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A Silent Epidemic with Serious Consequences—What You Need to Know about B12 Deficiency

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Reviewed by Chris Masterjohn, PhD

This tired man rubbing his eyes may be experiencing B12 deficiency.
Fatigue is a common symptom of B12 deficiency.

What do all of these chronic diseases have in common?

  • Alzheimer’s, dementia, cognitive decline, and memory loss (collectively referred to as “aging”)
  • Multiple sclerosis (MS) and other neurological disorders
  • Mental illnesses like depression, anxiety, bipolar disorder, and psychosis
  • Cardiovascular disease
  • Learning or developmental disorders in kids
  • Autism spectrum disorder
  • Autoimmune disease and immune dysregulation
  • Cancer
  • Male and female infertility

Answer: Their signs and symptoms can all be mimicked by a vitamin B12 deficiency.

An Invisible Epidemic

B12 deficiency isn’t a bizarre, mysterious disease. It’s written about in every medical textbook, and its causes and effects are well-established in the scientific literature.

However, the condition is far more common than most healthcare practitioners and the general public realize. Data from a Tufts University study suggests that 40 percent of people between the ages of 26 and 83 have plasma B12 levels in the low normal range—a range at which many experience neurological symptoms. Nine percent had an outright nutrient deficiency, and 16 percent exhibited “near deficiency.” Most surprising to the researchers was the fact that low B12 levels were as common in younger people as they were in the elderly. (1)

That said, this type of deficiency has been estimated to affect about 40 percent of people over 60 years of age. It’s entirely possible that at least some of the symptoms we attribute to “normal” aging—such as memory loss, cognitive decline, and decreased mobility—are at least in part caused by a deficiency.

Why Is It Underdiagnosed?

B12 deficiency is significantly underdiagnosed for two reasons. First, it’s not routinely tested by most physicians. Second, the low end of the laboratory reference range is too low.

This is why most studies underestimate true levels of deficiency. Many deficient people have so-called “normal” levels of B12.

Yet, it is well-established in the scientific literature that people with B12 levels between 200 pg/mL and 350 pg/mL—levels considered “normal” in the U.S.—have clear vitamin deficiency symptoms. (2) Experts who specialize in the diagnosis and treatment of a deficiency, like Sally Pacholok, R.N., and Jeffrey Stuart, D.O., suggest treating all patients that are symptomatic and have B12 levels less than 450 pg/mL. (3) They also recommend treating patients who show normal B12 levels but also have elevated urinary methylmalonic acid (MMA), homocysteine, or holotranscobalamin, which are other markers of a deficiency in vitamin B12.

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In Japan and Europe, the lower limit for B12 is between 500 and 550 pg/mL. Those levels are associated with psychological and behavioral symptoms, such as:

  • Cognitive decline
  • Dementia
  • Memory loss (4)

Some experts have speculated that the acceptance of higher levels as normal in Japan and the willingness to treat levels considered “normal” in the U.S. explain the low rates of Alzheimer’s and dementia in that country.

What Is Vitamin B12 and Why Do You Need It?

Vitamin B12 works together with folate in the synthesis of DNA and red blood cells. It’s also involved in the production of the myelin sheath around the nerves and the conduction of nerve impulses. You can think of the brain and the nervous system as a big tangle of wires. Myelin is the insulation that protects those wires and helps them to conduct messages.

Severe B12 deficiency in conditions like pernicious anemia (an autoimmune condition where the body destroys intrinsic factor, a protein necessary for the absorption of the vitamin) used to be fatal until scientists figured out death could be prevented by feeding patients raw liver, which contains high amounts of B12. But anemia is the final stage of a deficiency. Long before anemia sets in, deficient patients will experience several other problems, including fatigue, lethargy, weakness, memory loss, and neurological and psychiatric problems.

The Stages of a Deficiency

B12 deficiency occurs in four stages, beginning with declining blood levels of the vitamin (stage I), progressing to low cellular concentrations of the vitamin (stage II), an increased blood level of homocysteine and a decreased rate of DNA synthesis (stage III), and finally, macrocytic anemia (stage IV). (5)

Common B12 Deficiency Symptoms

The signs can look like the symptoms of several other serious disorders, and the neurological effects of low B12 can be especially troubling.

