Despite the widespread use of these prescription drugs (globally, this is a $14 billion business), antidepressants can have potentially negative effects on your health. (3) While they are life-saving for some, for others these medications can trigger side effects and symptoms that can disrupt normal routines, or they may be ineffective at alleviating depression. Keep reading to find out more about potential issues with antidepressants and learn how the Functional Medicine approach to psychiatry can help.
Antidepressants are life-saving for some; for others, they can cause negative side effects or fail to alleviate symptoms of depression. Check out this article for an updated look at antidepressants.
What Really Causes Depression (and What’s Wrong with the Chemical Imbalance Theory)?
Conventional medicine and the pharmaceutical companies have long maintained that depression is caused by an imbalance in brain chemicals. That’s why antidepressant meds are formulated to manipulate the levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. There are several classes of these drugs, including:
- Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs)
- Serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs)
- Tricyclic antidepressants
- Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs)
- Atypical antidepressants
However, depression isn’t adequately characterized by “low serotonin” or “low epinephrine.” In fact, only about 25 percent of people diagnosed with depression have abnormally low levels of these neurotransmitters, while some have very high levels of them. (4) Although these facts don’t rule out chemical imbalance as a factor in depression, they do suggest that it’s not the only one.
In reality, depression may be a symptom of one or more underlying issues. I discussed in a previous article how inflammation may be at the root of many cases of depression, (5) but other causes of mental health issues can include:
- Pathogens
- Faulty gut–brain axis signaling (6)
- Gut dysbiosis and/or intestinal permeability (6, 7)
- Trauma (8)
- Loneliness
- HPA-axis dysregulation (9, 10)
- Nutritional deficiencies (11)
Any treatment plan that fails to address these underlying causes isn’t likely to be effective for someone who is suffering from depression. That’s why it’s so important to move beyond the default chemical imbalance explanation and understand what’s really driving the condition.
Antidepressants May Not Be as Effective as You Might Think
Important disclaimer: If you are currently taking an antidepressant, do not stop abruptly and do not taper off the meds without the guidance and support of your healthcare providers. I’ll discuss more about how to taper off of medication below, but it is crucial that you do not undertake any steps without consulting closely with your doctor.
Given the hype surrounding antidepressants, you may be surprised to learn initial treatment is effective at mitigating symptoms only about half the time. (12) Even after trying several treatments, up to 30 percent of those with depression never achieve remission. (13)
While a large meta-analysis published in 2018 in the prestigious journal, The Lancet, states that all antidepressants perform significantly better than placebo, (14) critics have pointed out that these differences are small and not clinically relevant. (15) The majority of high-quality research studies have shown that SSRIs have no benefit over placebo for mild and moderate depression. (16, 17, 18, 19)
One Problem: Clinical Trial Groups Are Not Representative of Real-World People
One major issue with the research on antidepressant efficacy is the selection process of clinical trial group participants. Because the selection process is not standardized or subject to any federal guidelines, patients with milder forms of depression, chronic depression, or other psychiatric or medical conditions in addition to short-term depression are excluded from studies. (20) In some cases, less than 20 percent of people who apply to be part of an antidepressant efficacy trial do not meet the requirements, meaning that study groups are not representative of a real-world population. (21)
Here is why such exclusions matter: In a normal, clinical setting, many patients with depression have other illnesses, such as diabetes, chronic fatigue syndrome, or irritable bowel syndrome. It’s not unusual for them to have anxiety and insomnia, as well. In fact, it’s quite possible that a person with depression might be suffering from other conditions that are either contributing to or caused by their illness.
One study looked at the efficacy of antidepressants in those who did not meet phase III inclusion criteria (phase III clinical trials include and exclude participants based on stringent criteria that would actually exclude the majority of people who take the drugs in real life). Among participants who would not qualify under phase III criteria, researchers found that their outcomes were, unsurprisingly, much worse than those who did qualify for the trials. (22)
It’s important to note the wide variability in individual response to antidepressants. SSRIs and other antidepressants can be game changers for many people, but the reported average response rate in clinical trials won’t shed any light on how one person reacts to a medication versus another individual. However, what’s clear is that these drugs are not a panacea for global mental illness, and that this is a complex topic.
Two Drug-Free Treatments That Can Be as Effective as or More Effective Than Antidepressants
Another important detail to note is that non-pharmaceutical treatments can be as effective or even more effective than antidepressants. Evidence shows promising results for psychotherapy and exercise as effective interventions.
1. Psychotherapy
Substantial evidence demonstrates that psychotherapies, like cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT), are just as effective as antidepressants for long-term maintenance, for first-line treatment, and even for treatment-resistant depression. (23, 24, 25, 26, 27) In some cases, psychotherapy has actually outperformed antidepressants or added additional benefit to medication. (28, 29, 30)
CBT also might reduce the risk of depression relapse, which is very common. (31, 32) If you’ve had depression once, your risk of developing depression again is about 50 percent. If you’ve had two episodes, you’re 80 percent likely to relapse. (33, 34)
CBT may offer unique skills for preventing relapse. As one review from 2017 states: (35)
“Residual symptoms and relapse risk would decrease if patients in partial or full remission can learn, first, to be more aware of negative thoughts and feelings at times of potential relapse/recurrence, and, second, to respond to those thoughts and feelings in ways that allow them to disengage from ruminative depressive processing.”
