ve noticed about 5lbs lost weight and much more defined muscles without flexing. I normally drink about 1-4 beers throughout the morning after I get off work for the extra carbs through out the morning and because it’s tastier than water to me with out too much sugar.

              • I have diverticulosis as well.My doctors tell me to eat a high fiber diet.I’ve been doing that but sometimes have trouble digesting carrots.Sounds weird but its the truth.Sometimes eating too much fiber gives me a lot of gas.I hope someone can give me a tip on what foods to eat.

          • Hi Alison, Hopefully you have gotten some help before now but just in case you are still struggling I will share what has helped me have “quicker bathroom breaks”. I give myself at least 2 hours before leaving the house in the morning. I drink a full glass of water upon rising and do a little yoga before cooking breakfast. I find standing over the stove cooking helps to stimulate my gut. I cook all my food in 1-2 T of fat (coconut oil, bacon fat, lard, chicken fat or ghee). I eat 3 times as much vegetables as protein food – this has been really key for me as has eating enough fat. Also check out Sean Croxtons you tube video Poopin 2.0! Good luck and Happy Pooping

        • Paleo is not one size fits all. Each person needs to learn how to read his/her own body. What fuels it and what fails it. Eliminating bad seed oils, processed foods and grains, does not make a person ill. That’s the basis of paleo. Get rid of the junk food. Then learn what nourishes your own body. Doctors are not going to know. Take ownership of your own health.

      • You don’t get a prolapsed rectum because of your diet. It amazes me that people post something as fact when they repeat something “they heard.” I also like how people become self proclaimed medical experts because they read something on web md or got their graduate degree on wikihow.

    • I did paleo for a long time and couldn’t figure out why I had 24/7 distension, but I figured it out: meats, cheeses, fats, nuts and the other non carb staples of the diet are high density. It is taxing on the system to break all that mass down. What’s not digesting is rotting, a disgusting thought, but there you go. #Iwasthebloatmonster.
      Cath

    • Try cutting out onions in all it’s forms (spanish onion, brown onion, shallots, leak and the dreaded “onion powder”) If I a package lists “spices” this is an indication that the product includes onion powder – which is the Number 1 problem for people with Fructose malabsorption – a common reason for digestive issues. Also stay off the wheat, that also has a big impact.

      • You are so right Joey. Onion in all its forms turned out to be a huge problem for me, and the fact that it is ‘hidden’ under the ingredient called ‘spices’ is so annoying. It isn’t a spice, after all!

    • please consider having the non-invasive blood test for CA-125 to aid in early detection of ovarian cancer, just in case, as nothing else has eased your bloating. if that is negative, consider going to a gastro-enterologist to rule out chronic diseases, or to treat them while still in the early stages.

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