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Does Red Meat Cause Inflammation?


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Sources of red meat, such as this steak, may cause inflammation. iStock.com/eddieberman

So far in my series on red meat, I’ve discussed why red meat is good for you and why grass fed is a better choice than grain fed. We now know that red meat is a healthy choice, due to its high nutritive value and superior fatty acid profile among other reasons. In the comments on these posts, however, I’ve noticed a few readers have mentioned other components in red meat that are concerning, due to evidence for the potential for inflammation or carcinogenesis.

Yet is this evidence strong enough to advise a reduction in red meat, or is this yet another false alarm creating unnecessary fear of eating meat?

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Two different controlled trials have measured inflammation markers in response to increased red meat intake, and both have found that red meat does not elevate these markers. The first study concludes that increasing red meat consumption by replacing carbohydrates in the diet of non-anemic individuals actually reduces markers of inflammation. (1) The other study showed that in anemic women, inflammation markers on a diet high in red meat were not significantly different from those on a diet high in oily fish. (2) This evidence suggests that red meat is not more inflammatory than other meats for most people, and is potentially less inflammatory than dietary carbohydrates. However, I’d like to discuss a couple of other specific mechanisms that are often blamed for inflammation.


Despite the lack of controlled trials demonstrating that red meat is inflammatory, there has been recent concern over a compound in red meat called Neu5Gc. (3) Neu5Gc is a monosaccharide that acts as a type of signaling molecule in mammalian cells, and one of its functions is to help the immune system distinguish between ‘self’ cells and ‘foreign’ cells. (4) Humans lost the ability to produce Neu5Gc millions of years ago through a genetic mutation, although we still produce the closely related compound Neu5Ac. (5) Humans are unique in this respect, because most other mammals still produce Neu5Gc, which is why that compound is found in mammalian meat.

When humans consume red meat and milk products, we incorporate some of this compound into our own tissues, especially tissues that grow at a fast pace such as fetuses, epithelial and endothelial tissue, and tumors. (6) The concern is that most of us also have anti-Neu5Gc antibodies circulating in our blood, and some researchers have suggested that these antibodies react with the Neu5Gc in our tissues to create chronic inflammation, leading to chronic diseases such as cancer.

The problem is that researchers are nowhere near proving that hypothesis. Research is in the very earliest stages, and while some fascinating hypotheses involving this molecule are being generated, the studies needed to confirm or refute these hypotheses are nonexistent. Most of the studies done on the topic acknowledge that at this point, any role in chronic inflammation is speculative, but many who have cited their research neglect to acknowledge that limitation. Thus begins a new round of fear mongering at the expense of red meat.

In the absence of conclusive evidence one way or another, it can be helpful to remember that red meat has been part of the human diet for much of our history, and remains an important dietary element of many healthy cultures. For example, the traditional diet of the Masai was composed almost entirely of red meat, blood, and milk – all high in Neu5Gc – yet they were free from modern inflammatory diseases. (7) If Neu5Gc really caused significant inflammation, the Masai should’ve been the first to know, because they probably couldn’t have designed a diet higher in Neu5Gc if they tried.

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Arachidonic Acid

Arachidonic acid (AA) is often cited as a source of inflammation, and because AA is found primarily in eggs and meat, this concern could contribute to the view that red meat is inflammatory. AA is an essential omega-6 fatty acid that is a vital component of cell membranes and plays an important role in the inflammatory response. (8) It’s especially necessary during periods of bodily growth or repair, and is thus a natural and important component of breast milk. (9) AA is sometimes portrayed as something to be avoided entirely simply because it is ‘inflammatory,’ but as usual, that view drastically oversimplifies what actually happens in the body.

It’s true that AA plays a role in inflammation, but that’s a good thing! It ensures that our body responds properly to a physical insult or pathogen, and it also helps ensure that the inflammatory response is turned off when it’s no longer needed. AA interacts with other omega-3 and omega-6 fatty acids in intricate and subtle ways, and an imbalance in any of those fats has undesirable effects. For example, low doses of EPA tend to increase tissue levels of AA, while high doses decrease levels of AA, which probably explains why the benefits of fish oil supplementation are lost at higher doses. (10)  In epidemiological studies, higher plasma levels of both AA and the long-chain omega-3 PUFA were associated with the lowest levels of inflammatory markers. (11, 12) And clinical studies have found that adding up to 1,200 mg of AA per day—which is 12 times higher than the average intake of AA in the U.S.— to the diet has no discernible effect on the production of inflammatory cytokines. (13, 14) What’s more, our Paleolithic ancestors (who were largely free of chronic, inflammatory disease) consumed at least twice the amount of AA that the average American does today. (15)

