Despite the widespread use of these prescription drugs (globally, this is a $14 billion business), antidepressants can have potentially negative effects on your health. (3) While they are life-saving for some, for others these medications can trigger side effects and symptoms that can disrupt normal routines, or they may be ineffective at alleviating depression. Keep reading to find out more about potential issues with antidepressants and learn how the Functional Medicine approach to psychiatry can help.
Antidepressants are life-saving for some; for others, they can cause negative side effects or fail to alleviate symptoms of depression. Check out this article for an updated look at antidepressants.
What Really Causes Depression (and What’s Wrong with the Chemical Imbalance Theory)?
Conventional medicine and the pharmaceutical companies have long maintained that depression is caused by an imbalance in brain chemicals. That’s why antidepressant meds are formulated to manipulate the levels of neurotransmitters in the brain. There are several classes of these drugs, including:
- Selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs)
- Serotonin and norepinephrine reuptake inhibitors (SNRIs)
- Tricyclic antidepressants
- Monoamine oxidase inhibitors (MAOIs)
- Atypical antidepressants
However, depression isn’t adequately characterized by “low serotonin” or “low epinephrine.” In fact, only about 25 percent of people diagnosed with depression have abnormally low levels of these neurotransmitters, while some have very high levels of them. (4) Although these facts don’t rule out chemical imbalance as a factor in depression, they do suggest that it’s not the only one.
In reality, depression may be a symptom of one or more underlying issues. I discussed in a previous article how inflammation may be at the root of many cases of depression, (5) but other causes of mental health issues can include:
- Pathogens
- Faulty gut–brain axis signaling (6)
- Gut dysbiosis and/or intestinal permeability (6, 7)
- Trauma (8)
- Loneliness
- HPA-axis dysregulation (9, 10)
- Nutritional deficiencies (11)
Any treatment plan that fails to address these underlying causes isn’t likely to be effective for someone who is suffering from depression. That’s why it’s so important to move beyond the default chemical imbalance explanation and understand what’s really driving the condition.
Antidepressants May Not Be as Effective as You Might Think
Important disclaimer: If you are currently taking an antidepressant, do not stop abruptly and do not taper off the meds without the guidance and support of your healthcare providers. I’ll discuss more about how to taper off of medication below, but it is crucial that you do not undertake any steps without consulting closely with your doctor.
Given the hype surrounding antidepressants, you may be surprised to learn initial treatment is effective at mitigating symptoms only about half the time. (12) Even after trying several treatments, up to 30 percent of those with depression never achieve remission. (13)
While a large meta-analysis published in 2018 in the prestigious journal, The Lancet, states that all antidepressants perform significantly better than placebo, (14) critics have pointed out that these differences are small and not clinically relevant. (15) The majority of high-quality research studies have shown that SSRIs have no benefit over placebo for mild and moderate depression. (16, 17, 18, 19)
One Problem: Clinical Trial Groups Are Not Representative of Real-World People
One major issue with the research on antidepressant efficacy is the selection process of clinical trial group participants. Because the selection process is not standardized or subject to any federal guidelines, patients with milder forms of depression, chronic depression, or other psychiatric or medical conditions in addition to short-term depression are excluded from studies. (20) In some cases, less than 20 percent of people who apply to be part of an antidepressant efficacy trial do not meet the requirements, meaning that study groups are not representative of a real-world population. (21)
Here is why such exclusions matter: In a normal, clinical setting, many patients with depression have other illnesses, such as diabetes, chronic fatigue syndrome, or irritable bowel syndrome. It’s not unusual for them to have anxiety and insomnia, as well. In fact, it’s quite possible that a person with depression might be suffering from other conditions that are either contributing to or caused by their illness.
One study looked at the efficacy of antidepressants in those who did not meet phase III inclusion criteria (phase III clinical trials include and exclude participants based on stringent criteria that would actually exclude the majority of people who take the drugs in real life). Among participants who would not qualify under phase III criteria, researchers found that their outcomes were, unsurprisingly, much worse than those who did qualify for the trials. (22)
It’s important to note the wide variability in individual response to antidepressants. SSRIs and other antidepressants can be game changers for many people, but the reported average response rate in clinical trials won’t shed any light on how one person reacts to a medication versus another individual. However, what’s clear is that these drugs are not a panacea for global mental illness, and that this is a complex topic.
Two Drug-Free Treatments That Can Be as Effective as or More Effective Than Antidepressants
Another important detail to note is that non-pharmaceutical treatments can be as effective or even more effective than antidepressants. Evidence shows promising results for psychotherapy and exercise as effective interventions.
1. Psychotherapy
Substantial evidence demonstrates that psychotherapies, like cognitive-behavioral therapy (CBT), are just as effective as antidepressants for long-term maintenance, for first-line treatment, and even for treatment-resistant depression. (23, 24, 25, 26, 27) In some cases, psychotherapy has actually outperformed antidepressants or added additional benefit to medication. (28, 29, 30)
CBT also might reduce the risk of depression relapse, which is very common. (31, 32) If you’ve had depression once, your risk of developing depression again is about 50 percent. If you’ve had two episodes, you’re 80 percent likely to relapse. (33, 34)
CBT may offer unique skills for preventing relapse. As one review from 2017 states: (35)
“Residual symptoms and relapse risk would decrease if patients in partial or full remission can learn, first, to be more aware of negative thoughts and feelings at times of potential relapse/recurrence, and, second, to respond to those thoughts and feelings in ways that allow them to disengage from ruminative depressive processing.”
2. Exercise
Exercise may be powerful for preventing and alleviating depression. Exercise has mood-boosting effects and can decrease inflammation, improve vagal tone, and modulate neurotransmitters, all of which can help decrease depressive symptoms. (36, 37)
Although not all studies are in agreement, (38) many clinical trials and meta-analyses have determined that exercise can be helpful as an adjunct to antidepressants, or even by itself. (39, 40, 41, 42) Of note, people who already have depression may not have enough motivation and energy to start an exercise regimen, especially on their own. However, perhaps surprisingly, drop-out rates among those who participate in exercise groups generally aren’t higher than drop-out rates for other types of treatments. (43) As exercise boasts numerous health benefits beyond mood improvement, it’s worth considering.
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Negative Side Effects of Antidepressants
Side effects are quite common for people who take antidepressants. More than half of those beginning an antidepressant have one of the more common side effects: (44)
- Nausea
- Decreased libido (very common, especially among men: up to 40 percent taking antidepressants experience this side effect)
- Tiredness and/or insomnia
- Dry mouth
- Constipation
- Dizziness
- Anxiety
- Weight gain
- Sweating
While some of the side effects listed above are manageable and won’t cause serious or long-term health complications, others, such as weight gain or anxiety, may—especially if they persist.
Jitteriness Syndrome, Anxiety, and Akathisia
In the first few months of beginning an antidepressant, “jitteriness syndrome” and anxiety are common side effects. Up to one in four people will experience jitteriness syndrome, and studies have reported a wide range of anxiety incidence related to beginning antidepressants, from 4 to 65 percent. (45) Frequently, those who show anxiety are then prescribed another medication, like a benzodiazepine, with its own risks.
In rare cases, a particular type of severe agitation called akathisia may occur. (46) Akathisia has been shown to increase aggression, violent behavior, and suicide.