Here are some of the most common vitamin B12 deficiency symptoms:

  • Tingling or numbness in the hands and feet
  • Brain fog, confusion, and memory problems
  • Depression
  • Premature aging
  • Cognitive decline
  • Anemia
  • Weakness
  • Fatigue
  • Reduced appetite and weight loss
  • Constipation
  • Trouble balancing (6)

Children can also show symptoms, including developmental issues and learning disabilities if their B12 levels are too low.

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Why Is It So Common?

The absorption of B12 is complex and involves several steps—any of which can go wrong. Any of the following can cause B12 malabsorption:

  • Intestinal dysbiosis
  • Leaky gut and gut inflammation
  • Atrophic gastritis or hypochlorhydria, or low stomach acid
  • Pernicious anemia
  • Medications, especially proton pump inhibitors (PPIs) and other acid-suppressing drugs
  • Alcohol
  • Exposure to nitrous oxide, during either surgery or recreational use

This explains why a deficiency can occur even in people eating large amounts of B12-containing animal products. In fact, many of my patients that are B12 deficient are following a Paleo diet where they eat meat two or three times daily.

Who Is at Risk for a Deficiency?

In general, the following groups are at greatest risk for a deficiency:

  • Vegetarians and vegans
  • People aged 60 or over
  • People who regularly use PPIs or acid-suppressing drugs
  • People on diabetes drugs like metformin
  • People with Crohn’s disease, ulcerative colitis, celiac, or IBS
  • Women with a history of infertility and miscarriage

Note to Vegetarians and Vegans: B12 Is Found Only in Animal Products

You cannot get B12 from plant-based sources. This vitamin is only found in animal products. That’s why vegetarians and vegans need to know the signs of deficiency—and the steps necessary to fix the problem.

B12 is the only vitamin that contains a trace element (cobalt), which is why it’s called cobalamin. Cobalamin is produced in the gut of animals. It’s the only vitamin we can’t obtain from plants or sunlight. Plants don’t need B12, so they don’t store it.

A common myth among vegetarians and vegans is that it’s possible to get B12 from plant sources like:

  • Fermented soy
  • Spirulina
  • Brewers yeast

However, plant foods said to contain B12 actually contain B12 analogs called cobamides that block the intake of and increase the need for true B12. (7) That explains why studies consistently demonstrate that up to 50 percent of long-term vegetarians and 80 percent of vegans are deficient in B12. (8, 9)

Seaweed is another commonly cited plant source of B12, but this idea is controversial. Research indicates that there may be important differences in dried versus raw purple nori; namely, raw nori may be a good source of B12, while dried nori may not be. One study indicated that the drying process used for seaweed creates B12 analogs, making it a poor source of the vitamin, while animal research suggests that dried nori can correct a B12 deficiency. (10, 11) Seaweed may provide B12, but it’s not clear if those benefits are negated when that seaweed is dried. I recommend caution for that reason.

The Impact of a Deficiency on Children

The effects of B12 deficiency on kids are especially alarming. Studies have shown that kids raised until age six on a vegan diet are still B12 deficient even years after they start eating at least some animal products. In one study, the researchers found an association between a child’s B12 status and their performance on testing measuring:

  • Spatial ability
  • Fluid intelligence
  • Short-term memory

Researchers found that formerly vegan children scored lower than their omnivorous counterparts in each area. (12)

The deficit in fluid intelligence is particularly troubling, the researchers said, because this area impacts a child’s ability to reason, work through complex problems, learn, and engage in abstract thinking. Defects in any of these areas could have long-term consequences for kids.

I recognize that there are many reasons why people choose to eat the way they do, and I respect people’s right to make their own choices. I also know that, like all parents, vegetarians and vegans want the best for their children. This is why it’s absolutely crucial for those that abstain from animal products to understand that there are no plant sources of B12 and that all vegans and most vegetarians should supplement with B12.

