What do all of these chronic diseases have in common?
- Alzheimer’s, dementia, cognitive decline, and memory loss (collectively referred to as “aging”)
- Multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurological disorders
- Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and psychosis
- Cardiovascular disease
- Learning or developmental disorders in kids
- Autism spectrum disorder
- Autoimmune disease and immune dysregulation
- Cancer
- Male and female infertility
Answer: Their signs and symptoms can all be mimicked by a vitamin B12 deficiency.
An Invisible Epidemic
B12 deficiency isn’t a bizarre, mysterious disease. It’s written about in every medical textbook, and its causes and effects are well-established in the scientific literature.
However, the condition is far more common than most healthcare practitioners and the general public realize. Data from a Tufts University study suggests that 40 percent of people between the ages of 26 and 83 have plasma B12 levels in the low normal range—a range at which many experience neurological symptoms. Nine percent had an outright nutrient deficiency, and 16 percent exhibited “near deficiency.” Most surprising to the researchers was the fact that low B12 levels were as common in younger people as they were in the elderly. (1)
That said, this type of deficiency has been estimated to affect about 40 percent of people over 60 years of age. It’s entirely possible that at least some of the symptoms we attribute to “normal” aging—such as memory loss, cognitive decline, and decreased mobility—are at least in part caused by a deficiency.
Why Is It Underdiagnosed?
This is why most studies underestimate true levels of deficiency. Many deficient people have so-called “normal” levels of B12.
Yet, it is well-established in the scientific literature that people with B12 levels between 200 pg/mL and 350 pg/mL—levels considered “normal” in the U.S.—have clear vitamin deficiency symptoms. (2) Experts who specialize in the diagnosis and treatment of a deficiency, like Sally Pacholok, R.N., and Jeffrey Stuart, D.O., suggest treating all patients that are symptomatic and have B12 levels less than 450 pg/mL. (3) They also recommend treating patients who show normal B12 levels but also have elevated urinary methylmalonic acid (MMA), homocysteine, or holotranscobalamin, which are other markers of a deficiency in vitamin B12.
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In Japan and Europe, the lower limit for B12 is between 500 and 550 pg/mL. Those levels are associated with psychological and behavioral symptoms, such as:
- Cognitive decline
- Dementia
- Memory loss (4)
Some experts have speculated that the acceptance of higher levels as normal in Japan and the willingness to treat levels considered “normal” in the U.S. explain the low rates of Alzheimer’s and dementia in that country.
What Is Vitamin B12 and Why Do You Need It?
Vitamin B12 works together with folate in the synthesis of DNA and red blood cells. It’s also involved in the production of the myelin sheath around the nerves and the conduction of nerve impulses. You can think of the brain and the nervous system as a big tangle of wires. Myelin is the insulation that protects those wires and helps them to conduct messages.
Severe B12 deficiency in conditions like pernicious anemia (an autoimmune condition where the body destroys intrinsic factor, a protein necessary for the absorption of the vitamin) used to be fatal until scientists figured out death could be prevented by feeding patients raw liver, which contains high amounts of B12. But anemia is the final stage of a deficiency. Long before anemia sets in, deficient patients will experience several other problems, including fatigue, lethargy, weakness, memory loss, and neurological and psychiatric problems.
The Stages of a Deficiency
B12 deficiency occurs in four stages, beginning with declining blood levels of the vitamin (stage I), progressing to low cellular concentrations of the vitamin (stage II), an increased blood level of homocysteine and a decreased rate of DNA synthesis (stage III), and finally, macrocytic anemia (stage IV). (5)
Common B12 Deficiency Symptoms
The signs can look like the symptoms of several other serious disorders, and the neurological effects of low B12 can be especially troubling.
Here are some of the most common vitamin B12 deficiency symptoms:
- Tingling or numbness in the hands and feet
- Brain fog, confusion, and memory problems
- Depression
- Premature aging
- Cognitive decline
- Anemia
- Weakness
- Fatigue
- Reduced appetite and weight loss
- Constipation
- Trouble balancing (6)
Children can also show symptoms, including developmental issues and learning disabilities if their B12 levels are too low.
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Why Is It So Common?