Finally, it’s important to note that red meat actually has a lower concentration of AA than other meats because of its lower overall PUFA content. (16)(17) Additionally, red meat has been shown to increase tissue concentrations of both AA and the long chain omega-3s DHA and EPA, preserving the all-important balance of omega-3 and omega-6. (18)

Charred Meat and Cancer

The final concern I want to address involves compounds that are produced when meat is cooked, including advanced glycation end products (AGEs), heterocyclic amines (HAs), and polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons (PAHs). Again, this applies to all meat, not just red meat, but it can still contribute to the perception that red meat is unhealthy.

HAs and PAHs have both been shown to cause cancer in animal models, and although these results can’t necessarily be extrapolated to humans, it’s probably wise to limit exposure to these two compounds. (19)(20) HAs and PAHs are formed when meat is cooked using high-heat or dry cooking methods such as frying, grilling, or smoking. But while cooked meat is the only significant source of HAs, PAHs are a ubiquitous environmental contaminant, and the bulk of dietary PAHs actually come from vegetables and grains. (21) In fact, levels of PAH in leafy vegetables are comparable to levels in smoked meat! However, the highest food levels of PAH are found in charred meats that have been cooked over an open flame.

AGEs are different from the other compounds in that they can be formed both endogenously and exogenously. (22) Like HAs and PAHs, AGEs are formed when foods – particularly meat – are cooked, although they are also naturally present even in uncooked meat. However, dietary AGEs do not tell the whole story, because they can also form through various metabolic pathways in the body. One study showed that while omnivores generally have higher dietary intakes of AGEs than vegetarians, vegetarians actually end up with higher concentrations of AGEs in their plasma. (23) The authors hypothesized that their results were due to the increased fructose intake of vegetarians, although another plausible mechanism appears to be the inhibition of AGE formation by carnosine, an amino acid found in meat. (24)(25) Either way, I wouldn’t be terribly concerned about AGEs in meat, although I still recommend favoring lower-heat cooking methods to avoid HAs and PAHs.

If you do want to grill or fry your meats, you can significantly reduce the formation of all of these compounds by using an acidic marinade, which has the added bonus of tasting great! Marinating beef for one hour reduced AGE formation by over half, and marinades can cut HA formation in meat by up to 90%. (26)

Overall, there’s no good evidence that red meat is more inflammatory than other meats, and some evidence indicating that it’s less inflammatory. Just like any other food, it’s certainly possible for people to have individual intolerances to red meat that might induce inflammation, but there’s no reason for most people to restrict red meat on the basis of inflammation. Additionally, AGEs from meat are probably not a concern, and meat eaters might even be better off when it comes to plasma levels of AGEs. Any concerns about other compounds produced by cooking meat can be minimized simply by favoring wet or low-heat cooking methods, or using a marinade when high-heat methods are desired.

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  1. there are many difficulties eating red meat in one’s blood type is other than type-O. While A’s tend toward vegetarianism and AB’s are a blend of A’s and B’s, B’s tend to thrive on non-red meats of fowl, kangaroo and fish (dietary strategies promoted by http://www.dadamo.com). Their are still numerous problems associated with this strategy and with paleo too, especially the variations that seasons bring … ie. there is no grass during winter and freezing alters protein structures, etc, etc.

  2. Not sure why everyone thinks there is some conspiracy against red meat. Maybe it’s bad for people. Maybe it does cause inflammation. Maybe through breading and mutation it’s no longer healthy. Maybe it wasn’t healthy before. There are so many factors and to keep leaning on such and such tribe was healthy is just desperate. We should be concerned with health and not our personal desire to eat any one thing or other vested interests that distort truth. Why do we always assume there is some explanation when something negative comes out against meat. It’s all very silly. I have eaten meat my whole life and i can say I have never seen it as anti-inflammatory. I was vegan for a few months as an experiment and I certainly had way less inflammation. There is also the issue of endotoxins in meat which also cause systemic inflammation. There are other ways to get omega 3’s from seeds that have none of these negative effects. Seeds have their own problems too of course, but we should be seeking for what works for us and not perpetuating some brainwashed fanboyism.