This is especially important for vegetarian or vegan children or pregnant women, whose need for B12 is even greater. If you’re not willing to take a dietary supplement, it may be time to think twice about your vegetarian or vegan diet.

How to Treat a Deficiency

One of the greatest tragedies of the B12 epidemic is that diagnosis and treatment are relatively easy and cheap—especially when compared to the treatment patients will need if they’re in a late stage of deficiency. A B12 test can be performed by any laboratory, and it should be covered by insurance. If you don’t have insurance, you can order it yourself from a lab like DirectLabs.com.

As always, adequate treatment depends on the underlying mechanism causing the problem. People with pernicious anemia or inflammatory gut disorders like Crohn’s disease are likely to have impaired absorption for their entire lives and will likely require B12 injections or high-dose oral cobalamin indefinitely. This may also be true for those with a severe deficiency that’s causing neurological symptoms.

Typically in the past, most B12 experts recommended injections over high-dose oral cobalamin for people with pernicious anemia and an advanced deficiency involving neurological symptoms. However, recent studies have suggested that high-dose oral or nasal administration may be as effective as injections for those with B12 malabsorption problems. (13, 14)

Try Supplementing

Cyanocobalamin is the most frequently used form of B12 supplementation in the U.S. But recent evidence suggests that hydroxocobalamin (frequently used in Europe) is superior to cyanocobalamin, and methylcobalamin may be superior to both—especially for neurological disease.

Japanese studies indicate that methylcobalamin is even more effective in treating neurological symptoms and that it may be better absorbed because it bypasses several potential problems in the B12 absorption cycle. (15, 16) On top of that, methylcobalamin provides the body with methyl groups that play a role in various biological processes important to overall health.

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Change Your Diet

Nourishing your body through whole food is the best way to get the vitamins and nutrients you need. If you’re low on B12, try eating some vitamin-rich foods like:

Eating other kinds of seafood, like octopus, fish eggs, lobster, and crab, can also help you attain normal B12 levels. If you’re seafood-averse, you can also get this vitamin from:

  • Lamb
  • Beef
  • Eggs
  • Cheese

It’s important to note, though, that the amount of B12 in these foods is nowhere near as high as the levels in shellfish and organ meats.

What to Do if You’re Experiencing Vitamin B12 Deficiency Symptoms

If you suspect you have a deficiency, the first step is to get tested. You need an accurate baseline to work from.

If you are B12 deficient, the next step is to identify the mechanism causing the deficiency. You’ll probably need help from a medical practitioner for this part. Once the mechanism is identified, the appropriate form (injection, oral, sublingual, or nasal) of supplementation, the dose, and the length of treatment can be selected.

So, next time you or someone you know is “having a senior moment,” remember: It might not be “just aging.” It could be B12 deficiency.

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  1. my daughter is 18 diagnosed with PA ten months ago following routine blood test when B12 was 99, she did not recieve intensive course of injections but went straight to 3 monthly. since then her readings have been 123, 205, and 173. she is also taking iron supplements Up till now her folic acid was ok but has recently dropped and is being monitored. The B12 lasts about 6 to 7 wks then the fatigue comes back and she reverts to sleeping patterns of 14 hours, but gp and consultant do not want to up her B12 intake. I feel that she should have been given the intensive course when diagnosed and would like her to get 2 monthly injections surely an 18 yr old sleeping 14hrs is really bad. Intrinsic factor antibodies test came back negative.

  2. Hello,

    Can anyone recommend the best sub-lingual b12 for a Crohn’s sufferer?

    Or, can anyone explain whether it is possible to obtain and self-administer injections?

    As you may guess, I don’t have health insurance….

    Thanks very much in advance, MGH

  3. Sir,
    In my case, all reports are normal but I have been told that B 12 deficiency is a problem. I have been advised to take tablets of B 12 for one month where a Doctor has said that 15 days later, observations will be done and further course of action will be decided if required.
    However, the issue is that I become pale with experiencing loss of physical power and results in dullness. If I walk, it gives me a feeling that I shall fall down. Fear is in mind and then if I don’t take physical strain, it doesn’t happen. This way, I cannot continue with my day to day schedule. How will I survive if I don’t go to my office daily because of these problems? It is disturbing me a lot and this phase has turned me down completely. Please suggest something. At this moment, I am taking Homeopathy treatment since I don’t want to go for any other type.