The absorption of B12 is complex and involves several steps—any of which can go wrong. Any of the following can cause B12 malabsorption:
- Intestinal dysbiosis
- Leaky gut and gut inflammation
- Atrophic gastritis or hypochlorhydria, or low stomach acid
- Pernicious anemia
- Medications, especially proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) and other acid-suppressing drugs
- Alcohol
- Exposure to nitrous oxide, during either surgery or recreational use
This explains why a deficiency can occur even in people eating large amounts of B12-containing animal products. In fact, many of my patients that are B12 deficient are following a Paleo diet where they eat meat two or three times daily.
Who Is at Risk for a Deficiency?
In general, the following groups are at greatest risk for a deficiency:
- Vegetarians and vegans
- People aged 60 or over
- People who regularly use PPIs or acid-suppressing drugs
- People on diabetes drugs like metformin
- People with Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, celiac, or IBS
- Women with a history of infertility and miscarriage
Note to Vegetarians and Vegans: B12 Is Found Only in Animal Products
You cannot get B12 from plant-based sources. This vitamin is only found in animal products. That’s why vegetarians and vegans need to know the signs of deficiency—and the steps necessary to fix the problem.
A common myth among vegetarians and vegans is that it’s possible to get B12 from plant sources like:
- Fermented soy
- Spirulina
- Brewers yeast
However, plant foods said to contain B12 actually contain B12 analogs called cobamides that block the intake of and increase the need for true B12. (7) That explains why studies consistently demonstrate that up to 50 percent of long-term vegetarians and 80 percent of vegans are deficient in B12. (8, 9)
Seaweed is another commonly cited plant source of B12, but this idea is controversial. Research indicates that there may be important differences in dried versus raw purple nori; namely, raw nori may be a good source of B12, while dried nori may not be. One study indicated that the drying process used for seaweed creates B12 analogs, making it a poor source of the vitamin, while animal research suggests that dried nori can correct a B12 deficiency. (10, 11) Seaweed may provide B12, but it’s not clear if those benefits are negated when that seaweed is dried. I recommend caution for that reason.
The Impact of a Deficiency on Children
The effects of B12 deficiency on kids are especially alarming. Studies have shown that kids raised until age six on a vegan diet are still B12 deficient even years after they start eating at least some animal products. In one study, the researchers found an association between a child’s B12 status and their performance on testing measuring:
- Spatial ability
- Fluid intelligence
- Short-term memory
Researchers found that formerly vegan children scored lower than their omnivorous counterparts in each area. (12)
The deficit in fluid intelligence is particularly troubling, the researchers said, because this area impacts a child’s ability to reason, work through complex problems, learn, and engage in abstract thinking. Defects in any of these areas could have long-term consequences for kids.
I recognize that there are many reasons why people choose to eat the way they do, and I respect people’s right to make their own choices. I also know that, like all parents, vegetarians and vegans want the best for their children. This is why it’s absolutely crucial for those that abstain from animal products to understand that there are no plant sources of B12 and that all vegans and most vegetarians should supplement with B12.
This is especially important for vegetarian or vegan children or pregnant women, whose need for B12 is even greater. If you’re not willing to take a dietary supplement, it may be time to think twice about your vegetarian or vegan diet.
How to Treat a Deficiency
One of the greatest tragedies of the B12 epidemic is that diagnosis and treatment are relatively easy and cheap—especially when compared to the treatment patients will need if they’re in a late stage of deficiency. A B12 test can be performed by any laboratory, and it should be covered by insurance. If you don’t have insurance, you can order it yourself from a lab like DirectLabs.com.
As always, adequate treatment depends on the underlying mechanism causing the problem. People with pernicious anemia or inflammatory gut disorders like Crohn’s disease are likely to have impaired absorption for their entire lives and will likely require B12 injections or high-dose oral cobalamin indefinitely. This may also be true for those with a severe deficiency that’s causing neurological symptoms.
Typically in the past, most B12 experts recommended injections over high-dose oral cobalamin for people with pernicious anemia and an advanced deficiency involving neurological symptoms. However, recent studies have suggested that high-dose oral or nasal administration may be as effective as injections for those with B12 malabsorption problems. (13, 14)
Try Supplementing
Japanese studies indicate that methylcobalamin is even more effective in treating neurological symptoms and that it may be better absorbed because it bypasses several potential problems in the B12 absorption cycle. (15, 16) On top of that, methylcobalamin provides the body with methyl groups that play a role in various biological processes important to overall health.