2. Exercise
Exercise may be powerful for preventing and alleviating depression. Exercise has mood-boosting effects and can decrease inflammation, improve vagal tone, and modulate neurotransmitters, all of which can help decrease depressive symptoms. (36, 37)
Although not all studies are in agreement, (38) many clinical trials and meta-analyses have determined that exercise can be helpful as an adjunct to antidepressants, or even by itself. (39, 40, 41, 42) Of note, people who already have depression may not have enough motivation and energy to start an exercise regimen, especially on their own. However, perhaps surprisingly, drop-out rates among those who participate in exercise groups generally aren’t higher than drop-out rates for other types of treatments. (43) As exercise boasts numerous health benefits beyond mood improvement, it’s worth considering.
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Negative Side Effects of Antidepressants
Side effects are quite common for people who take antidepressants. More than half of those beginning an antidepressant have one of the more common side effects: (44)
- Nausea
- Decreased libido (very common, especially among men: up to 40 percent taking antidepressants experience this side effect)
- Tiredness and/or insomnia
- Dry mouth
- Constipation
- Dizziness
- Anxiety
- Weight gain
- Sweating
While some of the side effects listed above are manageable and won’t cause serious or long-term health complications, others, such as weight gain or anxiety, may—especially if they persist.
Jitteriness Syndrome, Anxiety, and Akathisia
In the first few months of beginning an antidepressant, “jitteriness syndrome” and anxiety are common side effects. Up to one in four people will experience jitteriness syndrome, and studies have reported a wide range of anxiety incidence related to beginning antidepressants, from 4 to 65 percent. (45) Frequently, those who show anxiety are then prescribed another medication, like a benzodiazepine, with its own risks.
In rare cases, a particular type of severe agitation called akathisia may occur. (46) Akathisia has been shown to increase aggression, violent behavior, and suicide.
Suicide
In 2004, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a black-box warning that antidepressants may increase suicidal ideation and attempts in children. A couple years later, they extended the warning to include those up to age 25 and also stated that patients of all ages should be monitored for suicidal ideation, plans, and/or attempts. (47)
The studies surrounding suicide and antidepressants are mixed. Some studies have shown higher suicidal behavior in adults and children (48, 49, 50, 51), while others haven’t. (52, 53) Published FDA investigations state that those under age 25 taking antidepressants have about twice the rate of suicidal behavior compared to those taking placebo. (54, 55) SSRI users might be more at risk than users of other classes of antidepressants, and suicide risk seems highest in the first month starting and stopping the meds. (59)
In general, post-2000 studies show lower rates of suicide among antidepressant trials, despite the fact that suicides have increased since then. (60) Some claim that the earlier studies were flawed or that suicidal ideation is better monitored during trials, but others say that the lower rates in recent studies are due to “enhanced screening procedures and effective exclusion of suicidal patients in clinical trials for depression.” (61) To me, that explanation is far from reassuring. The fact remains that individuals who are actually suicidal will be prescribed antidepressants, but robust studies looking at the efficacy of meds in this population just don’t exist.
Other Side Effects
Other side effects can occur with antidepressants, though some still aren’t well-characterized and many are rare: (62, 63, 64, 65)
- Numbness or anti-motivational syndrome
- Interactions with other drugs (ibuprofen and SSRIs don’t mix, for example) (66)
- Depletion of beneficial gut bacteria (antidepressants have antimicrobial properties)
- Osteoporosis
- Cardiovascular issues
- Personality changes
- Gastrointestinal symptoms including diarrhea, gastrointestinal bleeding, and dyspepsia (for which antacids may be prescribed)
- Birth defects
- Liver injury (very rare)
As with any medication, adequate risks/benefits must be taken into consideration. Even when experiencing side effects, stopping antidepressants needs to be done under the guidance of a healthcare provider.