Suicide
In 2004, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued a black-box warning that antidepressants may increase suicidal ideation and attempts in children. A couple years later, they extended the warning to include those up to age 25 and also stated that patients of all ages should be monitored for suicidal ideation, plans, and/or attempts. (47)
The studies surrounding suicide and antidepressants are mixed. Some studies have shown higher suicidal behavior in adults and children (48, 49, 50, 51), while others haven’t. (52, 53) Published FDA investigations state that those under age 25 taking antidepressants have about twice the rate of suicidal behavior compared to those taking placebo. (54, 55) SSRI users might be more at risk than users of other classes of antidepressants, and suicide risk seems highest in the first month starting and stopping the meds. (59)
In general, post-2000 studies show lower rates of suicide among antidepressant trials, despite the fact that suicides have increased since then. (60) Some claim that the earlier studies were flawed or that suicidal ideation is better monitored during trials, but others say that the lower rates in recent studies are due to “enhanced screening procedures and effective exclusion of suicidal patients in clinical trials for depression.” (61) To me, that explanation is far from reassuring. The fact remains that individuals who are actually suicidal will be prescribed antidepressants, but robust studies looking at the efficacy of meds in this population just don’t exist.
Other Side Effects
Other side effects can occur with antidepressants, though some still aren’t well-characterized and many are rare: (62, 63, 64, 65)
- Numbness or anti-motivational syndrome
- Interactions with other drugs (ibuprofen and SSRIs don’t mix, for example) (66)
- Depletion of beneficial gut bacteria (antidepressants have antimicrobial properties)
- Osteoporosis
- Cardiovascular issues
- Personality changes
- Gastrointestinal symptoms including diarrhea, gastrointestinal bleeding, and dyspepsia (for which antacids may be prescribed)
- Birth defects
- Liver injury (very rare)
As with any medication, adequate risks/benefits must be taken into consideration. Even when experiencing side effects, stopping antidepressants needs to be done under the guidance of a healthcare provider.
Weaning off Antidepressants Is Difficult
Antidepressants were intended for short-term treatment of depression, but in actuality, people are taking them continuously for years on end. Half of American antidepressant users have been on them for more than five years, though long-term data on effectiveness and safety are sparse. (67) A review of 14 studies on long-term depression treatment indicated that patients who were treated with drugs fared no better than those who weren’t treated with drugs long-term. (68) In another study of people with depression and on antidepressants for over two years, the patients who did not take drugs after remission had a lower rate of remission compared to those who did. (69)
A big reason that people stay on antidepressants long-term is simply this: Withdrawal symptoms make it very difficult to stop. In a systematic review of patients trying to wean off antidepressants, 46 percent of the participants described withdrawal effects as “severe.” (70) Common withdrawal symptoms include:
- Dizziness
- Fatigue
- Irritability
- Confusion
- Insomnia
- Relapse of depression
Slowly Tapering off Antidepressants Is More Successful Than Current Recommendations
One major problem is that patients are weaning off antidepressants too quickly—often at their doctors’ orders. The prevailing recommendation is to wean off completely in a period of two to four weeks. (71) However, evidence demonstrates that decreasing the dose over a much longer period of time results in much lower rates of side effects and results in more consistent levels of neurotransmitters, as imaged by positron emission tomography scans. (72) Several studies have shown the benefits of tapering more slowly (73, 74, 75) including one study that found that patients who slowly came off an SSRI over an average of 38 weeks had only a 6 percent chance of withdrawal syndrome, compared to a 78 percent chance in the group who stopped quickly. (75)
Tapering slowly may take longer, but it’s much more likely to be effective. (76)
The Functional Psychiatry Solution
Do antidepressants have a place in treating depression? As I said above, for some people, they can be game changers. But they don’t work for everyone, and they will not address any underlying issues that are causing or contributing to depressive symptoms.
A better approach to depression and other mental health issues is the functional psychiatry solution, which treats the root cause of a disorder rather than masking symptoms with prescription drugs.
Using a holistic approach, a functional psychiatry approach to depression may involve interventions such as:
- Metabolic testing
- Psychotherapy
- Dietary interventions
- Stress management
- And more
By addressing the true underlying causes of depression, the functional psychiatry approach can improve long-term outcomes for people with depression, giving them relief from their symptoms without the addition of any negative effects of antidepressants.
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Well, it”s me, Mimi. Lee, you were right on about the windows and waves. I am feeling better but it was a long wave. Well over a week. Indeed I also have loud tinnitus. Thought it was cause I had worked around helicopters for 18 years. I have not heard any of you guys mention drastic BP fluctuations. Maybe it was just cause I was so miserable and anxious. Thank you all so very much for being here. Yes I have good family, but unless you have been there, you cannot truly, truly empathize. I have other medical people in my family, and they are supportive but I can see the “you’re stronger than that” look in their eyes. So you guys are my support system. I am so thankful that I found you all. When one of us is down the others can lift them back up. Everyone hang in there and remember to take care of your selves. God hears our prayers, even when we are mad at him for letting this happen to us so pray a lot.
So glad you’re feeling better 🙂
In case you feel worse again or you have any questions, check out http://survivingantidepressants.org There’s a flood of lovely, supportive people who can 100% empathize with what you’re going through.
They have great advice.
Well, after 8 months off SSRI withdrawal hell, and starting to feel better with more frequent good days, I have had a tremendous down turn. Headache, nausea, apathy, traveling pain, and my blood pressure is all over the place. Anxiety is out of control and I have become agoraphobic again. All I seem to do is stay in bed. Mornings are the worst. I wake up like a fire alarm has gone off and it takes me half the morning to escape this intense anxiety. Can’t sleep much without help from Ambien. Thought this was mostly over. Could this just be a temporary set back? If this is going to be my life, I don’t think I can take much more. Seeing MD this week to make sure not something else. I am so tired of all this. I want to be happy. Anyone else have a bad setback after this long?
Hi Mimi,
so sorry you’re going through this! I think it’s quite common for symptoms to fade and then suddenly come back with full force. It’s called “windows and waves” in patient forums. Waves of worsening symptoms are followed by windows where things are better.
I know it’s frustrating. This horrible hell seems to never end. It’s already a very good sign that you had a nice window where you felt better. The next one will be better and longer and so on. You might suffer setbacks, but the overall trend will be always up.
Do you have people who understand and who can support you? I think that’s really important.
Stay strong, you already survived 8 months of this, now it won’t be that long any more. I’m just so angry that good people have to go through this hell just because of criminal pharmaceutical companies and corrupt psychiatrists in decision making positions.
All the best, Lee
What makes all this devastatingly worse is that I have many years left in which I could use my education and skills to help other people and I have become not only disabled for work but in my personal life also. I am a 35 yr critical care nurse with 18 yrs exp as medevac nurse and field surgeon training. I should still be out there helping save lives. I sometimes pray, Father forgive them for they do not know the extent of what they have done.. It’s not just me that this has affected.
I feel your pain Mimi! It’s horrible how many thousands of lives have been ruined by these drugs.
I’m the same: I had an awful childhood, fought my way out and managed to build a decent life for myself. I gave everything in order to build a career and leave my past behind. It was very hard to get so far. Now it’s gone.
But you know what? We will get our lives back. We’re on the way up and out of this nightmare.
There’s so many people who don’t even know that their lives have been devastated by these drugs. They may believe their doctors who say “it’s your illness, it’s not withdrawal”. They may remain in the psychiatric drug merry-go-round for a long long time.
I’ve read so many absolutely horrible stories. It’s so sad 🙁
Mimi, Lee, Nan.. where on this earth do you all live?
Kuldeep, I live in northern Nevada. How about you? How are you doing?
Nan i live in western part of India. I have taken the horrible drugs for about 14 years before saying goodbye to them in 2012-13.
The withdrawal was extremely ugly and just not liveable, but then every person has that hidden strength which pops up in the times of adversities. I have managed last 2-3 yrs almost uselessly lying down in bed and trying to understand what is going on in mind and body. Things that have helped me are
1. My homeopath Dr. Sankaran who is indisputably No.1 in world today. People from all over the world come to him and mostly all cases get better under him. I am lucky that Dr. Sankaran is just 150 miles away from my place. I visit him every month since last one year and i acknowledge that he is a genius of human mechanism.
2. I took up strictly Gluten free diet. Going gluten free has reduced lots of inflammations in my body and that helps in faster recovery and general good feeling.