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Change Your Diet
Nourishing your body through whole food is the best way to get the vitamins and nutrients you need. If you’re low on B12, try eating some vitamin-rich foods like:
- Liver
- Shellfish
- Clams
- Oysters
- Organ Meats
Eating other kinds of seafood, like octopus, fish eggs, lobster, and crab, can also help you attain normal B12 levels. If you’re seafood-averse, you can also get this vitamin from:
- Lamb
- Beef
- Eggs
- Cheese
It’s important to note, though, that the amount of B12 in these foods is nowhere near as high as the levels in shellfish and organ meats.
What to Do if You’re Experiencing Vitamin B12 Deficiency Symptoms
If you suspect you have a deficiency, the first step is to get tested. You need an accurate baseline to work from.
If you are B12 deficient, the next step is to identify the mechanism causing the deficiency. You’ll probably need help from a medical practitioner for this part. Once the mechanism is identified, the appropriate form (injection, oral, sublingual, or nasal) of supplementation, the dose, and the length of treatment can be selected.
So, next time you or someone you know is “having a senior moment,” remember: It might not be “just aging.” It could be B12 deficiency.

Please consider a problem with the MTHFR genes. I have problems with the B12 also, have pernicous anemia. My big problem is methylation which can cause all sorts of problems, including B12 problems and pernicious anemia, ammonia in the brain which causes foggy thinking, Trying to avoid food with sulfur. There are doctors who specialize in methylation treatments. You can get tested for these problems.
TO Jacque: I am so sorry, it is probably my browser but for some reason, I cannot get to your question and or response wuthout a big search so I am going to respond at the bottom, I hope that you see this.
I think that the most frustrating thing about all this are the Doctors. IMO, your B12 was not very high at all for having taken weekly injections for ten weeks. Most would have been over a thousand and you cannot overdose. Your symptoms going away was the key as well. You know, maybe another Dr. is in order. At first I wanted to say take a supplement on your own, and that is good but, you need to find out why, like me, your B12 is so low and your body is not holding onto it, processing it properly. I am very frustrated, just like you. I have a platter full of illnesses right now and it is a matter of picking which one I would like to take care of. Hmmmm, brain tumor, CIDP, B12,,,Hmmm…But then again, could some of my symptoms be worse due to my B12? This is a puzzling stew and I just wish that I had a doctor who was on board with it all. My great doctor who started this rolling for me, found the ignored issue, returned to Lebanon to take care of her mother, who has MS.
I have one more question. My methyl. acid is ok, no problems there. Is it ok for my shots to be the C ones, cannot spell that, instead of the M ones? I put that I did 1000 ml, but of course, it is whatever that is, mcg, or whatever. And, I will get the subling. Methy. B!2, but unfortunately as well, I am struggling to even get B12 for shots here for some reason. My pharmacist cannot get it, says that there is a shortage countrywide. Sounds like a CVS issue to me, but whatever, anyone else have this issue? I am lucky to GET any, according to him.
had blood test for b12 in September having been off work for a year with “depression”- fatigue, dizzziness, breathlessness, throbbing feet and digestive problems. Blood test was 160 on 190- 900 lab range . Doctor told me to add back fish to my vege diet and have fortified breakfast cereal. I saw a dietican privately and she thinks its not the vege diet as I have so much cheese and milk ;she thinks it more than likely malabsorption. 3 months later blood test now 199. Doctors say Ok now. However I am still easily fatigued and soles of feet still throbbing. Im seriously thinking of supplementing even though the doctor and dietician seem against it
Hi,
I think that you may want to educate yourself a tad on B12, where it is derived, etc. It is not available in nature but from red meat. So, you are not going to be able to change your diet as you are and fix this. But, you can supplement with B12 sublimigal and do it or shots. You don’t have to compromise your Vegitarian or Vegan lifestyle. However, you will have to supplement. Also, you may need other tests, the article that is associated with this blog is a great source of info. The fact that your symptoms are not better is your first red flag. The zone of ok, 190-900, is so off base, and if someone is exhibiting symptoms, a good Dr. would look at that as way low. Our own CDC has higher expectations according to age, I am turning 60 this month. So, our local lab standards of 200-900 are too low for me and in other countries, they expect in the area of 500 as a low. WIth all that said, I think another Dr.s opinion is in order maybe, but your own fatique and how bad you feel is a great yard stick.