  4. Hi All,

    Here is a great group I found on Facebook. It is called Pernicious Anaemia Society and here is the link: https://www.facebook.com/groups/108861749243527/

    Here is an paragraph from one of their posted: (this article has many links provided that may be of interest)
    3. A research article by Scand J Haematol(l980) 25,401406 states that B12 levels are dependent on folate status. This means that a person could be folate deficient which causes the B12 level to go low. Once the person is treated with folic acid this also returns the B12 level to normal. However, if you are already deficient in B12 and getting B12 injections the artiicle may explain why it seems the injections are not working the way they should. When your folate level is low, it causes the B12 analogues (inactive B12) to increase and the cobalamin (active B12) to decrease. Inactive B12 or B12 analogues is the B12 your body cannot convert. Active B12 is the B12 your body needs and can use…Methylcobalamin and Adenosylcobalamin are the two active forms of B12 and are what your body converts cyanocobalamin and hydroxocobalamin injections to. The link to the research article is below:

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7221475

    3. Learn as much as you can about PA because most doctors are not forthcoming with information regarding PA/B12 Deficiency. You can read more on PA at the following links below:

    http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/health/health-topics/topics/prnanmia/

    http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/204930-overview

    http://www.patient.co.uk/doctor/Pernicious-Anaemia-and-B12-Deficiency.htm

    and for more information including many research articles please visit the Pernicious Anaemia Society website and click on forum:

    http://www.pernicious-anaemia-society.org

  5. I’m a 37 yr old mother of 3. Not over weight, no thyroid problems. i’ve been having numbness in my right thigh. I get up an immediately fall. This has become more frequent as of the past 3 weeks. the symptoms have included, tingling and cool feeling up my leg. tingling in feet and hands. Headache, nausea and dizziness and tiredness. I just had and MRI and MRA today. They also ran some tests… B12 204, MCH 34.3, MCV 100.3, RDW 12.1 and RBC, Auto 3.72. is this just what B12 deficiency does or could there be something else that the MRI/MRA will show?

  6. I understand that glyphosate, the active ingredient in Roundup Ready herbicide, chelates minerals in plants so that they still test as being there but are unavailable to the plant. Have we considered it’s having the same effect on humans and other animals? http://www.google.com/search?q=percentage+crops+roundup+ready&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a And now we’re going to feed roundup ready alfafa to cattle across the country.

  7. Hi, I have recently done a 24hour urine collection for B12 deficiency in the uk, I have been given the following results
    methylmalonic acid – urine 1.44 mg/l
    creatinine 1.17 g/l
    methylmalonic 1.23 mg/g crea <2.0
    acid/creatinine

    I was told I am not B12 deficient, would you agree,
    Thanks in advance

  8. Wow – what an inspirational article and blog. Great stuff Chris!

    So many people suffering from such an easily resolved problem…. I used to be one of them…

    I used to suffer UC/Crohn’s and B12 deficiency (recorded as 210) as well as cold extremities, fatigue, jaundice gallbladder problems, joint pains and breathing problems. I am back to good health now – in fact even better than it was before I got ill. I have never taken a B12 supplement and my B12 levels have gone up to over 500 now.

    Obviously B12 deficiency can cause a whole host of problems, as can zinc, magnesium or any other deficiency. When I was struggling to get well my research of the causes of B12 deficiency, digestive disturbances and chronic health conditions kept on returning to a condition called hypochlorhydria. In simple terms, a lack of stomach acidity. Achlorhydria is a total absence of stomach hydrochloric acid (HCL). Reasons for it are not certain, but I suspect levels drop as we age due to chronic stress…

    I found that by addressing the cause (restoring my digestive ph) by supplementing with “Betaine HCL” within 3 weeks my energy returned and within a month ALL my symptoms resolved. I would suggest looking into restoring gastric ph, since not only might it help increase B12 levels, it will most likelyimprove absorption of all the other minerals dependent on gastric acid and intrinsic factor!