3. I stopped consuming all the nonsense food.
Three years down the line i am in much better condition.
Tennessee, USA
Hi, Mimi, I know how disheartening this setback is. Please don’t loose heart. I was on high doses of Remeron for 11 years. It is now 4 years later and I’m still battling the ” collateral damage” brought in by this poison.
Have you thought about secondary sensitivities? Do you find yourself made sick by chemical smells, been on antibiotics, any food related reactions? How about other meds you may be on.
Take whatever the MD says to you with a grain of salt. Remember almost all of them do not recognize prolonged antidepressant withdrawal and may very well talk you into taking more drugs.
Do your homework. Go to the website ” surviving antidepressants.com” and look around. There’s a wealth of info there. Also, “beyond meds.com”. These people have been or are continuing to struggle with this plague every day.
Don’t weaken. The longer you’ve been in AD’s the longer your brain needs to recover. Neuroplasticity takes time.
Mimi, sorry to hear about your suffering. Let me tell you that you are not a lone sufferer. Now you say you want a mere consolation or you want real solution? If you are happy by simply venting out your sufferings here then pls continue. But if you are seriously looking for a relief then you have to explore the options. Universe has unlimited options. I have had my share of the ugliest experiences and then found a help. Ofcourse i am still recovering but atleast i learnt that modern chemical model of medicine is not the only way.. There are other promising ways to feel better.
kbgadhvi at yahoo. com
Lee, Nan, Kuldeep and all others out there. Thank you so much for the quick and knowledgeable support and suggestions. I feel better already..
I have a friend who’s been medicated for depression for years. She disappeared from social life for a while, but now She’s BAAAAACK, with a new medication that makes her feel GREAT, SO GREAT, I FEEL GREAT ALL THE TIME!!!! All her Facebook posts practically pop off the page with all the excitement and emoticons and multiple exclamation points!!!! She’s really doing well now, didn’t get to bed until 2:30 a.m. and here she is posting away on Facebook at 6 a.m.! She feels GREAT GREAT GREAT ALL THE TIME TIME TIME. GREAT NEW MEDICATION IS WORKING!!!!!!
Thing is, her mania is glaringly obvious to me, but all her friends are congratulating her on “overcoming” her depression.
Oh dear.. antidepressants really seem like a bulletproof way to ruin your life. If her doctor isn’t smart enough to realize this is a side effect, she might share the faith of so many: Being diagnosed as bipolar, put on even more toxic mood stabilizers and that’ll be it…So sorry for your friend. I hope you can reach her.
I do not do facebook but I have heard enough about this same type of thing concerning a relative of mine. All of the things that she has been part of and doing since she was a teen were evidence of some minor treatable problems. Then she got on the GREATEST med ever and ended up having multiple affairs, lost jobs, wrecked cars, etc, etc, culminating in leaving her 2 small daughters and husband for some POS she met on line in another state. He must not be much of a man if he would let her abandoned her daughters. She doesn’t understand why the whole family has alienated her and they don’t understand that although she does have some mental health issues, none of this awful stuff started till she got on the SSRI’s. She does not even act or look like the same person. If I met her for the first time, I would think that she was in a Manic fit. She just thinks she is Happy Happy Happy, regardless of the fact that she has 2 little girls crying for her every night. Oh yeah, she is not an ignorant POS. She is a very intelligent, highly educated beautiful woman who got into a downward spiral and fell into the unholy grips of antidepressants. I pray for her every night. It’s all any of us can do as we have tried everything else. It was seeing it in her that made me recognize it in myself and gather the strength to start my recovery.
I took Cipralex (Lexapro) for 6 week. Now, 6 months later, I still have severe sexual dysfunction. I believe the sexual dysfunction is because dopomine (and noradrenaline) in my brain is inhibited by too much serotonin. These drugs are poison, they very quickly and permanently alter your brain!
I tried about 6 anti depressants over 6 months to treat my anxiety. I’ve now been off of the medication for 8 months.
I am very upset and don’t know how to help myself as when i talk to doctor, psychiatrist or psychologist about the issues i am having- they all deny what i am feeling to be untrue. I strongly believe my memory is failing, i am now very forgetful. It feels like a brain damage. I am only in my early twenties! i can’t focus on things anymore. the other day as an example, i was mid sentence in a social engagement – telling a story. all of a sudden i forgot the story/ what i was talking about and couldn’t continue. I am also not retaining any new information.I am worried that i will never go back to my old self. It is distressing because i am doing worse than before i started trying the anti depressant and no one told me of any permanent risks like this one! I felt these symptoms whilst on it – and now that i am off it, because i didn’t like the side effects — it has never gone away.
Any advice please? this would be wonderful!
If u want to find true relief and reversal of your damages then in my opinion there is only one option contact
1. Dr. Rajan Sankaran MD homeopath, world famous for his mastery over diagnosis.
2. Dr. Mahesh Gandhi MD (psych) turned homeopath by choice, he also has fantastic results in psych drug cases.
both are best, just watch them first on youtube and then decide for yourself.
People find fantastic results. I am one of them.
Really? You’re suggesting the utterly baseless, scammy and totally scientifically debunked practice of homeopathy for this person’s issues? Shameful and ignorant in the extreme.
What’s shameful is when people accept the bs laid out by pharmaceuticals, but disregard anything natural. Yeah that’s smart use chemicals that potentially alter your god given gift. Criticize someone who uses what is natural to help people. You know nothing about it.
Beefwalker.. can u explain what is scientific in your view? And what is unscientific about homeopathy?
I agree with Kuldeep an Carrie. We have seen that the treatments offered in modern psychiatry and often medicine are not scientific at all. The trials are engineered to make toxic substances appear beneficial by introducing systematic errors into trials, bribing opinion leaders and ghostwriting. “Scientific” studies are written before the authors are even determined.
In some antidepressant trials, the placebo group was on antidepressants up until right before the trial. They took them off cold turkey to make the placebo group fare worse than the antidepressant group and “prove” efficiency of SSRI over placebo. They moved suicides from the SSRI group to the placebo group. I could go on and on.
This fraud also answers the question why the h*** these studies measured withdrawal reactions in the placebo group and then write “we measured withdrawal reactions in 78% of the SSRI group and in 34 % of the placebo group.”
Modern medicine is not science, it’s fraud.
very true Lee.
I feel that everyone should ask themselves one question. What is a Medicine?
In my view there are no medicines that can cure or heal any disease. healing is a process that is always done by your own body. Disease is a condition when normal pathologies in your body either become deficient or there are excesses, what is called as ‘Disharmony’. This disharmony is experienced by the body and mind in the form of symptoms. The chemicals that we take in the name of medicines work only as ‘Interferers’ or ‘supporters’ or ‘Alterers’, they cannot heal anything by themselves, the chemicals have no healing power of any kind.
By the time your own body goes thru the curative process this chemicals might give a helping hand. In case of emergency or severe irreversible pathologies this chemicals may serve as life saving Interferers or supporters. But for general disharmony of human mechanism the best way is to allow your own vital forces to heal itself, and every body is by default capable of handling every crisis if basic wisdom is followed of peaceful mind, natural whole foods, regular exercise and rest.
If you don’t allow your own body-mind wisdom to do it’s functions by depending upon chemicals for too long then gradually your systems become weak, they lose their sense of self repairs. There is no harm in seeking temporary support from medicines but your existence cannot be allowed to function only on chemicals.
Kuldeep, I wish I had been offered a choice 14 years ago between AD’s and homeopathy and been wise enough to make the right choice. Instead, I was offered a choice between strichnine and antifreeze. Neither one good for your brain!
I liked the way you wrote that ADs are a choice between Strychnine and Antifreeze.
What is your present condition? Are you still on drugs?