Weaning off Antidepressants Is Difficult
Antidepressants were intended for short-term treatment of depression, but in actuality, people are taking them continuously for years on end. Half of American antidepressant users have been on them for more than five years, though long-term data on effectiveness and safety are sparse. (67) A review of 14 studies on long-term depression treatment indicated that patients who were treated with drugs fared no better than those who weren’t treated with drugs long-term. (68) In another study of people with depression and on antidepressants for over two years, the patients who did not take drugs after remission had a lower rate of remission compared to those who did. (69)
A big reason that people stay on antidepressants long-term is simply this: Withdrawal symptoms make it very difficult to stop. In a systematic review of patients trying to wean off antidepressants, 46 percent of the participants described withdrawal effects as “severe.” (70) Common withdrawal symptoms include:
- Dizziness
- Fatigue
- Irritability
- Confusion
- Insomnia
- Relapse of depression
Slowly Tapering off Antidepressants Is More Successful Than Current Recommendations
One major problem is that patients are weaning off antidepressants too quickly—often at their doctors’ orders. The prevailing recommendation is to wean off completely in a period of two to four weeks. (71) However, evidence demonstrates that decreasing the dose over a much longer period of time results in much lower rates of side effects and results in more consistent levels of neurotransmitters, as imaged by positron emission tomography scans. (72) Several studies have shown the benefits of tapering more slowly (73, 74, 75) including one study that found that patients who slowly came off an SSRI over an average of 38 weeks had only a 6 percent chance of withdrawal syndrome, compared to a 78 percent chance in the group who stopped quickly. (75)
Tapering slowly may take longer, but it’s much more likely to be effective. (76)
The Functional Psychiatry Solution
Do antidepressants have a place in treating depression? As I said above, for some people, they can be game changers. But they don’t work for everyone, and they will not address any underlying issues that are causing or contributing to depressive symptoms.
A better approach to depression and other mental health issues is the functional psychiatry solution, which treats the root cause of a disorder rather than masking symptoms with prescription drugs.
Using a holistic approach, a functional psychiatry approach to depression may involve interventions such as:
- Metabolic testing
- Psychotherapy
- Dietary interventions
- Stress management
- And more
By addressing the true underlying causes of depression, the functional psychiatry approach can improve long-term outcomes for people with depression, giving them relief from their symptoms without the addition of any negative effects of antidepressants.
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Hi Chris,
Do you think all ADs are created equal when it comes to the bad effects? I see references in your articles to some AD brands and not others. For example, I take Cymbalta (well actually, the generic equivalent now, Duloxetine) and have been on it for about 5 years now. I have to say that I feel tremendously better and, for me, the side effects seem minor. Remembering what it was like for me before Cymbalta gives me the shudders – I don’t want to go back there. It would be hard to give up my Duloxetine now if I learned it was having slow insidious effects on my internal organs. So my question is, would you ever do a deep dive on a particular drug like Cymbalta/Duloxetine or could you point me to objective data I could understand to learn about it? Thank you.
If you suffer from depression please read this and pass on. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/03/07/reversing-depression-without-antidepressants.aspx
for severe cases you need them but try to withdraw them as soon as you begin to feel right as surely they have infinite side effects hurting physically and mentally and affecting each and every part of your body.but can anyone tell whether depression due to excessive masturbation is treatable or not when one has done it for 3 to 4 years excessively or whether excessive sexual thoughts are under depressive treatment or what kind of treatment do they require
I hate meds. I have been on a lot at a young age and I advise NOT letting doctors push new ones on you all the time, I was a minor and really had no choice. I have been on a few (not complete list): Lexapro, Zoloft, Prozac, Abilify, Xanx, Clonidine, Vicodin ES, Seroquel XR…and many more and I truly believe they hinder more than help. Since I have stopped them I see that they changed me, YET I am much better off without them.
Hi everyone I am in my fourth month of getting off of advin vicdon wellbrution lexpro and many more antidepressants randomly taken omg I am so sorry I ever started Jus las week I weakened and decided to take clexa and nuertion hoping to get some happiness and motivation back and physically YUCK it feels so awful side effects I am 64 and I guess its time I suck it up also I am retiring and that is a huge adjustment for a workaholic so what do I expect but so glad I’m not alone thanks everyone for your support and storys
i would like to advise anyone on AD’s to taper off at a rate of 10% every 4-5 weeks. This sounds ridiculous but trust me, coming off faster can result in severe anxiety, akathesia, depression, disorientation, a sense of fear you never knew before about just about anything and everything) and a host of physical symptoms as well. Not only that but these symptoms can wait several months to occur, leading one to believe they are pre existing conditions, when in fact they are delayed “withdrawal” symptoms and nothing more. Ive been through it, and as slow as the recovery is, you WILL recover. For support there is a wonderful forum, called http://www.paxilprogress.org. HIGHLY recommend it as a source of comfort, hope and alternative healing, plus invaluable advise on how to safely taper AD’s. It can be done. Have hope.
Hi Everyone,
Thank you for the opportunity to write: I am 38 and just started my 6th different AD in one year – Zoloft this time – I have taken it for 2 days and have the worst acid reflux ever….I get it with every AD I have taken – I just want to feel happy instead of so pathetic and I decided that if I had to take a pill to do it then I would but I can’t even do that – also tk.errified of weight gain. My brother committed suicide 2 years ago and I am frightened I may go down that slippery slope which is why I sought help – except it is not helping. Surely there must be an AD that does not cause this pain? I take Omezeraploe to counter act the acid but it doesn’t work. Any ideas gratefully received. Best wishes to you all out there, nice to know that I am not alone….I smile and act happy but inside I am dark.