Oh, it took about 6 months for me to bring up my b12 levels from 220-5** on 1000mcg/day.
Wow….Sometimes, shots are just the best choice if you can get them, they do not have to go into the digestive tract. I have been at this almost a year and still struggling. It is tough. I wish that I could just find a Dr. who coud help. My family dr., who I really trust, said “I had an 80 yr old guy whose B12 was 80 and we got it up to blah blah and it was ok, etc and so on” and I was just floored. I have always trusted him in every way and this was the first time that I saw something that had a really big issue. An elderly person, who had NO symptoms, according to him, and myself, ne not feeling my feet, unable to fill out a flipping expense report (I had been HIS stock broker for years), there was a distinct difference. I had so much to learn. And, I still am not up to steam.
I have never been officially diagnosed by a doctor with b12 deficiency, but I diagnosed myself when I made the best of not having a family doctor and being able to look over my blood tests themselves since they let me have them for my own records until I could find one. 220 (units) was the measure. The acceptable range on the sheets was ~170-800. I didn’t get that, along with a battery of other things tested for, to find out nothing was wrong with me; obviously something was, even if what was tested didn’t show! So I looked up every test result online, trying to find anything. Lo and behold, in north america, according to wikipedia article then, like the lab said, my b12 was fine. But if I lived in Japan, I’d be getting shots for it at anything under 400units!
I eventually settled on taking 1000mcg/day orally of cyanocobalamin for awhile. It helped some of my issues, and my b12 levels are up in the 500 area now. (But again, no doctor told me about this, I had to see the results for myself.)
Eric, seeing as you have no choice but to take cyanocobalamin orally, you should take large oral doses of it you still think you are b12 deficient. I have also *just* been diagnosed as a celiac, which means I definitely had digestion issues when I was orally supplementing with cyanocobalamin, and it was still absorbed passively through my damaged intestines, just like I thought it would. Yes, taking a larger dose is necessary when using something that has reduced absorption.
Hi,
I’ve been diagnosed with b12 deffiency since im 14, now 23. My doctor always recomended injection of once a month 1000mcg.
I see now this is most likelly not enough. Im now currently in Thailand for 1 year and all they have is the cyanocobalamin version(which also was prescribed in canada), I don’t have access to the other. Will this type suffice for now? I see that it is less effective, but would a higher dose work or am I out of luck this I get back to canada?
Chris, yes, thank you for responding. My neuro, fortunately, was very up to date on B12 and left no stone unturned. I went through your article and this site with a fine toothed comb and made sure I was checked for everything, and as to the numbness and tingling, had them rule out all metals and toxins as well. Unfortunately, that neuro was my MS Dr. and when that DX was disproved, and CIDP was found, I was sent to a different clinic at Wake Forest where this neuro specializes in neuropathy. His answer to this drop was to augment with under the tongue B12. Fine. Maybe that will keep me more steady but my thing is why. Why is it so low and why am I having so much trouble. What Dr. would specialize in this? Would it be a hematologist? or something else. I have horrible bowel issues, being told that it is most likely permanent nerve damage from the CIDP and misdx. My lumbar punch was 123 for protien. To further complicate this, I have a brain tumor in the mid brain, what is believed to be a pilocytic astrocytoma.
Yes, a hematologist – but find a good one. 10% of people with pernicious anemia don’t test positive for the antibodies. It’s entirely possible that B12 deficiency is not the main issue here, although it seems primary.