Kuldeep, I will have been off AD’s for four years as of September 4 ( my birthday). My main problem now is constant high pitched tinnitis and headaches.
I am glad that my ability to think has returned. It left almost completely at the end of the 11 year AD use period.
Still pretty averse to stress and not able to return to my 30 year veterinarian career.
Just want to be content with my life.
Lee. . . AMEN, brother!
Ohh.. even i have tinnitus. mine was initially high pitched, now its constant at approx 30% of highs.. and i observed that it has direct relation with blood pressure and salt. Tinn is lower when pressure is normal.
I am off the ADs since 3 yrs. And yes getting back to the old routine and work is simply a dream now, a dream full of guilt for not being able to perform in anything.
You are suffering with protracted withdrawal and maybe suffering from issues just because you took the drug. Your brain has to heal back from taking this medication. It will not happen quickly. It heals like a scab that keeps getting ripped off. It gets better and gets worst and gets better again. It will just take time. 6mths to 3yrs depending on he extent of the damage. Going through it myself. NO FUN
Mr. Bob. Sounds like you have a handle on things. I thought I did. Enough good days that I could tolerate the bad days. Now all of a sudden I am stuck in at least a week of almost constant misery. Admit that there have been a lot of stressors lately but I want this to stop and give me a little relief. Just for a little while. I am determined to beat this one way or the other, I will never touch another one of those things as long as I live. I am now nearly 8 months out from long wean and last Lexapro and I honestly feel like I am dying. Too many symptoms to mention. I feel like I have stomach and regular flu at same time. Any suggestions? I am doing everything I know to do. Also extreme bouts of anxiety. HA and visual disturbances. Thanks in advance for any help.
I feel the same way! I was going through cancer treatment (breast cancer) over 5 yrs ago when my family doctor decided I needed something. I was NEVER “clinically” depressed IMO. Never had any thoughts of suicide, nor have I ever been diagnosed with any psychiatric disorder (and no family history)
I think this doc feels everyone should be on an antidepressant and I disagree. I USED to be a lot more fun, and now I feel blunted. I am physically disabled and live in major pain but I don’t feel I have a lot to be depressed about. I have NO motivation like I used to have. Like I told him, “I don’t give a shit about anything, even the things I WANT TO give a shit about!!” Whenever I mention getting off them (taking Bupropion SR 100mg=Welbutrin) he says things like “Oh let’s wait until after the Holidays” and I don’t get any real feedback from him other than that. I am ready to wean myself off them just to see if I still have any personality left! What is the worst that can happen??
I think for some reason in our society every doctor thinks everyone should be on something. I’m sure it’s the money thing. I’ve been on antidepressants since my early twenties and now I’m in my early thirties. I can honestly say no drug out there is going to get rid of depression 100% or anxiety for that matter. We have to realize these feeling are programmed into us. I think a lot of it has to come from us doing the work, knowing that life isn’t always going to be happy go lucky all the time. Sometimes life just plainly sucks. I’m getting to the point to where I’m sick of these doctors playing god on me and I’ll just figure things out on my own. Can’t do any worse than what their doing to me by giving me these dangerous pills all the time, because one doesn’t work, let’s try another. I’m done.
Hi ‘Join the conversation’
I’ve had similar issues, brain-fog, losing the point of the story I’m telling, forgetting what I’m doing or should be doing – and a LOT of anxiety around all that.
The biggest help for me has been this:
(1) A paleo or paleo-esque diet. Because good quality saturated fats are not only great for your brain, but are an essential nutrient. So start each day with eggs (lots!) greens, fish oil and perhaps even bullet-proof coffee. Cook everything in coconut oil or grass-fed butter/ghee.
(2) Magnesium. Great for the nervous system – and sleep.
(3) Sleep in a pitch-black room (i.e. not even a glowing charger or power-board) and sleep 8-9hrs minimum.
“Not all sleep deprived people are depressed, but ALL depressed people are sleep deprived!”
(4) Vitamin D and exercise. Not lots, but get sunlight on your skin for 20mins/day and either go for a good long, FAST walk or a swim, or just lift some weights every couple of days for 15-20mins.
(5) Meditate. Get the Calm app or similar and do some mindfulness meditation daily. It won’t seem to help for a while, perhaps a few weeks, but eventually, wow!
(6) No phones, laptops, TV in bed after 10! The blue light is a melatonin killer. Read a book with a lowish yellowing light instead.
Good luck and let me know how you go!
BW
What you are experiencing is antidepressant withdrawal syndrome. Go to a site called “Surviving Antidepressants”.
Hundreds of others going through what you are going through are there with there stories, collective wisdom and compassionate advice. I’ve gone through everything (all of the symptoms)that you are going through as well as many others. I’m back to normal these days, though I thought at times that I never would be. Just to reassure you-nothing you’re experiencing is permanent. Antidepressants radically change the nervous system around and once you stop taking them it takes different amounts of time for it to go back to it’s previous state. Going through many different antidepressants in a sort period of time was very destabilizing for your nervous system, thus the withdrawal symptoms. I’m sorry for your current suffering.
I got antidepressants prescribed for a burnout. I was still functioning and thought they could get me through a stressful time until the next holiday. The doctor agreed (arghhhh????).
I have been disabled from side effects and haven’t been able to work since.
I had akathisia, brain zaps, chest pain, fainting, psychotic thoughts, I would get nausea when I moved my head, muscle twitches all over the body, migraine type headaches, obsessions and compulsions, racing thoughts, suicidality and self harming just to name a few. I could go endlessly.
All that despite just taking a few doses of an antidepressant. It’s been now over three months and the symptoms haven’t yet stopped. They are very slowly decreasing.
My doctors don’t believe me and put everything down to anxiety. That’s ridiculous because I never had any physical symptom before being put on SSRIs.
When I mentioned to my doctor that all the side effects are written in the leaflet, he said the side effects don’t actually occur. They are just written in the leaflet to protect the drug companies from lawsuits. So that’s what the doctors truly believe about these toxic drugs.
Lee, pl do take solace by thinking that atleast u r not alone. what u have described is a common story worldwide.
most Drs have never tried these drugs or they may possibly never try on themselves knowing the horrendous side effects. What we can do is only consider this as a serious accident which we can’t reverse now. The only way is to move forward in life altho, with never ending struggle.
Do drink lots of water so to flush out toxicity, learn to say NO when n where not comfortable, and trust in God that gradually things will fall in place.
Thanks so much for your kind words Kuldeep!
They are much needed at the moment. I believe once this is over I will be stronger than before.
Lee.. u r already very strong. Once u have crossed few months now its a forward journey. Soon u will be wondering that how soon the time passed by, and u will feel better, for sure.
Try to flush out toxins by drinking water as much as u can, approx 3 litres a day is fine. keep your colon clean, eat lots of whole fruits and lots of vegetables, it makes unbelievable effect. Avoid pizza and other breads. Keep faith in God that all will be fine. Trust your body wisdom that it can heal itself. Mind is a very powerful tool, so keep it positive and change negative thoughts as soon as they cross your head, gently ask them ‘not now, pl come later’. All the best.
The web site surviving antidepressants got me through the same problems you’re having-that is, anti-depressant withdrawal syndrome.