Hello,
I have been on SSRI’s since 1998. I have had a panic disorder since I was 8 yrs old and didn’t get help until I was in my 20’s. Paxil was my first SSRI. I thought it was a super drug. I could talk to people, go outside by myself and not feel horrible. But then the first side effect happened. 30 lbs of weight gain in 4 months. I didn’t change anything, I was still doing everything I did prior to meds to keep my weight “normal” for me.
My doc was not happy with the weight gain and put me on Effexor. I took this evil drug for 7 years. I started to get the brain shocks that felt like electricity going thru my head if I missed a dose or took it later than normal. Then I noticed I had ZERO sex drive. The weight was still holding on even with more exercise and eating good. I decided to go off the drugs. It took 3 months of cutting back and then another year of clean living to make the brain shocks go away. I was miserable, had more panic then I did without the meds before 1998.
A few years later, I decided I needed help with my Panic. I commute far and cross a bridge that gets my panic going some days. I saw a new shrink and he was sure that Lexapro was the one. Lexapro with a Xanax chaser. I have been doing this for 2 years and now I am ready to go natural. SSRI’s are temporary fixes. The long term side effects are not worth the suffering.
I am terrified to get off the meds, but I need my life back. I feel like a prisoner in my own body. now I am 60 lbs heavier and with Running, hiking, biking, walking and good diet, I have not lost a pound. I want my real life back. I want to feel passion for living.
Reading this article and posts of others going thru the same issues makes me realize that I can do this. We all deserve a better quality of life. Docs are so pill happy. And like I said , it’s a quick fix. It never sticks around.
I wish us all good luck, happiness and love in our journey.
Hi All,
I’ve been on and off SSRI’s for the past 15 years. This time around it’s been about 2 years on. I’m out of the clear with all the craziness that put me there mentally and now is a better time than ever to clean my system out. I tapered off over 1 month. It has been 14 days completely off. I still feel terrible physically. Not to mention my irritability, mood swings, feeling like I’m crawling out of my skin and just a miserable person to be around period. I want to jump down everyone’s throats and I can’t stand myself. The brain shocks are awful too. I gained 30lbs as well. One thing I did find many years back that helps with the brain shocks is motion sickness meds! Huge, this helps. But now I’m so sick of putting other things in my body to recoup from the side effects. It is so horrible. I’m just going to hang in there and fight this one way or another. I picked up several supplements as well. I think I’m just going to go natural and discontinue everything and drink a lot of water, juice fresh fruits and vegies, cleanse colon and liver and work out a couple hours a day for the next 10 days since I’m off work for the holidays I can do this. I’m scared that my brain receptors relying on the meds, then removing them can cause damage and not function normally ever again. That to me sounds logical, maybe logic is the best answer. My logic tells me NEVER AGAIN will I go near meds like this.
I had panic attacks all through my late 20’s and early 30’s. Thank God I was never prescribed any drugs for it. I later discovered that I had an intolerance to dairy, which had been contributing significantly to a negative, fearful state of mind. Hard to believe that something so common can cause feelings of intense anxiety, anger and insecurity, but it does happen. Since eliminating dairy and some other foods and supplementing with all of the required vitamins and minerals, I am a new person! Now in my 60’s, I feel better now than at any other time in my life.
Here is one resource I have found incredibly helpful:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html
I had panic attacks all through my late 20’s and early 30’s. Thank God I was never prescribed any drugs for it. I later discovered that I had an intolerance to dairy, which had been contributing significantly to a negative, fearful state of mind. Hard to believe that something so common can cause feelings of intense anxiety, anger and insecurity, but it does happen. Since eliminating dairy and some other foods and supplementing with all of the required vitamins and minerals, I am a new person! Now in my 60’s, I feel better now than at any other time in my life.
I have a friend who has been on SSRI’s for a long time. She is now having problems swallowing food and is going to the doctor for an exam. They, of course, want to put her on an acid blocker, which has dire consequences on it’s own. I’m praying that she will find someone to help her get off all prescription drugs.
Here is one resource I have found incredibly helpful:
http://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html
Did your libido recover eventually?
Alex,
pssd sufferer
Just saw recent comments about undoing what SSRIs have done. I have been on 3 different medications in the past 10 years. I can see how they have changed me but I am also learning a lot about how to strengthen my own nervous system with nutritional supplements and I am off anti depressants even though there are difficult times and facing into winter and christmas… yuk. Magnesium supplement of 800mg per day… Vit B Complex and Spirulina tablets are on my daily in take and I am pushing through. Have a look also at http://www.credence.org to see if there is anything that can help you strengthen your nervous system too If we are not getting the vits and minerals we need our ability to have healthy nerves and brains will affect the chemistry of our moods. I dont mean to simplify it. Believe me, I have struggled through the lowest of times with suicidal ideation. Just sharing what might help others… Dee
Chris. Thank you so much for this invaluable post! I have been following your work for several years now and am so grateful for all that I have learned from you!