    If stress is the cause of low gastric HCL then I suspect daily relaxation techniques such as breathing exercises and meditation could help the situation…

    To your health!

  9. Would B12 values appear normal on a blood test if large amounts of folic acid were being supplemented even if B12 was low enough to cause deficiency symptoms?

    • No, but keep in mind that blood tests for B12 are looking at cyanocobalamin, the inactive form. It’s possible to have normal levels of the inactive form, but low levels of methylcobalamin and adenosylcobalamin, the active forms. This is quite common in my practice.

  10. Do you think there is any connection with B12 deficiancy and essential tremors of the head?

  11. This is so true, I am “The Winner of Life” From a Vitamin B12 Deficiency. Please watch video below.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH-N3ktF25g&list=LLqr-QGZwhYj4cKNQBXA2qLg&index=1&feature=plpp_video

    This is My Ulcertive Colitis Success Story. (2009) due to a Vitamin B12 Deficiency.
    My wonderful son Bobby helped me wrap up my personal battle with Ulcerative Colitis in a Video. This story I hope can help one or perhaps many. I struggled for 7 years and thank my family for helping through these very hard times. We entered a contest for UC success stories and WON! My main goal is to help others if I can by sharing my story.
    I want the world to know what my life was like, why I live each day to the fullest, and count my blessings everyday!

    I also suffered during this time of 7 years with Chronic Fatigue, a Sleep Disorder, Fibromyalgia, Nerve Damage, Hair Loss, Bleeding Gums, Unexplainable Uterine Bleed, Chronic Inflation of the Bladder, High blood pressure, nerve damage and was in the process of being tested for MS.

    All symptoms have reversed. Complete remission and reversal of the nerve damage.

    It has been four years, no medications, just B12 injections. Much different than 27 pills a day, all forms of rectal medications and $7000 Remicade every six weeks.

    Thanks to a very special nurse “My Angel”.

    B12 injections $5 a month, PRICELESS…

    Edited with correct link-Thanks

    • ‎*HERE IS THE HUGE FLAW, IT IS THE FDA REGULATED B12 RANGES IN THE US*.
      The bottom line is, it is our U.S. so called “FDA NORMAL B12 LEVELS”.
      Normal values are 200 – 900 pg/mL (picograms per milliliter).

      As for China and other European Countries.
      Normal values are 500 – 1500 pg/mL (picograms per milliliter).
      They also far have less GI, Alzheimer’s, over all heath issues than Americans.

      Perfect Book-Could It Be B12?: An Epidemic of Misdiagnoses.
      Sally M. Pacholok RN (Author), Jeffrey J. Stuart DO (Author).

      In my case, once when the deficiency was discovered my blood serum B12 test was in the 180 range. At the time, I acquired a primary care doctor who started me on a 1mg injection once a week for a month, they called it a “MEGA DOSE”. After the completion I was retested. the test result was 2400, WOW RIGHT? Now you can get a 1mg injection once a month and you will be good. GREAT RIGHT? Not so fast, in the first month I could feel improvement in all the health issues I was diagnosed with. I was ill for well over ten years, with many different conditions.

      THIS WAS VERY WRONG, after 2 weeks of the super high 2400 test result, all symptoms were starting to return. I knew it would take time to get better, unfortunately I felt like I was getting worse again. So I called my PCD asking to be retested. She said NO! You just had a test result of 2400. This is when I panicked; I didn’t want to get any worse!

      I decided to call my Pulmonary Dr. who I was able to explain how my Catathrenia (Sleep disorder to this date with no know cure, B12?) sleep disorder had completely stopped for the first time in well over ten years with the B12 injections. Now it was coming back too! I asked him to check my B12 level or I was going to the emergency room for a B12 test. He checked it and results showed it had fallen in this short period of time (about 2 weeks) from 2400 down to 400. He told me we know now you need to maintain higher range for me, than the average FDA normal range. We knew more than 400 for sure. So he prescribed the injections 1mg once a week. While checking my range (that has been as low as 500 to as high as 1200 over many years) we discovered my body doesn’t maintain B12!