Guys,
I need to tell you about recent events, which may just help someone else. I posted a while ago about my dire straits on sertraline, so I decided to follow up my research on food and supplementation and put it to work. 8 weeks ago, I convinced my doc to drop me to 50mg from 100 (why they should need convincing to allow us to get better, I dunno). Anyway, she permitted this, and I supplemented with vitamin d3 and amino acids. 5 weeks later, and I started to see marked improvements in my motivation and desire to get active, as well as a little more energy and happiness. It was then that I decided to start a new eating lifestyle, and hating diets, my wife and I commenced the paleo/caveman/hunter gatherer method. 3 weeks on from this….OH MY WORD!!!!!! I have a new lease of life. I have dropped 12lbs, never hungry, energy through the roof, joy and enjoyment from things is obvious for all to see, I am lovin the gym again, and the bedroom department is…well…imagination peeps. I am also hoping to gradually come off the sertraline, hoping to be completely non-reliant by July. Please, do as I did, and speak to your med professional before doing this. I now know what it means when people say they have turned a corner. The last 2 years seem so distant, that I don’t recognise who I had become, and it’s only been 8 weeks since decreasing began. I can only thank God for his guidance, and pray that this is permanent, just as I pray for each of you who are suffering also. xo
dont wait for permission form your doctor to stop the sertraline. Just wean yourself off slowly. Half the daily dose again and again, then take every other day, less and less. Or Google weaning off. You don’t need it anymore!
I am having a hard time believing my husband that celexa made him cheat, go to strip clubs, drink, and lie. He tells me all the time that it wasn’t him, it was the drugs. Could he be telling me the truth can celexa really change a person that much?he also claims that he remembers nothing during that period of time.
Bmj, celexa or any other drug for the reason do not stimulate a person to do any wrong or cause a seduction effects but the drugs are definitely capable of altering a person’s decision sense. It sort of numbs your thinking.
so in your opinion, is this a side effect? I am trying hard to understand why he would do such a thing. I was in complete shock. He claims that he remembers nothing. He claims that after 8 months he realized that something was wrong so he started to taper off the Celexa and when he realized what he was doing it was to late. forgive me if I keep asking questions I amtrying so hard to understand.
Bmj.. You may choose to call it side effects or the main action of the psych drugs. what i remember about my self and have heard from others is that this drugs make a zombie out of a normal human being. The main effect/side effect is Apathy, the person loses his emotional software, altho the person knows what he is doing is wrong but deep inside he doesn’t feel that emotion, so he keeps doing the wrong as a robot.
I don’t think a person will not remember anything, but if you put too much pressure on already confused brain then naturally the person will lie.
In other words this drugs are same as heroine, cocaine, brown sugar etc.. The effects on brain are 90% same.
should a person be held accountable for their actions at the drugged time? Everything that he did was so not the man I know. Our home was also in foreclosure because he wasn’t paying any bills. I am having a hard time understanding this all. But if this was all done and he was aware of what he was doing and was just having a good time at my expense than I need to know for my decisions but if it was out of his control then thats a different decision.
bmj…As 25 yr professional in the field, NO, the Celexa is not the cause of your husband’s actions, his behavior is not a side-effect of the medication. It is unfortunate that too many people try to use medication as an excuse for unacceptable actions/behavior. A person on Celexa still knows right from wrong and is quite capable of making the appropriate decision. Also, it certainly doesn’t cause memory loss.
Klc.. with your seniority as a professional i wouldn’t argue with u, but all psych drugs do cloud the human brain, they do affect the normal judgment n decision of actions. When local anaesthesia is administered in hand or legs it doesn’t mean you don’t have the hands/legs, but certainly u cannot move it in absolute natural way, its indisputable. Similar is the action of ADs on brain.
this all happened when he went from 20 to 40mg.
I oh so beg to differ with you!!! I too am a 35 yr medical professional and while on an 8 yr nightmare ride with SSRI tmt, I did and said things that I would have never in my life have done. I had no energy, and multiple other physical sys. You can read thru part of my journey in this post. I am now almost 6 months off Lexapro and feel alive again. I feel emotions and enjoyment that I thought I had lost. I feel empathy for others that I had lost. I feel love again. I am regaining my ability to remember things. I thought I had early onset Alzheimers or microvascular disease. This is still sometimes a problem but gets better and better as time goes on. I do not believe that everyone has a bad effect from these drugs, but I KNOW that some of us do. Some worse than others. If chemical and neuro-receptor disorders can create monsters like serial killers, why can chemical changes from ingested sources not cause drastic changes? This may not be the case. He may just be a POS but do not completely rule out the possibility. A family’s well being is at stake here.
I do believe it was the drugs. This man has been through total hell with me through all of this and he is still with me. it is hard for me to understand things when I have been hurt. it is super hard when a spouse does the sort of things that he did. But with a lot of faith and sites like this one I am understanding and am truly seeing what has happened to him.
Did you suffer from serotonin syndrome?
These drugs do cause memory loss!!!!! And, they DO cause you to do think and do things you would never have done before. Yes, of course, we are ultimately accountable for our actions, BUT when your brain has been altered by one of these monsters you don’t even relate to accountability, let alone give a crap. When i was under the influence i said horrible things to people and felt no obligation to any ideal.
All of these mass shootings are done by poor souls under the influencd of these drugs. The drug companies are evil and the “PROFESSIONALS” are their duped pushers.
Rubbish! I can state unequivocally that many, if not all, antidepressants cause memory retention and concentration problems. These drugs have a significant affect on the pre-frontal section of the brain, which you should well know is responsible for short-term memory recall. Because medications like Zoloft do nothing more than inhibit brain activity, it stands to reason that taking them can result in reduced synaptic activity. More importantly, they limit the user’s ability to concentrate on a specific task for any extended period of time without their mind wandering. This is an essential part of the cognitive process allowing people to make the necessary connections that are so important for establishing reliable memory recall.
Forget 20 or 40mg.. psych drugs simply alter the normal brain functions. once the brain starts functioning in an abnormal way then everything is possible. Two people should not be compared, simply take it as a drug induced condition and be sympathetic towards your life partner. There is no way you can rewrite the gone time, so accept it as a bad phase, look around and you will find much more ugly things happen in others lives. Just observe your husband and try to feel why he is behaving in an unacceptable manner? Does he need your help, your empathy or your question marks?
I will tell you this much , celexa can make someone be literally not himself ever again .
Crisanta, bmj.. All said n discussed, this drugs are nasty n notorious but we are here to help each other find some relief, some options to feel better.
In my experience, Dr. Rajan Sankaran is a meritorious doctor. After 8 months into homeopathy treatment under him i feel lot of my toxicity has come down. After withdrawal from psych drugs i had relapsed depression n anxiety for 2 yrs, and not to mention severe insomnia which is unexplainable. now i have least depressive feel, anxieties are at low levels and i am able to sleep few hours. Now i realise why Dr. Sankaran is internationally so famous. He is a genius.
Yes i speak from experience, changed my personality..i didnt recognise myself, still struggling too x
I know the damaging effects of Paxil. I took only 3 pills and my personality is different. totally flat. and no sexual arousal. I took them about 10 days ago. I am starting to fear this might be permanent. dont take these drugs. they are a chemical lobotomy
Very well said, antidepressants indeed is chemical lobotomy.
However, why are you worried? Pl gather some courage and make a resolve to stay away from this drugs. For you i would suggest that kindly listen to Dr. Mahesh Gandhi on YouTube. He is very good at explaining what exactly is depression and anxiety etc, i am sure once you understand the funda you might be able to tackle it without drugs. Do listen atleast 5-7 of his speeches. He is a MD psych turned into a homeopath and is an international fame. He is not God but certainly he seems to have a good grip on mental illness cases. All the best.
Hi i was on venlafaxine 9 mths ago been on it off an on for 7 yearsive been off it an boy am i so not the person i was before my last try to gettin on it..i cant control my mental states feel brain damaged..how would one go bout have this logded with the right people an been fixed
Jaye, i went thru the whole ugly package of venlafaxine withdrawal for 2-3 yrs.. Finally, what really made the difference was Dr. Rajan Sankaran. There are no two opinions about the fact that Dr. Rajan Sankaran is a genius, an international fame and a fantastic homeopath who is capable of restoring your health more than anybody else.
What about shutting your mouth about your homeopathic freudsterfriends from India? Thank you
Homeopathy is the medicine of future. People are getting fantastic results. What else people want?
Just try it without any bias or prejudice.