What can be done to help those who have taken SSRI’s long-term and are trying to do what they can on their own? I have been on a myriad of different SSRI medications for several years and just weened myself off of Celexa last month. I’m frightened at what these meds have done to my neurological system as well as the rest of my body. Any advice you can offer will be greatly appreciated! Thank you so much!
Hi,
Just wondering….did your libido recover eventually?
Alex,
pssd sufferer
I’m a woman, so I don’t know how SSRI’s affect a male body, but I am so so so happy to report that after 2 months completely off Effexor (after a 7-month taper) and 6 weeks after going off hormonal birth control, I have gotten my sexual functions back (or started – I was a teenager when I was put on AD’s so I never knew what I was missing, only that it wasn’t all it was cracked up to be!) I am still on Wellbutrin, which is said to have less side effects on your libido. but who knows the possibilities when I finally get off that!?
So two words of advice: I was *this* close to going back on Effexor because the withdrawal was so bad, but during a small window of opportunity when I wasn’t feeling like a total &!tch and my husband actually wanted me, I had my first orgasm… and my body screamed “Don’t you EVER EVER EVER go back on Effexor!!!!” 😀
Second: I was also on hormonal birth control since I was a teenager for irregular periods. I’m sure the two drugs together really confused my body, and I was only able to start untangling the side effects when I went off one by one and replaced the drugs with natural supplements (as advised by a N.D, i do not recommend self-medicating based on internet studies!) So if you’re going to fix your bodily systems to go off AD’s, I urge you to consider everything else you are taking or could be affecting the balance of your systems.
Thank you so much for the hope. I tried on two occasions to stop and did for a 3 month duration. Both times it was cold turkey, and libido was a total ZERO during those 3 months. Maybe I need to wait more after I complete my current taper to recover.
At least, there are hopeful stories around. Unfortunately, there are also many tragic ones as well….
I have explained a little how I did it on these comments, if you press CTRL F it will open a “find” box in the top right corner of your browser and you can search my name (JeDa or JeD) to find my comments. I was just told by my counselor that I am the first person she knows to successfully come off Effexor – all her other clients gave up! So, while I’m still on the long journey, I am feeling better, and have so much more HOPE, that I just want to tell the world!!!
Hit 3 months and everything crashed 🙁 Took some Effexor this morning to try and stop the shaking. What good is a libido when you’re a mess, your spouse is worried, scared, frustrated, and you both want to murder the people at Pfizer?
Hi all
Is there any way out to reverse these effects?? If some has an idea it may help thousands of victims to recover
Yes, time and acceptance.
Hi I was on cipralex for 10 days and developed PGAD (Persistant genital arousal disorder). Its been two years and I still have it. I was fine before I took the drug and now have this chronic life altering condition. I only took the SSRI as my sleep was suffering from a stressful time in my life and now looking back I would have rather never slept a day in my life than to have PGAD. I will never take another SSRI drug EVER AGAIN!!! I warn people of these drugs they are serious brain altering chemicals.
I’m one of the many who were introduced to these drugs in the early 1990’s.I was on them for better than ten years, I loathe these drugs and the companies who push them. I was on a revolving cocktail of antidepresants and anti seizure meds for better than ten years. My body and mind are not what they were. I’ve had severe neurological problems, weight and digestive issues, chronic depression and an inability to move on with my life. I’ve done extensive research in what to do for my condition and I’ve come up with my own protocals for what ails me but I know that the person I was is no more. I’m 13 years down the line from those drugs and while I can pass through my days fairly quietly, there is no rest from the internal struggle of having a life that I can’t say I’m in love with anymore. Doctors are useless to me as they haven’t come to grips with the poison they’re shelling out or they don’t like a patient who knows the subject better than they do. I’m doing the best that I can but my prognosis is unknowable. My right side is weak. I have chronic muscle spasms and the meridians on my right side are damaged. And now that menopause is on me, that is bringing up all kinds of ramifications. It’s a lot like patching a leaky dam. You lock down one thing and another starts. I am glad that someone is tackling the subject out there. I’ve tried to warn others about these drugs but I’ve been told to go to hell. These things rob you of your life. Thanks for letting me vent.
I wish I had nver taken any form of medications, I know
I always had emotional problems and suffer with bpd, but I found that taking those pills was like laying my self a life sentence, my brain got worse so did my mentality, ok I cope much better but If I nver took them I know that I’d b screwed its like it injected mental health problems in my brain in order for me to be stook on theese things for ever, my mind goes crazy if I dont take them, its so sad :[
its wat they call a vicious circle sharon once they get you on sumtin the chances of you gettin off it becum slim,and ur rite they in alot of cases make u worse and way more dependent on more meds, its horrible ive seen these dopes destroyin good people for so long and wen i started investigating it because my own family was destroyed over ssri’s i found dat ders thousands of site like dis wit millions of women men and even kids on them saying the same as you and me, its sick i think they want the whole world strung out on medical grade drugs because addicts r easier to manage
During my one year on Lexapro I reached a point where I had so much joint pain I could hardly drive. Doctors at the time did now want to acknowledge a link with the anti depressant. But I also had very severe perspiration and looking back a lot of moisture was being pulled from my body, obviously also synovial joint fluid. But getting anyone to acknowledge this medically would be hard. Now, 10 years on I am fighting arthritic joint pain and could hardly walk in the summer. What is helping to fight this now and be able to walk is taking a supplement that contains Omega 3, Copper, Turmeric and Ginger. I wear copper insoles and also eat ginger on a daily basis in addition to the supplements. I reckon this is what is enabling me to walk and reduce pain.