      So this told my Pulmonary Dr. that he needed to treat me according to my symptoms. The current FDA range is far too low and far too broad. How can we change that?

      My children age 18 (300 B12 range) and age 22 (400 B12 range) are very low in their B12 range and we CANNOT find a Doctor to help us, as my Doctor has retired. My children are not as sick as I ended up being, YET!

      I’m good, great, better than I ever dreamed. I have my life back and more!
      “I truly believe it was for a reason!”

      “WE COULD CHANGE THE WORLD!”

      Why don’t Doctors and the FDA listen?

      My video has been viewed within a couple of weeks in; 49 states and 36 different countries.

      Video Link PLEASE WATCH! http://youtu.be/CH-N3ktF25g

      Second video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EiUWPwz6Co.

      • Thanks for sharing your experience. I too have catathrenia so I’ll be getting my b12 checked for sure! My other symptoms include restless leg syndrome (something I don’t here discussed often in teh paleo-sphere), cold feet and hands and fatigue (as well as fatigues ugly twin..depression). I’ts my understanding that b12 and iron deficiencies often occur together, perhaps both levels need to be checked. Thanks again for sharing your experience.

        Jonathan

  12. This is so true, I am “The Winner of Life” From a Vitamin B12 Deficiency. Please watch video below.

    https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=WL9FCFAE102D2C2640&feature=mh_lolz

    This is My Ulcertive Colitis Success Story. (2009) due to a Vitamin B12 Deficiency.
    My wonderful son Bobby helped me wrap up my personal battle with Ulcerative Colitis in a Video. This story I hope can help one or perhaps many. I struggled for 7 years and thank my family for helping through these very hard times. We entered a contest for UC success stories and WON! My main goal is to help others if I can by sharing my story.
    I want the world to know what my life was like, why I live each day to the fullest, and count my blessings everyday!

    I also suffered during this time of 7 years with Chronic Fatigue, a Sleep Disorder, Fibromyalgia, Nerve Damage, Hair Loss, Bleeding Gums, Unexplainable Uterine Bleed, Chronic Inflation of the Bladder, High blood pressure, nerve damage and was in the process of being tested for MS.

    All symptoms have reversed. Complete remission and reversal of the nerve damage.

    It has been four years, no medications, just B12 injections. Much different than 27 pills a day, all forms of rectal medications and $7000 Remicade every six weeks.

    Thanks to a very special nurse “My Angel”.

    B12 injections $5 a month, PRICELESS…

  13. Chris – I have high LDL (just the LDL) from a year and half..I recently luckily checked my B12 and Vitamin D – they are very low. B12 155, Vitamin D 17.
    Do you see any correlation between lowB12,VitaminD and HIGH LDL? Do you think getting them to normal range with get LDL back normal?? Please help, i am currently on Statin,B12 shot and vitamin dose.

    • Kris

      I’ve had exactly the same…high LDL and virtually the same numbers for B12 and D3.

      Interesting info here:

      http://drgominak.com

      Covers sleep disorders related to both deficiency’s and also the high LDL level (in the lectures section – the slideshow in the top left)

      I’m waiting for some D3 supplements to arrive but having been on 6 spray’s a day of the Pure Advantage B12 spray for a week now and I’m noticing positive changes and improvements day after day.

      • Mark – Did your LDL come down on supplementing with B12 AND Vitamin D..i too have the pins and needles..please help me Mark.

    • Hi Kris

      I’m in exactly the same boat as you with regards to the levels of D3 / B12 and also high LDL. From all the research I’ve done I think that yes, the high LDL is a symptom of the two deficiency’s.

      Interesting info here:

      http://drgominak.com

      Also check out the top left hand presentation in the lecture section on her site.

      I think that of the two, the D3 deficiency is actually more serious.

      I’m waiting for the D3 supplement but have been taking 6 sprays a day of the Pure Advantage B12 spray and the difference in a week is amazing – I’m sleeping again and the pins and needs have gone !