Okay, I will. Before I do, understanding that I truly have had every single thing you recommend tested and all is ok, I have lost most of the feeling in my rt foot, a lot of it in my left. Hands are going numb and tingle but are much worse after IVIG treatment, neuro says it is most likely due to nerve sheath stimulation (even though they were not so before last treatment, nor before any treatments, the tingling in hands; IVIG seems to cause it). I have insane gastro pain and issues up to passing blood only w 2 10 day hosp stays, one ischemic colitis. No one cares to find out why, ischemic does not happen for no reason. So with pernacious, would my b12 not have gone much lower than 150? My concern is why will it not stay at a decent level? No Dr. seems to share this, it is almost like, “get over it, you are over 200, take your shot and move on”. I do not share that feeling, I am more like “If I stop the shot, I feel certain I would drop like a stone down to nothing if with them I am dropping in two weeks from 1500 to 497.” Is it unreasonable to be concerned? Am I making a mountain out of a mole hill? Some things, like the brain tumor, I cannot change, and the CIDP, as the EMG tests have proved out to be absolute, as well. But, how much of my symptomology are due to CIDP, B12 and is it possible I do still have MS? I am truly in need of Dr. House.
CHRIS
One other thing, the risk mgmt team at the clinic, as this appears to be a misdx, were informed by the MS dr. who replaced the one who left and found the B12 prob, that the former dr. had monitored it and ignored it, and she felt it was possibly the root of all the problems, they are not recognizing this issue. They are maintaining that at 200, I was fine. I am so over our guidelines affecting us in America and allowing Dr.s to actually commit malpractice if they so choose. I lost my career etc over all this. Would I have not done so if he had treated me? I will never know. I have permanent damage now. From what? I do not know and the complications in my case are staggering. I just wish that I knew where to turn.
Hi Guys
I need input, again. I will try not to be long so as not to be ignored. I know it is laborous to read.
I had low B12, neuro ignored it, misdxed me w MS, watched it drop for four years. At 150, he left clinic, new Dr. caught it, began treatment, but she checked all the things we discuss here, the methyl things, But, even after a struggle to get it up to 1500, and it took a lot of muscle shots, had to stay at bi monthly for a long time, when I am ready for a new shot, at the two week mark, I am back down to 400, from 1500.
Any comments on this? I am injuecting 1ml IM every two weeks. I have CIDP, have to take treatments of IVIG infusions every two weeks now also, HATE THEM, or I cannot walk. These should not affect my B12. CHRIS, any comments>
Jan
Have you had your anti-parietal cell antibodies tested? If you have pernicious anemia, addressing the immune dysregulation is key.
Jen,
I have pernicious anemia and do not absorb cyanocobalamin or plain folic acid. I need a form of both that are already broken down and my body can absorb it. I take Folapro and methylcobalamin. My levels of B12 always showed normal but my body did not use it properly. Found out too late and have many problems now. But the methylcobalamin and folapro made a different, you might want to check this with your doctor.
Helene
thanks for your reply, I do not see my neurologist now until June will see what he says then. What makes me laugh is that I am under Neurology hospital in London and have had to do research into this myself to get anywhere. I know that my epilepsy drugs deplete my b12 and folate levels but will look into the information you suggested. I have read the book could it be a b12 and suggested to my gp to have a look at it, he was very interested but admitted that he didnt know much about b12 and that my hospital should know more about it. If you near London go to St Thomas Hospital in London for active b12 test, before I had this my gp was not interested in my results said they were normal. Will do a bit more research into your suggestions thank you.
Hi Jen,
I am in London and am going to ask for my GP to refer me to Tommy’s for the active B12 test. Have been dx with fibromyalgia and other things. Have only recently started reading up on B12 deficiency. This is a great site.
Cate
The test is worth getting done it may cost 15 or 20 pound but no one asked me for payment was told bill would be sent to me, but when I saw my gp he said that because I had a letter from my gp giving permission for the test that it was unlikely that I would be billed and the nhs would pay for it. My gp was very suprised with the results my normal test showed 252 and active showed borderline. I am just taking tablets at moment as my gp said he didnt want to just flood my body with injections. Good luck with test it may finaly get you some proper results.
Hi Jen,
Did you just take a letter from your GP to the phlebotomy dept. at Tommy’s or did you have to make an appointment? Were you tested for anything else there at the same time?
Thanks.