hi everyone,
im looking for any help anyone can give me, my boyfriend was put on valdoxan for 4 months and they turned him into a zombie so our gp put him on citalopram for the last 10 months and hes horrible on them the doctor wont listen to anything i say because to look at my boyfriend now he looks great and hes now so sociable and out going, that he tells her its just me amd to ignore me, but we hav the most beautifull 4 year old daughter dat he luved and done everything withand he hasnt seen her in nearly 6 months he jus drinks wit his new friends instead now who are the type of people he used to describe as scum, he has left us so many times for days with no food no money while he wemt off on one and when he came home he was shocled that i had a problem wit it, and now if i open my mouth he flys into a rage i cant leave him like this he was a gentleman to me and a great dad to our baby and it all stopped as soon as he got them pills ive known him for so long and i loved him so much this is simply down to them pills, please if anyone can help please get back to me i need to get rid of them pills and dont no how.
If you and your kid are still with us you are lucky. Take care of what you can take of—-you and her. ‘ “Flying off into a rage” well YOU KNOW.
Please have someone read what you’ve posted out loud to you then maybe you’ll get it.
Hi and thanks Wesley
for your caring comment,
I no exactly what you mean
but its not that im in love with him and hav’nt got the sense to run,hes broken my heart in the last year so much that theres no future for us even if he turned back into his old self again,
its all about our daughter
Emma if i left he would still be granted access in court and then i just wouldnt be here when she was if she needed me and the thoughts of that rip me up inside, what i mean simple is this, when hes off the meds and please god back to himself ill still have to leave because i cant forget or forgive the things hes done the things he said were evil and the things he done much worse, But on friday nite 08/11 he was brought to hospital he was out partying again full of illegal class a drugs and he had a heart attack anyway i told the doctor on shift our whole story and how he had never touuched a drug previous to being put on Citalopram and how it had changed him and the doc said he would discontinue that medication so ill keep you posted but once again thank you for ur caring note.
i feel so so sorry for everyone on this page,
my god i had the best christmas and new year,
we’ve been out for walk almost everyday with our baby and life seems to be great again hes distanced himself from all the people he befriended wen he took those evil tablets he even stared to look for a new job but i had to tell him to relax for a while first or he would end up back in hospital, but he said we need the money because weddings arent cheap and that he wants a better life for us and emma,
i wish i could hug each and everyone of you because i still wasnt certain 100% that it was the medication “citalopram” maybe he jus went of us or was going thru a change but it wasnt it was those tablets, please all of you stay strong and believe that they wont be on them forever, once the tablets go they will be back to you almost instantly, i thought i was goin insane and it was me even but it wasnt we are all correct on here those tablets are evil, he has cried and apologises every day he said its like looking at life going on thru someone elses eyes and the only thing that your interezted in is you he said the 2 feelings you have left are greed and anger so so true because i seen those in him all the time II pray to god r whoever that you all catch my luck and this horrible thing you are all going thru ends quickly for you all,
I wish you all the very best and thanks X
About 14 years ago I had been put on an antidepressant. I dont remember the time span but my ex wife said it was more than a year. Doctors would add meds to the list of what i was taking and, though she has passed away and the records with her, my mother told me several years later that i was give 13 different meds at one time. It was a horrific time in my life and i lost everything i loved, wife, daughters, a business and my whole life. i checked myself into a psych hospital in early 2002, one of multiple extended stays, and was lucky enough to have been seen by the chief of psychiatry. He took me off of all the meds and within 6 months i was back to my old self minus my previous life. while living in England i began having difficulty walking in 2006. a year of testing brought the doctors to the diagnosis of Neuromyatonia. I came back to the states in 08 and as of 1 year ago my health has been deteriorating. i had been seen by a neurologist at Indiana university and she had a theory that the meds i was being prescribed back in 2000-2002 may have been the cause.
My question is, and my new neurologist is looking for reasons, could this be the case.
PLEASE HELP
Depression is a very real and common occurrence in our society today. As our society has become increasingly competitive, stressful and busy, more and more people are struggling to cope with the mounting pressure on their lives. I take Tranquilene to treat my depression and it really works. It helped me to relive my anxiety. You can know more about this antidepressant here http://bit.ly/1C1Ifn0
I appreciate all that is written here. Instinctively, I have not liked anti-depressants and the few times in past I went on them for anxiety, they made me panic and I hated the experience. Despite what doctors dismissing my feelings on how they made me feel, my problems didn’t amount to enough to stay on them.