      • Mark, I cannot find the post, but are you the one that wrote: “I found that by addressing the cause (restoring my digestive ph) by supplementing with “Betaine HCL” within 3 weeks my energy returned and within a month ALL my symptoms resolved. I would suggest looking into restoring gastric ph, since not only might it help increase B12 levels, it will most likelyimprove absorption of all the other minerals dependent on gastric acid and intrinsic factor!”

        Was this you? If so, can you tell me what brand of “Betaine HCL” you take, and how much?

      • hi Mark
        Did your LDL come back to normal after the b12 and vitamin D supplements? Can you share your email id?

      • Mark,

        You said you are taking b12 spray 6 times a day that is 3000 mcg a day. is it ok to take that high dose?
        Please suggest me..also how long should you take that high dose of spray?

        Pleas help

        • Hi Kris
          I’m currently taking 4-5000 mg per day via a combination of the Pure Advantage B12 Spray and Now Foods 1000mg Methyl Lozengers – I’ve also got some of the Jarrow 5000mg lozengers on the way as well.

          It’s impossible as far as I can tell to ‘overdose’ on B12 so the high level’s i’m taking daily don’t bother me at all, all I’m interested in is getting rid of the symptoms. The central sleep apnea / shudders when going to sleep have totally gone, the pins and needles are going and getting better most days and pretty much everything else has cleared up after 4 weeks of supplementing, apart from v.mild tinnitus that has appeared in the past few days (but I have noticed that symptoms mutate and change week by week – last week I kept nearly falling sleep if I touched the backside of my upper teeth with the tip of my tongue for example and this week that has totally gone). I’m also having a few concentration issues as well, BUT (and its a big but, if I look at the improvement over the past 4 weeks since I started the spray, it’s amazing, so I realise the importance of patience as well !

          I’m also eating 2 egg yolks a day, so I’m not bothered about my LDL at the moment – I just want to get my B12 levels up / get rid of the symptoms. I’m also taking 15000IU of D3 a day for the next 3 weeks and then I’ll get another D3 test (because 14.9 D3 level is dangerously low !)

          Mark

  14. Chris – this is an excellent article. I could be your poster child on this issue. I am a former vegan slowly embracing the Paleo diet. It hasn’t been a perfect transition, but neither was being vegan. As a fitness instructor, lawyer and mom of 2 young kids, I thought that my exhaustion was due to my schedule (it is part of the problem…but there was an even bigger problem). As a “seemingly healthy” role model of health and fitness, after months of testing the truth came out early last year – severe b12 deficiency requiring injections 2x per week. I am not a fan of needles, but all of a sudden I had to become very comfortable with giving myself injections. I was a prime candidate and on a path for cancer…yep – what a rude awakening. It has been a very long and challenging road. I don’t like meat and the smell of certain meats and all seafood make me want to vomit. I have serious food sensitivities that make it challenging with some of the Paleo staples and I have had digestive issues with all the “trial and error”, but I continue to move forward and embrace the changes. I started blogging about my experiences (when time permits), but am really glad that I found your site.

  15. Hi, I was just diagnosed with Lyme Disease 2 years ago. My b-12 levels have been high this long. I only take a b-complex daily. my hemoglobin, Hematocrit, MCV, and MCH are always about 2-3 point higher than normal. I’d like to know why my B-12 levels are so high. I suffer from extreme fatigue, weakness, severe anxiety I suffered for 7 years, and still present. Burning in my legs and tingling feelings at times. If I go to my primary DR what would he test for to see if I have a deficiency. Apparently, my Dr has not been so concerned that the level has been that high. Any suggestions?

    • There’s a strong correlation between Lyme and ME/CFS, which is in turn correlated with glutathione deficiency and a methylation block. Check out the Phoenix Rising forums for more on this. Anecdotal evidence suggests that treating the glutathione/methylation issue can help clear Lyme.