Hi Cate
I phoned up the hospital to let them know I was coming in for the test, click on the link I have added think it Robert you need to speak to let them know day you coming in for test. You go to get blood test done then have to go to the lab dept with the blood sample. Just handed in letter of permission from my gp for the test with sample. Robert wasnt there when I turned up so person I spoke to first said we dont do this test so I showed them the web page from my iphone and they took sample. My gp got results back within 7-10 days which was borderline hope this link helps. Also look on pernicious anaemia website which shows few other people who have gone for the test.
https://www.gsts.com/new-tests.html
I have been ill for last 6 years with undiagnosed neurological problems. I have epilepsy and had surgery for that in 1996. I had a temporal lobectomy and had part hippocampus removed. I have been on epilepsy drugs for 27 years and am currently taking tegretol and keppra. I have had nerve pain for about 10 years but it was only about 5 years ago I felt remainder of left hippocampus swelling and then shrinking when I was given steroids for asthma. Took me about 8 months after before I got taken seriously and had 1st mri which showed sclerosis of remainder of left hippocampus. I have had 2nd mri scan about 2 years later, then nerve conduction somatosensory evoked potentials and emg test last year which came back normal. I have nerve pain all over which varies from day to day and can be anything from tingling to stabbing pains I have been prescribed lyrica for this. When this started I had megaloblastic anaemia I had already been taking 5mg of folic for about 18 months as I was planning on becoming pregnant because of epilepsy drugs. I have recently had blood tests which showed elevated mcv and mch which was ignored as follow up test showed normal. 6 weeks ago I saw a different gp who said my folic acid leves where low but I refused to take it as my b12 was 252. I asked my GP for a letter to have an active b12 test from St Thomas’ Hospital in London which he agreed to. This has just shown my b12 levels are borderline and he has prescribed me cyanocobalamin 50mcg 1 twice a day and folic acid. A text book I have for epilepsy says hippocampal sclerosis can be caused by a b12 difficiancy. Is this the best drug to take or should I try to get something different. Is it more likely epilepsy or a different neuro condition like MS as last time I saw my consultant he said there got to be something causing it it a symptom not a diagnosis.
I did post yesterday but can’t see my comment. I wanted to know if having low b12 is a risk factor for deep vein thrombosis. I currently have a DVT completely out of the blue despite not having risk factors for it. My b12 is 160 and I have my repeat blood test to check this level tomorrow. I can’t see any reason for this blood clot to have former and I also can’t see any logic behind my b12 being low (take no meds other than the pill – now switched to mini pill), eat a varied diet with plenty of meat and animal products in. I’m 29 years old, had fatigue for 15 years.
Hi Chris my b12 level 160. It is being rechecked in a couple of Weeks. Last week I developed a dvt out of the blue. Im 29 no real risk factors. Does low b12 cause increased risk? Im on warfarin for six mths now and had Weeks worth of Celexane.
So, an update… and Chris – a question – PLEASE ADVICE!!!
Talked to my PCP and he changed his mind about me having a deficiency :/
Even though back in 2007 I ended up in the hospital having an attack of nystagmus & ataxia due to low B12 level of 110, and was then put on monthly B12 injections for awhile. Even though I had a metabolic imbalance 2 years ago when my PCP tried to wane me out-of B12 injections. And even though back in October-November 2011 they did new blood tests and my B12 dropped from 475 to 261 within 7-weeks of me not taking a monthly B12 shot, my PCP called me yesterday and told me that those numbers *475-261* are still within “normal” B12 range, and that I was not allowed to get more B12 monthly injections until maybe March (or 3 1/2 months later from my last shot). When I told him that in-the past I had not done well without my shots and was concerned about the over-200 drop the previous month, he said that he had a hematologist look into all my recent blood-tests, and that they did-not think that I had a deficiency. That I should just make an appointment for March 2012 and they would do a blood test and check my B12 then and see if I needed a shot then or not.
I am utterly confused, and don’t know what to do.
I can supplement myself by taking over-the-counter Metholcobalamin as I’ve been doing lately, but I’m disturbed by this development -I mean, really?!? With the last blood-test and a B12 of 261, I am now as my PCP says within “normal range” even though my B12 dropped over 200 units without a monthly shot within weeks? Do I stop taking the sublingual B12 and see really “what happens” if I just rely on my general protein/B12 intake?
I am confused, and don’t know if I should trust my PCP, or if I should change doctors. I DO NOT want to go through another metabolic imbalance or nystagmus/ataxia attack.
Is there any logic into what my PCP thinks now? Or a potential logic behind it that I do-not know? Should I play along and see what happens?
Please advice!!!