I wish i could say that was the end of it but it was not. After a major life event (one that includes a life-ending disease), I had a major bout of depression. I tried to avoid anti-depressants and certainly cannot say I was “well” but I went to counselling and I went to a stop-smoking clinic and was trying to get well despite a pretty bad prognosis I would forever have to live with. I spoke with an NHS assessor and he suggested anti-depressants and as I wasn’t well, I thought I’d try them again. Big mistake – I think anyways. I panicked badly, was shaking, not sleeping and with a whole lot of real problems, it was pretty bad. I had to get off of that prescription and move to a lesser one. Which I did but the shock of that experience stayed with me and for an already depressed person, this was an event that put my vulnerable system through h*ll and, I feel, made my journey that much harder. During those first few stages of the 1st meds and getting onto the 2nd, all stop smoking well stopped, in point of fact I went from a 4 a day smoker, who was trying to quit…to someone who cleared about 400 cigarettes in about a month’s time…while I got on one, suffered on it, left it and then “acclimated” to another.
They say anti-depressants make you worse before better and I certainly experienced that worse. I am not sure if that worse is good for everyone. Sometimes a person cannot take that last dose of really bad.
Beyond that, I have IBS now (fun effect after taking my ‘medication’), I have smoking related difficulties (which I know is my own fault but certainly the increase in smoking I did when I went on AD compared to an effort right up to going on them to stop smoking might have some impact as well).
Maybe that is indicative of something really wrong with me, but obviously, I read these articles and feel a kinship with those who have not found it good and who have not seen this as the path of all good things, because my experience was not good. However, in saying that what I feel most people, especially those who are depressed, would like to see is understanding of them and their feelings – not for doctors to see them as non compos mentis as depression makes you unable to assess anything and if you state the meds are making you feel this way, they see it as you probably are stressed and that is the reason, not the meds. This article is helpful in giving that understanding to those who don’t fit the medical box. The second is that they seek hope but that is a really difficult one to get. Most articles state how difficult it is once a major depression hits to not have a relapse. Articles about anti-depressants state going on meds is your best way to not have a relapse. Articles denying that state that anti-depressants will more than likely bring about a relapse.
So for some meds are great but for those it isn’t so great for, what is the path? I am in agreement with the general sense of the article, I am just not sure for the depressed where it leaves them if they want hope for a future without depression. What alternatives are there? Of course counselling, exercise, nutrition but major depression is some pretty bad chemicals – so I guess I think that articles such as this should give some ideas of how to deal with something this terrible so that readers who feel an affinity with your message can also feel hope and not just a dark idea that because I’ve taken these drugs, I have committed my self to future of more problems than if I hadn’t.
Also, I think that there should be guidance with counselors to not just promote anti-depressants. Maybe there should be some guides out there that help you through a depression through a series of different methods – like nutrition, like encouraging a little exercise, like vitamins or even herbal remedies before going to the strong stuff. All the first items are, are trials to see if there are good opportunities to get well without taking something that clearly states that it is common for those taking it to become more depressed in the beginning, can be prone to suicide…these are not good for someone who is anxious and depressed.
So for those in the health field, please read about how a patient might want to be treated and take that into account. Secondly, for the author of this article…I agree with your sentiments that medicine might not work but don’t give the message to depressed people that all venues and roads offered by doctors or ‘the professional medical members’ won’t work without proposing some hopeful and helpful alternatives. Spouting resonating feelings peppered with doom and gloom will not help depressed members reading this.
Basically a message to all – everyone is so quick to jump on a wagon, ‘it helps me so it is perfect!’ to ‘it is sooooo damaging and may permanently damage your brain and body!’ With two fairly distinct camps, how is a depressed person supposed to sort out what is good information and what is bad? How are they supposed to seek help from polar opposites with such scary possible results? Affecting their very lives on an everyday basis! I kind of feel like there needs to be a lot more meeting in the middle to actually help this group of individuals…to acknowledge that anti-depressants do help some people – people who clearly from the comments above would have died without them. BUT also to educate medical professionals that it doesn’t work for everyone. It can sometimes make things worse. Patients with depression aren’t necessarily mentally incapable – they were capable, confident people the day before, don’t treat them otherwise. Be their advocate and guide, which may mean not going the ‘traditional’ route.
So get out of the camps and come up with plans and solutions that help a group of individuals who need help, who need an advocate and someone who can guide them through options, pros and cons and actually listen.
is it harmful to take antidepressants in small doses even when you aren’t sick(my folks sort of misdiagnosed me with depression..long story)since i’m taking lamitor 100mg,imipramine 25mg,aripiprazole 15mg(1*1 per day each).What are the side-effects mostly and are they that bad?