    • Would have to agree. I would say the meat that our parents and grand-parents ate would have been quite different from the meat of today.

  3. Well I am going to talk from the perspective of somebody who is trying to gain weight due to underweight condition. I was told about this lack of evidence for inflammation from red meat and that it is a good source of calories without eating a high proportion of carbs/sugar. I know bugger all about the technicalities of this. All I do know, is when I started eating a lot of (about 1-1.5lbs) red meat each day, I get terrible shooting pains in my feet and nerve twitches. It triggers severe inflammatory response in me. I am giving it up altogether and eating a much higher carbohydrate diet. I can’t go on with those symptoms.

    • Hi Richard, I can relate to your post. I just posted my comment above in regards to something similar.

    • I’ve had ribeye on June 6, Jul 11, Jul 29 and prime rib on Aug 21. On June 7, Jul 12, Jul 30 and Aug 22, I awoke with severe (debilitating) back pain. Anecdotal? Perhaps – but I think I’ve finally learned that fatty cuts of beef don’t agree with me.

      Oddly, hamburgers don’t appear to bother my system.

  4. As ever, an excellent article and I for one will carry on eating red meat three to four times a week as part of my low carb diet.

    As someone who is also interested in exercise I’ve recently changed over from an hour of aerobic exercise every other day to a relatively new HIIT programme, and there is one particular aspect of this I would ask you to comment on.

    Here is the relevant paragraph:

    “Dr Daniel Rudman published the first research study on HGH and longevity in 1990. He reported a change in the muscle to fat ratio in his subjects that was equivalent to 10 to 20 years of reversed aging. A healthy 20 year old has a 80% – 20% muscle to fat ratio while a 70 year old has a 50% – 50% ratio. However, HGH does more than increase muscle mass. It improves the synthesis of protein and stimulates a protein dependent immune system. This hormone can quite dramatically improve the breakdown of fats with obvious implications for weight management and Coronary Heart Disease (CHD) (our largest killer). HGH increases calcium retention and the strength and mineralisation of bones and it also contributes to pancreatic health. Pancreatic stress has been linked to many degenerative diseases.”

    Full article here: http://www.ntshealth.com.au/wellness/blog/reclaiming-the-youth-hormone.html

    My question relates to the mention of a “protein dependent immune system”.
    Does this literally mean that the immune system is dependent on the intake of protein, and that a lowering of protein intake would equate to a lowering of the body’s immune system, and in general do you agree with my assumption that HIIT seems to be particularly suited to those on a low carb (which in reality means a high protein) diet?


    • Hi there, a friend of mine who has been quite the health buff. He ate great and worked out frequently. He took the HGH and although it helped with muscle mass it messed his insides. He had a heart attack at the age of 37 and it indirectly was caused from the HGH. The HGH enlarged his heart and weakened the arteries surrounding his heart. He now has to be extremely careful..

  5. A fascinating discussion is definitely worth comment.
    I believe that you need to write more about this
    subject, it might not be a taboo matter but usually folks don’t talk about these subjects. To the next! Best wishes!!

  6. I found out about Neu5gc recently and I am concerned, especially since I have an inflammatory skin condition. Would it be better to switch to lean poultry (low omega-6) than continue to eat red meat?

  7. “For example, the traditional diet of the Masai was composed almost entirely of red meat, blood, and milk – all high in Neu5Gc – yet they were free from modern inflammatory diseases. (7)”

    I get why people keep trying to fall back on Price’s research into the Masai, but I’m afraid it’s misleading. The Masai actually had significant rates of atherosclerosis, they just didn’t die from it, at least not the ones that otherwise lived long enough to matter. (http://aje.oxfordjournals.org/content/95/1/26.abstract)

    • I was diagnosed with M.S. about a year after a freak episode occured with my spine. I’ve had extreme back pain ever since. Although I really enjoy my red meat, I’ve slowly cut back and am at a point where i’ve almost cut it out completely. I’ve noticed a drastic change in my pain level and how much it has reduced. I’m no doctoc, but for me, the red meat had elevated some sort of inflammation because I noticed an increase in pain shortly after. Just read all these posts and thought to share my two-cent experience!