Julie
Although locked in brain sounds like my strokes it appears that is not the case according to my neurologist. This is why I am searching for all other options. My neurologist is the one that has said that it is a very distinct possibility that the neurological problems could come from B12 deficiency even though my number was 234. He said that some people can have neurological problems if their number gets below 400. Upon reading more from Dr. Kresser, I realize that maybe something beside an absorption problem is causing this. I also take acid suppressants on a daily basis and have taken Metformin in the past. I am on my way to the doctor with more information and hopefully we can work something out. My question is if in fact the acid suppressants are the culprits would it hurt to get the injections to get me back to normal?
Love your blogs. I guess I need to appreciate my health provider better as I was diagnosed B12 deficient without any push on my part and given a prescription for 1000 mcg methylcobalamin B12 sublingual daily. Trouble is life got busy and I got lazy about taking it. You have all reminded me of the importance of this as I have many health issues.
hi there
i was diagnosed with a vit b12 deficiency in september 2011. i am 29 and felt so unwell. fortunately i was started weekly injections then went onto monthly and have my last monthly one in 2 weeks then go onto the 3 montly injections. i am feeling so much better but think i will always have some lasting effects from it. i blame myself for the condition as i have had bulemia for over 10 years. i haven’t made myself sick since i found out so i suppose every cloud.
My question is that me and my husband want to start trying for another baby. should i wait a certain time and is there anything specific that i should be doing? scared of neural tube defects etc
thankyou
jillian
I’d like to point something out, i’m sure you didn’t mean to say it that way, but its incorrect.
All forms of B12 are analogues of which there are two types, active B12 and inactive B12. Inactive B12 analogue is refered to as pseudo B12 which is not biologically active but chemically looks like B12. Vitamin B12 is composed of “vitamers”. A vitamer of a vitamin is a chemical substance that shows vitamin activity.
All B12 is a cobamide, or more accurately a cobalamin. The term ‘B12’ refers to a group of vitamin compounds known as cobalamins. The B12 group of cobalamins are a member of a group of corrinoids which are a group of compounds based on the skeleton of corrin, thus B12 is sometimes refered to as a Corrinoid. The cobalamins are the best known members of the corrinoids group, thus B12 is also refered to as cobalamin. A cobalamin is a cobalt-containing complex common to all members of the B12 group. The term ‘Vitamin B12’ ,one of eight B vitamins, actually correctly refers to an entire class of water soluble coenzyme chemicals with B12 biological activity, and not specific B12 chemicals for which it is often applied incorrectly. When we say ‘cobamide’ its the singular form in reference to a specific chemical, when we say cobalamin its also singular but in reference to the group.
Both active and inactive analogues look chemically similar to each other, the difference is that active analogues are biologically active and inactive analogues aren’t.
Spirulina is said to contain Cyanocobalamin. This is frequently taken as a sign that Vitamin B12 is present, and indeed Cyanocobalamin is often called vitamin B12. However, when it comes to spirulina, these companies have played a little trick. Normally in industry Cyanocobalamin is used in fortified foods and vitamin supplements so its become common term usage to relate Cyanocobalamin to Vitamin B12 in a broad sense because its the most common analogue used for vitamin supplements so no one ever paid attention that there can also be a Cyanocobalamin that really isn’t Cyanocobalamin but rather an inactive analogue, a counterpart if you will, that will show up in tests because its chemically similar. It really doesn’t show up as Cyanocobalamin directly, actually the spirulina companies have done a little creative science – they have guessed. What happens is they have tested spirulina, the inactive analogue shows up as B12 because its chemically similar, and because they can’t find another analogue indication in the spirulina, by process of elimination they claim it to be Cyanocobalamin. In reality, Cyanocobalamin is only produced in the presence of cyanide and another B12 analogue called Hydroxocobalamin of which there is none in spirulina and the amounts of trace cyanide in any spirulina growth medium is so low that even if there was Hydroxocobalamin in the spirulina the amount of Cyanocobalamin produced would quickly be overwhelmed by its inactive counterpart. There is no way to add enough cyanide to algae growth medium even if Hydroxocobalamin were present, without actually poisioning the entire algae and thus producing poison products so no one wants to do that. If Hydroxocobalamin is not present the only “Cyanocobalamin” that can be produce is an inactive analogue. So, all this together conpires to produce only an inactive analogue that is refered to as ‘pseudovitamin B12’. A pseudovitamin is one that looks chemically like a vitamin but lacks capability (efficacy) to be bioavailable in the human body because its biologically inactive. The pseudovitamin B12 in spirulina does nothing useful in the human body.