Yes of course, it is always harmful to take medication you do not need. You should wean off of them slowly. Taking all that medication is not good for your liver at the very least, who knows how it will affect you long term.
do the risks outweigh the benefits in my case,since i read on the net that some people were tested on using antidepressants in small dosages and were found to have some benefits on them.
oh yeah forgot to add above @kristen
If you do not need antidepressants, then yes the risks outweigh the benefits because it is disturbing your body’s natural homeostasis. You may not notice now but longterm you will.
If only it were as easy as clean diet, exercise, good sleep, and therapy. For those of us with complex, chronic mental illness, being told that taking better care of ourselves will fix our problems is insulting at best. To all the “drugs are bad” people — what would you say to someone who has been eating paleo for three years (gluten free for seven), in therapy for three years, has had extensive medical workups with qualified integrative doctors, works out regularly, and STILL suffers from debilitating panic attacks and OCD?
I’m considering medications because a healthy lifestyle, frankly, is not enough for me. I need a better quality of life. Period.
Sorry if this comes across as angry, but it’s frustrating to hear people carrying on about how a clean diet etc cures mental illness. It doesn’t. I wish it did, but it doesn’t.
I really feel for you – there are 2 types of depression, life style/short term and clinical – there is such a lot more understanding these days however it is still such a complex issue and the old ideas are still prominent. Pull yourself together – other sufferers are really the only people who can truly understand . I understand your anger and frustration about attitudes I just wanted you to know that not everyone is judging you some of us are extremely sympathetic and I hope that you can find a way to ease or more hopefully settle your symptoms so that you can enjoy your life
celexa saved my life. On it for one year and weaned off in two weeks. no problems getting on or off. If i did not have celexa i would have probably died . I was in terrible shape. Could not sleep a wink for months.Depressed and paranoid from the lack of sleep…Finally went to the doctor.. celexa sloved the sleeping problem and i was well in a month. Please don’t listen to what you read on the net. While on celexa I was calm , happy and excited about life and my interests. I did gain 14 pounds and sex drive was not like it was before i started. But it cured me and thankful i had it.
If we shouldn’t listen to people’s experiences on the internet then I guess we should not listen to yours either.
You have no right to discredit everyone else’s real experiences because yours was different.
You are a psychiatrist, aren’t you?
Amen!
@Lo This is exactly what is missing from this entire discussion and article. I hope you were able to find a medication to help. My daughter has severe OCD and GAD and takes Celexa, she says she feels like a normal child for the first time in her life. We eat clean, do yoga, practice mindfullness, she has hours of therapy a week (someone comes into our home), but nothing budged until the right dose and medication was found. The gold standard for treatment for OCD is medication along with CBT/ERP therapy. You can try to wean medication after therapy but there is no guarantee. Sometimes the alternative of living without medication is much worse then any medication will be. If you don’t realize that then you’ve never seen what mental illness can do and how without medication there is no life.
Hey, is the link for this section correct:
“Research performed by a different team of investigators demonstrated a reduction in dendritic length and dendritic spine density, and in contrast to the previous study, these changes did not reverse even after a prolonged recovery period. The results were interpreted to suggest that chronic exposure to SSRIs may arrest the normal development of neurons.”
It takes me to this: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9093188 which doesn’t seem to be the paper you are talking about.
Thanks for catching that Andrew. We’ve updated the source in the article.
I’ve been going through some very difficult times and also have an auto immune disorder (sarcoidosis). I’ve been frustrated and it appears that I’ve been difficult to work with. I’ve just been trying to figure out what is going on. It almost seems as though the symptoms I’ve been having are ‘made up’ I’ve been asking for someone to look at my medications but it never occured to me that after reading the side affects I seem to fall into the serious adverse affects and its been going on for awhile. When I mentioned extreme fatique I was offered an rx to keep me awake, I’m already on trazadone. When I mentioned something to my pcp, she said talk to my psychiatist. I already feel stereotyped as being mental. It seems to have advanved to affecting my ability to swallow (dyspagia) which my pulminogist referred me to an ENT for my chronic cough. That led to a whole different path of testing, and neurologist. If this is all due to serious side effects that have been going long term I’m not sure how to get out of this nightmare. I’m not making this stuff up, one neurologist pretty much said my multi symptons are pretty much my own doing, or made up. I can’t just stop taking medications because I know the effects of that are not good. Should I follow throgh with a lumbar puncture to rule out neuro sarcoids or wait to see how to get out of the whole I’m in if its rx related?
Have you ever been so depressed you could barley get out of bed. I assure you would have a different view if you got a taste.
I know two young adults with a bi-polar diagnosis. They followed alternative treatment for several years. Unfortunately they both took there on life. They got the idea to stop there medications from people like.
Tell me the numbers on anti-biotics. How many people have died from them since 1950. I almost did from penicillin in 1960. Every doctor I know thinks they are over prescribed yet they keep writing scripts. Should people stop taking anti-botic?