Yes I was on paxil 15 years ago. Get the definitely did some damage to the head of my penis as I can no longer feel any sensacion there. I’m sure it’s affected me now and in the past because I am still single and really Am not too worried about getting a girlfriend. That being said I do want to experience maybe a relationship in the future, although I don’t know if the effects of this is permanent. I think probably it is unless there’s something that needs to be turned on in my head or my brain.
Just a word of encouragement. After a total of 8 years of hell and multiple drugs, consideration of suicide, many docs and loss of the joy of life, I took my life back. At times I felt like I had lost my soul. Now I know why the new craze for zombies. That is what I felt like and I am sure most of you do too. The withdrawal I did on my own over several months. It was a horrible experience and many times I thought I would die. I was even partially blind at one time. The headaches and zaps and visual auras and dreams and on and on happened. But it got better. I feel like a real person today. It has been 8 months since wean started and 3 months SSRI free. Still have occasional visual auras and a little dizziness and tinnitus, but I am hopeful these will eventually subside. If not, still a better world. I am even optimistic about some spinal surgery for a benign tumor around my sciatic nerve. They thought I was faking my leg pain also. Ha! My advise is to get rid of as much stress in your life that you possibly can before you start your quest. Take as many of the supplements as you can afford, eat right, and walk, walk, walk. Even if you have to use a cane to steady yourself. I want to send you all encouragement, love and hugs and tell you that it can be done. Take your life back. If it were not for posts like this and others to encourage me, I would never have made it. Also be very vocal to anyone medical or mental health associated who will listen about our experiences. I am a medically retired highly trained RN in my early 60’s who retired because of this mess. I would have never believed it in a million years. I was mean to people who needed help. God forgive me. I hope to get myself straightened out enough to go back to work and find a way to help folks like us. I still have a lot of nursing to do.
Hi mimi,
Indeed your words are encouraging and yes your advise on walk walk walk is a million dollar fact, but unfortunately depleted energies and sick head doesn’t always support to go out and walk. Just the thought of going out of comfort zone and moving legs is a big task, but i understand that anyhow this should be done, no excuses, no ifs and no buts, just have to walk as much as possible.
Wishing you a speedy recovery and improved quality of life.
Pl throw some more light on supplements.
Indeed u r correct. The first time I tried it I only made it 1/4 mile. I was so proud of myself that I made it 1/2 mile the next time. Now I am doing 2-3 miles. Goal is 5. I am loosing small amount of wt. Also very encouraging. You find that when the fog starts to lift and the withdrawal effects taper off that you will feel more like it. I promise I know all about the depleted energies and sick head. I found a number of web sites that give you a laundry list of supplements and I couldn’t afford all that stuff. I found that Omega 3 fish oils, and the B complex of vitamins helped me. Particularly B12. It gives you a tiny bit of energy and as we all know energy begats energy. I quit eating bread and fatty stuff also as this seemed to make me more droopy. Lots of fish, chicken, turkey, vegs, nuts, etc. In short a good diet. And drink as much water as you can tolerate to help flush out your whole body system. I talked my doc into giving me B12 injections that I could administer at home. I am so happy that I drug myself up off that sofa in the last days of my withdrawal and took that first step. Not only did it help with my energy but I saw all kinds of wonderful things out there in the world. I laughed out loud at the squirrels. Hadn’t done that in a long, long time. You have to understand that I was so far gone that I lost my job, my friends, ostrasized my family, and rejected God. I was ready to die.
I tryed to get onto venlafaxine 3 mths of hell an that was euff..total mental health case worker an was left to wean myself off..so i freaked an come off to fast..but holy moly i feel my hole life has been taken from this horride drug..i have mental changes al day everyday..cry everyday..dizzie nausa..list goes on..can you help reackomend anything to help.
call for snakeoil
I was put on antidepressants 13 years ago. My problem was that I could fall asleep any time of the day. I could sleep standing up. I was exhausted all the time. If my small children would try to wake me, I would scream. Well, I am still on them. I ask my doctor every year if she can wean me off of them since I am now suffering from neurological problems. I tremor horribly and my speech has become broken at times. The doctor said that my problems are not caused by antidepressants. She called them Essential Tremor. I know my body and I know what antidepressant are doing to me. I know when I get completely off of them that I might as well call in sick from work for the week. The ringing in my head, the cotton mouth. UGH!!! I just want to get back to normal.
Hi, Becky, I was reading your letter and it is really disturbing that your dr. (?) dismissed your comment that you needed to get off your antidepressant. She made the comment that your issues were not caused by your AD. I just googled essential tremor and medline lists certain medications, such as antidepressants, as being the CAUSE of ET.
You need to start doing some research on this issue or you will continue to suffer more and more problems from these drugs.
Please read Robert Whitaker’s book “Anaromy of an Epidemic”. The whole ugly truth about these poisons is there.
Also, go to ” Surviving Antidepressants.org. This is a whole forum where people like you go to get off AD’s. Please don’t delay. And, your doctor doesn’t know anything about how these drugs work, what they do to your brain, or how to get off them. Do your homework and learn everything about weaning you can.
Good luck!
Becky, which place u live? what is cotton mouth u mentioned?
In my opinion all of us who suffer effects ADs have a common complaint that this is something neurological, but then we hear so many people say that their Dr did not agree, and most of all AD sufferers would have gone thru MRIs or other scans of brain at some point in time and found nothing, so nothing to really worry. However, when Drs simply dismiss the symptoms then that is also not acceptable bcoz physical symptoms are body’s way of expressing the discomfort and when there is constant complaint then it terribly affects the quality of life, and that needs some serious decision, bcoz day n months n years will keep passing, so when will we feel good? Even if Dr do not find anything still they have to try to make u comfortable, atleast the sufferer cannot be left on his own to struggle endlessly.
In case of ADs there are two roads from which sufferer has to choose one, one is to change the AD or it’s power and second is to start coming off of it. Either of the two is not going to be easy road bcoz if u change the AD then it will just be a shift of symptoms from one set to another set, and soon the new picture will bcum equally ugly, bcoz ultimately all ADs lead to living hell. The other option people have is to start reducing the chemical in a very very slow and gentle way, and that too is not going to be easy, but atleast u can imagine the gradual escape from this horrendous drugs, atleast u can imagine light at the end of long dark tunnel.
There are no two opinions that when millions of people are saying that this psych medicines are destroying their lives, making them into a vegetable, the life bcums like an animal etc etc.. the best thing one can do is to gather courage, trust in the good God and start reduction with a 6-12 months planning and believe in the wisdom of your body n mind that with time it will heal. with drugs also u are suffering, and without also u will suffer.
I took my call in 2012-13 that i will suffer without chemicals, nature has not made us to live on factory made chemicals, and now its already 30 months past, still suffering but many things have changed for good.. The black clouds are going, i can see it, feel it. u may cntc me on kbgadhvi at yahoo .com
All the best.
I have been on Sertraline 100mg for a while now and although my dark moods have improved, I am convinced that there is a more biological reason for my depression. However, living in Ireland, even though we are blessed with a free healthcare system, it will immediately prescribe anti-depressants for any low moods and point you towards websites and CBT. These may well be helpful to a point, as are the antidepressants. However, I firmly believe that the AD’s are merely aspirin for the nervous system and there may be underlying issues needing addressed, things which the healthcare system will not test for, such as T3 due to the cost. Instead, they simply recommend another AD or to increase my current meds, which is simply put by me as ‘intermittently monitoring my demise’ rather than looking for a cause. I have no reason to be depressed, however, as I have gotten older, my low moods have worsened year by year and this is why I am researching other means for it. I am a qualified personal trainer, nutritionist and massage therapist, so I know the benefits of eating right, exercising, and reducing stress. However, with the side effects induced by the ADs, I have had to curb my career, and put my dreams on hold due to the weight gain and lethargy, as well as involuntarily postponing starting a family due to ‘ZERO’ sex drive. I can only pray that the private healthcare route will offer some alternative (once I can afford it), in order to get back to some kind of normality.