      • Will definitely be looking into this. I was dx with Lyme a few years back. While I caught it within 48 hrs and was put on an aggressive course of doxy, I never felt right after. Eventually I asked for B12 testing and got a serum value of 90. By then, I’d been dealing with CF for a couple of years. While they didn’t dx me with clinical CFS, I was sleeping 10-11 hrs at night and falling asleep at the law firm during the day. My lunches were a 5 minute drive to a local trail where I parked the car and slept for an hour. I’d set a timer to wake me up to return to work. When the med estblishment referred me to Pysch for my fatigue, I found Paleo, It has given me back most of my energy. I sleep 9 hrs every night now but actually wake feeling refreshed. Naps are a thing of the past. I can hike without fatigure but can’t do HIT or work my muscles to fatigue or else I’ll crash for days. ? adrenal fatigue? Your suggestion of changing cyano B12 to methyl B12 also took care of my leg neuropthay. So thanks for sharing so new info that may, or may not, apply to me.

  16. Is it true that if one has a vitamin B12 deficiency that the half white moons above the cuticles of their fingernails are missing? A nutritionist with whom I spoke said that this was indicative of a vitamin B12 deficiency. If so, does this indicate a major deficiency? I can’t afford to get vitamin B12 shots, but strongly suspect, given some of the other symptoms I have (depression, compromised cognitive fuctioning, lethary, shortness of breath, and overall not feeling well) that I have it. Not the case currently, a former doctor wanted me to have regular monthly, bi-monthly, or weekly vitamin B12 shots a few years back. (I had maybe two, but felt no relief whatsoever after both injections). If you think I have a B12 deficiency, would you recommend that I supplement sublingually with methylcobalamin. If so, with how much, and, do you recommend any particular brands? And, being a water soluble vitamin, is it possible to get too much vitamin B12?

    • Urinary methylmalonic acid, along with serum B12, are the best ways to determine B12 deficiency.

      • Thank you Chris for getting back to me about this.

        Do you know of any laboratory company I could order such tests from? Due to financial reasons, I’m not currently under the care of a doctor.

        Also, can a vitamin B12 deficiency cause hypothyroidism and gluten intolerance? It was thought at one time that I was hypothyroid (really, its just reverse T3 dominance and adrenal fatigue syndrome) as well as anemic. However, I am gluten-sensitive.

        Veronica

        • You can check directlabs.com and privatemdlabs.com. You can order blood tests directly from them.

  17. Hi, I was found to have a b12 of 160. I have major fatigue issues, dizziness, migraines and sensitive eyes dating back many years. I had test dose of hydroxy – b12 plus 5 full shots every two to three days. I was so hoping to feel a lot better but actually a lot of things got worse. I had numbness and tingling most of night after first full shot, plus constant thrist and weeing which settled. I had had an eye twitch in one eye the whole time I have been getting the shots and initially was even tireder. After 3rd shot I found I am now more alert, when I wake in morning I feel awake within 5 mins rather than 45 and I have stayed up later without nodding off. But still have symptoms.

    Is this normal? Would I be best trying methylcobalamin? Friend of mine had that and said big improvement quickly . Are 3 monthly injections ok from now?

  18. I had bloodwork with B12 deficiency 2 months ago but doctor didn’t give recommendation. I take a B12 daily. 2 days ago went and had bloodwork. My B12 level is 21. Haven’t spoken with this doctor yet just got blood levels back from office. Got me pretty worried. Just checking around different websites over the weekend so I can get all worked up!!!!

  19. I was tested about 5 years ago and my B12 level was in the 200’s. I was recently retested and it is not at 388. I has gone up, but I still have many of the symptoms and I also have several family members who are being treated with the deficiency. However, my doctor won’t give me the shots because she said my levels are within the normal range. I am very frustrated, and sick and tired of being sick and tired. What should I do?

    • There are better ways to treat it than injections now. Feel free to make an appt to discuss.

  20. I have read information on the internet in regards to Subacute Combined Degeneration of the Spinal Cord, which I was diagnosed with in Nov/10. Have posted here before but always searching for info regarding B12 deficiency and SCD since B12 def. diagnosis in Dec/09.

    I would like to know if Chris or anyone has any info to share on SCD.
    Thanks!