      • Thanks for posting. I have been on LCHF for 1 yr, 8 months. I have corrected blood pressure, insulin resistance, menstrual problems and have lost 76 lbs. However I am now looking at reducing red meat and going to more turkey and fish as inflammation has not improved. Lots of foods cause inflammation including dairy and eggs. We have to continue to experiment and possibly try elimination diet. Thanks for sharing.

    • It’s causation anyway. Their lifestyle is totally different than ours, as well as med care or the lack thereof. They walk everywhere they go for miles. A friend worked with them. Theses studies do not take into account the entire picture. I am still studying about inflammation. Yes one loses weight but eating meat and fat has not reduced inflammation in me. has not reduced inflammation. If the Masai die young it is probably due to other reasons. They live in mud huts and burn dung for fuel also.

  8. I look forward to hearing Chris’s response. Here’s the write up that was in Sustainable Food News:
    U.S. meat industry says study’s findings should not impact eating beef, other meats
    April 9, 2013

    A dietary compound abundant in red meat and also used as a supplement in energy drinks promotes the hardening of arteries, or atherosclerosis, according to a new study by the Cleveland Clinic.

    Bacteria in the digestive tract metabolize the compound L-carnitine into trimethylamine-N-oxide (TMAO), a metabolite previously linked to atherosclerosis in humans, researchers with the nonprofit academic medical center reported in the journal Nature Medicine.

    The study tested the carnitine and TMAO levels of over 2,500 omnivores, vegans and vegetarians. Researchers found that vegans and vegetarians, even after consuming a large amount of carnitine, did not produce significant levels of the microbe product TMAO. But omnivores consuming the same amount of carnitine did.

    Researchers also tested the cardiac effects of a carnitine-enhanced diet in normal mice compared with mice that had suppressed levels of intestinal microbes and found that TMAO changes cholesterol metabolism at multiple levels.

    They found that increased carnitine levels in patients predicted increased risks for cardiovascular disease and major cardiac events like heart attack, stroke and death, but only in subjects with concurrently high TMAO levels.

    “The bacteria living in our digestive tracts are dictated by our long-term dietary patterns,” said lead researcher Dr. Stanley Hazen. “A diet high in carnitine actually shifts our gut microbe composition to those that like carnitine, making meat eaters even more susceptible to forming TMAO and its artery-clogging effects. Meanwhile, vegans and vegetarians have a significantly reduced capacity to synthesize TMAO from carnitine, which may explain the cardiovascular health benefits of these diets.”

    Prior research has shown that a diet with frequent red meat consumption is associated with increased cardiovascular disease risk, but that the cholesterol and saturated fat content in red meat does not appear to be enough to explain the increased cardiovascular risks.

    This discrepancy has been attributed to genetic differences, a high salt diet that is often associated with red meat consumption, and even possibly the cooking process, among other explanations. But Hazen said this new research suggests a new connection between red meat and cardiovascular disease.

    “This process is different in everyone, depending on the gut microbe metabolism of the individual,” he said. “Carnitine metabolism suggests a new way to help explain why a diet rich in red meat promotes atherosclerosis.”

    While carnitine is naturally occurring in red meats, including beef, venison, lamb, mutton, duck, and pork, it’s also a dietary supplement available in pill form and a common ingredient in energy drinks. With this new research in mind, Hazen cautions that more research needs to be done to examine the safety of chronic carnitine supplementation.

    “Carnitine is not an essential nutrient; our body naturally produces all we need,” he said. “We need to examine the safety of chronically consuming carnitine supplements as we’ve shown that, under some conditions, it can foster the growth of bacteria that produce TMAO and potentially clog arteries.”

    The U.S. meat industry issued a statement downplaying the connection between hardened arteries and the consumption of red meat.

    “Attempts to link cardiovascular disease to a single compound that is found at safe levels in red meat oversimplifies this complex disease,” said American Meat Institute (AMI) Foundation Chief Scientist Betsy Booren said. “In fact, the study’s authors themselves say red meat is not to blame, but rather argue that excessive supplementation with L-carnitine that is found at safe and healthy levels in red meat may be a concern.”

    AMI also said the National Institutes of Health fact sheet on L-carnitine shows it is safe and essential.

    “A look at the full body of research into cardiovascular disease and diet will show that red meat can be enjoyed for its good taste and nutrition as part of a healthy, balanced diet,” Booren said. “This study should not prompt any dietary changes and consumers who enjoy red meat should continue to do so with confidence.”