As a side note: Its often claimed that (real) Cyanocobalamin is somehow bad. Its not actually bad. Its true that real Cyanocobalamin is not directly biologically active. Cyanocobalamin is not useful by its self in the human body (or that of any animal) and must be converted in the body to Methylcobalamin and Adenosylcobalamin active forms. The role that real Cyanocobalamin fills is that its quickly produced, can be stabalized more readily and cheaply, and can be made in large quanity more cheaply then the other forms, and thats why its used in fortified foods and supplements. Its not really less effective for general health substance delivery, its just a little more less efficient. However, its still a form of B12 analogue.
Jacko,
Cyanocobalmin is the worst possible form of cobalamin that has any activity. It is the offficial “B12” only becasue of a lab mistake in 1947-48 in identifying liver extract (55% adb12, 40% mb12, 5% misc). Most cyanob12 is excreted by the kidneys and is ther bodies preferred excretion form made from neutralizing cyanide from any source with hydroxcbl, mb12 and/or adb12. Hydroxcbl is several times more effective than cyanob12. Mb12/adb12 is 100-10,000 times more effective than cyanocblhydroxcbl. People can develope fatal deficiencies of b12 wile taking cyanocbl and/or hydroxcbl. They are both largely inactive and terrible.
I am a 62-year-old woman who some months ago started having symptoms that I could not understand. I would start talking and the words coming out of my mouth were not words at all. This happened on two occasions with no other symptoms at that time. In the meantime, I started having word finding difficulty, depression, lightheadedness and nausea. My PCP sent me to a neurologist who put me through some testing and diagnosed me as having had some strokes. They did not feel that the other symptoms were caused from the strokes as these were mini strokes. The did find that my B12 was 234 with a range of 200 to 900. The doctor ordered another test to see if I have an absorption problem, which according to my PCP came back within the normal range. It came back at 117, ranges I do not know. Also the B12 that my doctor ran two weeks after the original B12 by the neurologist came back at 186. My PCP’s office informed me that on their ranges this was normal because it was not under 180. What are the ranges? Being as the PCP will not give me injections as my levels are in the “normal range”, how much over-the-counter B12 should I take as I do not want to have permanent neurological damage from all this. I am really getting worried as I have a hard time carrying on conversations as the words are locked in my brain. Thanks for any help that you may be able to give me.
MLS … if you read everything here, you’ll find there is no evidence that taking B12 can cause any problems. I take the LifeExtension Methyl-Cobalamin 5mg once each morning. The words locked in your brain sound totally related to the mini strokes, for sure.
Chris, can you help me understand something please. I just had a full blood panel, including B12, VAP, metabolic panel, CBC, etc. From the paperwork —> Vitamin B12: 954 (200-1100 pg/mL). So, if my number is 954, that might sound high compared to a lot of other people here. However, based on other numbers in my test results, my doc said I need to up my intake of B12. Do you know why this would be? The only numbers I see that are out of line (and I don’t know what they mean) are: Creatinine: 0.55 low, Hematocrit: 45.2 high, MCV: 101.9 high, MCH: 34.3 high. Do these numbers mean anything in connection to needing to increase my B12?
Just like the previous poster, I am so tired of being tired, with no help from my PCP … even though he is a good doc. The muscle fatigue is making me crazy. Thanks for any help you can offer. Jules
He’s referring to the elevated MCV and MCH, which is often indicative of B12 deficiency. But it can also suggest folate or B6 deficiency, hypothyroidism and a number of other conditions. Another possibility is that you have a genetic mutation called MTHFR, which decreases the ability of your body to properly convert the inactive form of B12 to the active form. A number of possibilities here…
Thanks for the quick reply. So, if it were you, would you ask him to do any other tests … that could lead to me finding out why the muscle fatigue, etc? Or, are the numbers not big enough to warrant worry?
Off topic, I hope you had a wonderful holiday!
I would do more testing.
Thanks Chris!!