I feel for everyone suffering with some level of depression and I pray for brighter days for you all. One piece of advice, I can offer is to research and discuss any medication with your Doctor(s) and to find and deal with the underlying cause of the depression and only use the medication in the short-term because you weren’t placed on this earth to work at quarter power or to lie in stasis.
God Bless xo
Something that doctors don’t take into consideration are food and chemical sensitivities as the underlying cause of depression and anxiety. Also, nutritional deficiencies can bring on anxious states. I recommend readinghttp://www.doctoryourself.com/depression.html and also Dr. Keith Scott-Mumby’s book, Diet Wise.
Dr. Scott-Mumby’s experiences and case histories, especially, are clear indicators that foods like dairy and even the common potato can cause aggression, depression and panic attacks.
Check two things 1. Thyroid–there is no “average” low or high. If its not right for you will it can cause depression as well as a lot of other problems
2. Your bed. Beds made of petroleum products and/or fire retardants made with 3 pesticides and other products.
If you have both of these problems its worse.
Two days after getting new bed, my granddaughter had a massive asthma attack (she does not have asthma). We covered bed with 6ml. clear plastic (that does not off gas). Problem solved.
everything i read is about and for those who take anti-depressants, mood-enhancers, or whatever psychotropic drugs. what about the side effect of those of us who choose to feel life? i am currently suffering a supervisor who is – what i call – a SRRI junkie. she gets to avoid conflict, sub-consciously lie, and betray those around her to keep her world the way she thinks it should be while i suffer the negative emotional consequences. she takes pills everyday to ensure feelings of calm, but she creates an environment of resentment and anger. now, this is just my theory, but i live my feelings of depression because it is an indicator that something is wrong, just as my anger towards my SSRI-junkie boss is an indicator that something is wrong. i feel these feelings and make choices. depression is an indicator that our society is ill. And i just think that it’s abusive to take happy pills, all the while adding to the negative energy that natural, sensitive people must feel.
I try not to place the blame on anyone but myself, but I can’t help but to think that antidepressants were a contributing factor in the horrible things that happened over the past few years. In 2009 I started taking Lexapro. First time ever taking a psychiatric medication. I immediately noticed a change in myself. I thought of it as a positive change. But my personality gradually went from quiet, reserved, and pretty much a bookworm… to very chatty, carefree and obnoxious. At first I thought this meant that the medication was working, it never dawned on me that I was changing for the worse. I was 19 at the time and in college. I stopped caring about school, all of a sudden it wasnt important to me anymore. All of a sudden learning wasn’t important, getting a career wasn’t important. I started becomming obsessed with celebrity gossip , fashion, partying, and other trivial things. I went from liking Alt and Classic rock to listening to Britney Spears. I started smoking. Suddenly drugs and alcohol appealed to me, when I had always been highly against any of that. I started smoking weed, drinking, taking vicodin and eventually doing heroin. I ended up in prison. In a matter of a year and a half 2009-2010 I went from a quiet, diligent college student to promiscuous drug addict and criminal. Since then, I spent 2010-2013 in and out rehabs and psych wards. I’ve been on every psychiatric med under the sun and was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. In March of last year (2014) I decided I was going to rid myself of everything. I wanted to see how I’d function with no medication. Fast forward to today (Feb 2015), I’m 26, back in college, I have a job, I am quiet and calm, and my true personality has come back. I love to read and listen to rock music. I love computers. I love learning. My craving for drugs and alcohol gradually subsided once I got off the Effexor and seroquel and trazodone and lamictal. I have zero interest in that lifestyle, It just vanished and I always wonder why and how. I went through hell, I have to admit, I went through a good 2 months of withdrawal. But, I devoted the rest of 2014 to resetting my mind and body. As well as I’m doing without medication, I’ve caused myself a lot of permanent damage to my life. I’ve lost friends, family, dignity, And most importantly , my future. I’m now left with a criminal record and will forever feel the repercussions from my erratic, wreckless, out of character behavior. Like I said, I can’t place the blame on antidepressants. Drugs were also involved and I take full responsibility for my actions. But, I can’t help but wonder if I would have taken an interest in drugs, alcohol, and an overall erratic lifestyle the first place, had I never taken that first Lexapro back in 2009. My personality completely changed and I didn’t recognize myself. Unfortunately, I’ll never know. Jeez I’m sorry this is so long, I had intended to keep this brief lol
Dude, take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everything on your Lexapro!
Antidepressants cause personality changes, that’s pretty easy to find out. I don’t know what information you have considered before making an unqualified comment like ‘Dude, take responsibility for your actions and stop blaming everything on your Lexapro!’. I’m pretty sure you haven’t researched or made any experiences with antidepressants yourself.
Never again.
I was on Escitalopram for several years, diagnosed for generalized anxiety disorder. The development of personality changes were quite rapid, but totally unnoticed by myself. Now, 9 years later, I’m recovering from manic psychosis after losing my jobs as a business executive in two companies. Some doctor diagnosed me as a bipolar, surprisingly enough those meds seem to cause bipolarity.
I disagreed with that diagnose, started to find out what is wrong. The final truth seems to me NCGS – non celiac gluten sensitivity combined with sensitivity to coffee, artificial sweeteners, flavor enhancers, azo colors, etc..
For a long time, thought those pills were godsend. I was horribly wrong.
As a result, I consider western medication as a crime against humanity. My message for those companies: “Thanks for nothing!”
Five years ago, my husband experienced a significant depressive episode following the birth of our second child. At that time he started taking Celexa and benzos for sleeping, and saw a therapist for a few months. During the past few years he has changed into a person I do not recognize. We separated a year ago, after I discovered multiple affairs, misspent marital money, etc. He has a ton of family history of significant mental illness (schizophrenia & depression) and I see elements of bipolar and narcissism in him – your message made me wonder about whether the long-term effects of Celexa may have played a role in these changes. I should clarify that all of his relationships have deteriorated – his friendships, those with his family, his work relationships, etc (in other words, its not just the scorned wife!). He was always extremely competent and likable – but no longer exhibits these qualities. At this point, he isn’t listening to me or his family – so I guess I’m not really looking for advice about intervening, just support and insight.
Pls go back to him for he doesn’t know what he had been doing. These chemicals just take away all your behavioural controls and make you a vegetable that is alive but doesn’t know anything around. I am telling you this with authority bcoz i have gone thru similarly worst scenario for 10 yrs and my dear wife just tolerated all the inhuman tortures but never gave up. Today i regret and repent over each and every incident and yet i have no clue why i was ever behaving an animal. Pl go back to him, he needs help, not a push away.
I am on citalopram now for the second time in my life. The first time I was put on it it changed me into the person I wished to be. Happy, care free and confident. It also switched ON my libido. Having went my entire teens, straight, but not busting a gut to get laid, on the citalopram I was like a dog in heat, a man on a mission. It ended with me meeting my gf who I still live with after 6 years and have a child with. After meeting her, I ended the citalopram as it did cause delayed ejaculation, but that could well be a positive for most people. I have slipped into major depression again recently and am now enduring day 2 of the side effects. Day one was the worst side effects included, headache, muscle ache, irregular heart rate, nausea, extreme fatigue, weakness, restless leg syndrome, insomnia and low blood sugar. Today I am experiencing less fatigue and low blood sugar ( I assume due to extreme hunger) but other side affects have gone and I even got a good 8 hours sleep.
What I do know, is yes they may be dangerous, but the fact of the matter is depression is the result of low serotonin levels in the brain, ssris increase that level and make you better again , in time. (6-8 weeks). I plan on taking them for 3 months and then taper the use off gradually.