    The study is the latest research by Hazen and his colleagues exploring how gut microbes can contribute to atherosclerosis, uncovering new and unexpected pathways involved in heart disease.

    In a 2011 Nature study, they first discovered that people are not predisposed to cardiovascular disease solely because of their genetic make-up, but also based on how the micro-organisms in their digestive tracts metabolize lecithin, a compound with a structure similar to carnitine.

  9. And now the media is full of the latest attack on red meat (The New York Times, Carnitine, Heart Disease and Science).
    So, Chris, can we expect a posting with your thoughts?

  10. I just read an article on HeartWire: http://www.theheart.org/article/1526279.do suggesting that L-carnitine in red meat may up CVD risk via altered gut flora. It seems like yet another study aimed at vilifying red meat and promoting a “heart healthy” low-fat, low-cholesterol diet for disease prevention. What are your thoughts on this?

  11. A BBC article about this new study on red meat/carnitine also gives the following warning, and I’m wondering what to do with this information:

    “….I would strongly recommend that unless you’re a vegetarian or vegan, there is a potential risk from taking L-carnitine, lecithin, choline or betaine supplements in an attempt to ward off cognitive decline or improve fat metabolism. If the evidence is confirmed, these supplements would do more to damage arteries than provide health benefits.”
    from: the BBC, 7 April 2013, Red meat chemical ‘damages heart’, say US scientists http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22042995

    I was just about to order a betaine/TMG supplement today, as per Chris’ low-B12 advice (taking 4 supplements: methylcobalamin + folate + TMG/betaine + potassium), when I saw this BBC article warning against taking betaine. For my low B12, I don’t know if I should just take the other 3 and skip the betaine?

    • Red meat opponents are at it again confusing symptoms and cause. Sometimes any response lends credibility to non credible argument.
      At risk of this, recent Australian press states Wagu type fat meat indicates heart problems related to its consumption, compared to lean Kangaroo meat. Next they are saying carnitine in all red meat including Kangaroo is related to heart disease. This is despite all manner of positive evidence on carnitine indicating the opposite. They cannot have it both ways and reminds me of the ‘heads I win, tails you lose’ coin toss argument. Also ‘the whole is greater than the sum of the parts’ (Jan Smuts)
      In trying to explain these anomalies and the concept of balance to customers regarding essential fatty acids in red meat after years of the anti fat lipid hypothesis (Ancel keys) I often use analogies, comparing the human body to a two stroke engine such as a power saw or leaf blower. Most understand they run on a mixture of gas and oil and need a spark to work. With the gas as Omega 6 and the oil as Omega 3 and the spark as CoQ10 all quickly understand too much gas(omega 6) en-flames, causes engine to race and eventually seize, too much oil(omega 3) and/or lack of spark and it will not run.
      The weight of evidence in favor of the goodness of red meat as a human fuel, in balance, goes back over a million years in our evolution and far outweighs any indirect correlation to bacteria and a component of it considered in isolation.
      I will certainly keep eating it daily. With regard to human health, the evidence is irrefutable when considered as a whole, as adduced by Chris and others.

      • Thank you for posting a reply to my question, but I was not speaking of eating red meat — I was speaking solely about taking isolated Betaine/TMG/trimethylglycine as a standalone nutritional supplement, as part of Chris Kresser’s 4-supplement plan for people who have low Vitamin B12 and need to take supplements in order to heal their body’s imbalance.

  12. Hi-I really enjoyed your article and wanted to pass this link to a study just referenced in the NYTimes today re the danger s of carnitine in red meat specifically. of course I’m sure the study wasn’t done w grass fed meat! : http://nyti.ms/XmgD8N

    I would really appreciate your thoughts on this- thanks!!

    • Diane,
      I have read the study and my immediate reaction is to reply as did the beef eater old stockmen of my youth when newspapers reported a correlation between red meat and heart attacks sixty years ago. “Better to go with a heart attack and all your marbles than a stroke or other disease.” These people believed in eating beef daily and invariably lived into their 90’s.
      I have eaten beef daily whenever possible since and had very good blood analysis results a couple of years ago with low triglycerides and normal range cholesterol. This had improved in blood sugars in the normal range from a couple of years before when I was more overweight, (80lb.instead of less than 40lb. but I don’t walk with dogs like they did daily) I still eat 8 to 10 ounces of beef daily but have cut out all chicken, most pork and most breads and potatoes because of my personal research and the evidence relating to Omega 6:3 ratios etc. in grass fat beef. I also feel much and younger and mentally alert.
      Further, even if there is some connection it is not cause and would refer you to Chris’s last paragraph on Neu5Gc as the same applies. Now in my early 70’s with good health, I will continue eating grass fattened beef daily if I can as it supplies all the nutrients I need and passing suddenly with a heart attack is not the worst way to face the inevitable. Besides I really enjoy eating beef, in all its versatility, especially the healthiest Knuckle/ marrow bone/organ meat soups with carrots and other greens, with several servings weekly. I have no doubt that these contain all healthy essentials as our forbears knew.

      • Beefeater, dont worry, you’re preaching to the choir- I’m a full time fellow beefeater- just was giving Chris that study reference from Sunday’s paper since he didn’t mention it as a most recent research event

        • Diane
          Sorry I awoke to your comment and did not realise you were asking Chris.
          But nice to know you understand. And hopefully get to enjoy the best of food.

      • Anecdotal evidence is terrible evidence. This is a science website, people. You would at least think that the comment section were about the facts in the studies or other related studies that could possibly correlate/contradict the findings in this one. Are we so scientifically illiterate that even on a site designed to examine facts we rely on anecdotal evidence from complete strangers? Come on.

  13. Chris,
    Thank you very much for these articles re the health giving benefits of consuming red meats, especially grass fattened beef. I have come to believe they are the modern equivalent of seasonally fat wild big game ruminants, consumption of which allowed our brains and IQ to develop and eventually their domestication. This in turn allowed the evolution of settled agriculture and civilization. Unfortunately the symbiotic and synergistic relationship inherent in pastoral, animal husbandry, and sustainable cropping food systems, has been lost in favor of industrial grain farming, leading to all kinds of problems for soil, and air upon which humanity depends.
    Settled agriculture has led to the rise and fall of previous civilizations through grain growing and its control of the many by so few until the fundamentals become overlooked and forgotten. I was recently reminded of this on being sent some scenes of Roman Wall country in UK where I went to farming school in the 50’s within three miles of one of the Roman fortifications being excavated on the ‘Edge of the Empire’ as it is known locally. These fortifications all had granaries with under floor drying and the populace was required to grow grain and pay tribute for its storage and movement on Roman roads, as I understand my history lessons. Recently I have come to realize that we are in danger of repeating the mistakes that led to the so-called dark ages before our enlightened society.
    Articles such as yours will hopefully lead to true enlightenment and prevent history repeating. I have been collating much the same evidence you cite in your articles and they are very valuable for anyone interested in searching for the whole truth.
    We have had scientific proof from fatty acid analysis since the mid 90’s that our grass fattened beef is indeed the very best functional food covering all known requirements for health of humans, plus its pastoral production is healthy for environment and integrated with vegetables, gives the healthiest of produce. Romans in the first century knew that 2.8 tonnes of farm yard manure are needed to replace the fertility removed from the soil by any annual crop and nothing has really changed.
    Looking realistically at the evidence you really said it all with the following extract.
    ‘In the absence of conclusive evidence one way or another, it can be helpful to remember that red meat has been part of the human diet for much of our history’,
    Due to brain washing of the last few decades it is very difficult for many who have become disconnected from nature to accept the obvious truth. You need to keep up your good work in debunking the anti-red meat crowd.

        • Chris, when you respond, could you also address a statement made in a BBC article about this new study, which is:

          “….I would strongly recommend that unless you’re a vegetarian or vegan, there is a potential risk from taking L-carnitine, lecithin, choline or betaine supplements in an attempt to ward off cognitive decline or improve fat metabolism. If the evidence is confirmed, these supplements would do more to damage arteries than provide health benefits.”
          from: the BBC, 7 April 2013, Red meat chemical ‘damages heart’, say US scientists http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-22042995

          I was just about to order a betaine/TMG supplement today, as per your low-B12 advice (taking 4 supplements: methylcobalamin + folate + TMG/betaine + potassium), when I saw this BBC article warning against taking betaine. For my low B12, should I just take the other 3 and skip the betaine? Thank you.

          • Lily, I surely HOPE that this will not be confirmed, as these supplements are very effective for a variety of conditions, but who knows? I also asked Chris to pls post a comment.

  14. I have been concerned about this, and my attempts to learn more were frustrating.. Thank you for this, Chris.