Hi, Ross. Really sympathize with you on your attempt to discontinue citalopram. I Withdrew from Remeron after eleven years. It took me two years to taper and that was still to fast. Even today I suffer withdrawal effects. But for me it was the right decision and I will NEVER regret it. I am now able to think and enjoy life in a way I’d forgotten while I was in the drugs.
Please log onto “Surviving Antidepressants” and take a look around the website. It’s mission is to help people WD correctly from antidepresants. Yes, there is a correct way. Most doctors don’t have a clue. It’s a real travesty.
And despite what you’ve been told about how AD’s work, nobody really has a clue. The serotonin “hypothesis” is really just that. What it does do, among other things is depress your body’ s cortisol response and totally scramble ALL neurotransmitters. There are a number of different neurotransmitters, all seeking to keep the brain in balance. By suppressing the production of one, all others are thrown into disarray.
These drugs are NOT your friend. Don’t believe everything the pharmaceutical industry and their puppets, the physicians, are spouting to you.
Trust NO ONE! Good healing to you!
Hi Nan.. really an encouraging write up. I agree that ADs are not friends and the hypothesis is absolutely an economic agenda by megapharmacos. I have made a big mistake in my life by withdrawing Venlafaxine and clonazepam abruptly in 2013 after taking them for 10 long years. I went through terrible withdrawal and still not stable, just struggling with life and keeping patience that things will change for better with time, but still in horrible state, physically and mentally both. Only one biggest strength God has gifted me is that my wife is super supportive. I cannot thank her enough in this lifetime.
Any genuine advise?
Hi, Kuldeep, you are indeed blessed to have such an understanding wife to stand with you through this. I don’t think I could have come this far without my husband’s support. I know this whole process of WD is frightening to everyone who knows and loves us. They will never know how soul killing this recovery process is. I hope you tell her how much you love her everyday!
My advise to you is to stay strong. Engage in good behaviors every day. Eat right, learn to meditate if you don’t already, get gentle exercise every day if possible, and control stress. That’s the hard one! And please take a look around the website ” Surviving Antidepressants.org”. There’s a wealth of information there on AD withdrawal.
I withdrew fairly slowly, two years, but here I am three and a half years later and am still struggling with daily agitation, dizzyness, panic. Once again, though, I will NEVER regret withdrawal. It’s wonderful to feel again and think again.
Please, hang in there. Be kind and patient with yourself. The horrible things you feel right now are withdrawal. They will pass and you will recover!
I’ve been on and off ADs for 20 years. Whenever I taper off following my psychiatrist’s instructions and do poorly, he keeps telling me that it’s not withdrawal; it’s a return of depression/anxiety, and back on a medication I go. He tells me I have “treatment resistant depression/anxiety” and that I need to be on ADs for life. Sounds like something right out of pharmaceutical company literature, no? I don’t feel it is true in my case. It’s the drugs themselves.
I truly feel what I am experiencing is the neurological effects of the medications. I don’t even think it’s perimenopause or hormonal. I can sense the neurological changes.
Why are psychiatrists not trained in very slow weans? Why do psychiatrists insist that what you experience when weaning off ADs is a relapse of depression/anxiety, and not withdrawal from the meds? How do you all distinguish between this?
How do you explain to spouses, family members, friends that your behavior is from withdrawal from the meds, and not your actual personality?
I don’t know how or if I will ever get my life back. Every time I try to taper off these darn things, I have such terrible effects and land right back on them.
Hi, Amy, I will point you in the direction of ” survivingantidepressants.org”. There is a wealth of Information there for people JUST like you. Believe your intuition on this matter.
There is a way to slowly, safely withdraw from these poisons. It will take time but really, that’s what we have in our favor.
I could NEVER believe how a synthetic, manmade chemical could possibly target the specific cause of our depression and make us well again. It just didn’t make sense to me. Particularly for those of us who tolerated the side effects for years, like metabolic changes (increased cholesterol, increased blood sugar, weight changes, decreased white blood cell counts, memory loss, decreased ability to mount a vigilance response to stress, etc. etc. ).
Most Dr’s don’t know ANYTHING about proper tapering. So, you’re correct. Taper too fast and you will go into depression. Your brain was hijacked by these poisons years ago and now only answers to the presence of the drug. Do you remember first starting these things and the warning it was going to take 6 to 8 weeks to feel the effects? For me it took years until my brain was brought into full drug control and I no longer felt depressed. Unfortunately by that time I also could no longer think!
And yes, the depression you feel with too fast tapering is by far the WORSE depression you have ever felt! Been there, done that!
So, you see the prescribers have it made! Stay on the drugs and maybe you’ll have relief. Go off of them and you’re bound to go off the cliff. At least if you WD the way they say to.
Please, go to the website,look around, begin asking questions and form a plan. Many members are like you. Many, many years on drugs and they are in various stages of withdrawal. Their experiences will guide you and they are always available for support!
I would argue that SSRIs (or serotonin specifically) do not treat depression. Serotonin is a tranquilizer and blunts emotional/anxious ups and downs. Someone with depressive symptoms due to an anxiety disorder might take such an effect to mean “antidepressant”. However, emotionality is not depression: depression is a blunting of emotion and motivation. SSRIs over the long haul, while good for anxiety, are probably a DEPRESSANT.
This tranquilizing/dulling effect, for me, is akin to drinking alcohol. And…..I don’t like it. Sure, it’ll relax you, but at what price? I’ve taken one or more of these god forsaken pills for 15+ years and am finally off them (initially treated for OCD). Admittedly, my emotions are running high and low right now but I am riding it out. For me, it beats the agitation, restlessness, and suffocating fatigue these pills cause.
How did you get off of them, and how are you dealing with the withdrawal side effects? Aren’t the withdrawal side effects worse than the original anxiety/depression?
Amy.. I couldn’t figure out if ur question is to me or someone else.. anyways, we all are sailing in the same titanic, so it hardly matters who is asking whom..
My withdrawal was an impulsive decision. I had tried slow taper a couple of times and failed.. then i thought that such turtle speed will need atleast 6-12 months of patience and that would be too long.. one day, on 1st oct 2012 morn i decided not to touch this tabs again. I thought better to quickly go thru the ugly phase of few weeks.. I never anticipated the horrifying time to come.. 3 days, 5 days, 10.. 15.. then i couldn’t turn back, it was like go thru it anyhow.. 30 months have passed and i am still in the same rough waters, except that thought process has become 70-80% clearer, but physically it is HELL.. there are no proper words to express how a person feels, and nobody around believes us, or may be nobody can actually understand this suffering. It all seems like neurological symptoms, general controls are less, can’t stand or walk normal, can’t talk normally, sleep is just a memory of past.. dizziness, problem in connecting with others (incl family n friends).. can’t do any work more than few mins at a time, head muscles keep twitching with spasms like sensation, irritated responses to smallest matters, agitation for no reason, can’t enjoy food, breathing is not satisfactory, blood pressure keeps fluctuating, while passing thru familiar streets it feels like i don’t know where i am? super mrkts and crowds are most uncomforting, can’t involve in any socials, sudden pounding heartbeats, fears, anxieties, panic attacks… It’s a whole different world.
only two people understand this, ME & MYSELF.
Dunno. Got similar effect with a less activating SSRI like escitalopram. That is increased depression if anything but lowered anxietylevels like with alcohol. But if your’e statement is generally true it would mean that one could get the same effect from benzodiazepines. However studies points to even escitalopram may have an antidepressive effect. Even if it was not they would still whine about benzodiazepine despite usually being better in an anxiolytic sense is prone to increase tolerance or cause addiction.
Ive tried a few different anti-depressants and now after being off them for a few weeks I can now see how they wreaked havoc on my personality and mental equilibrium. I admit they could be helpful for people in a severe depression in the short term, but for people like me (minor depression and anxiety), they completely stripped me of my humanity. I just felt like I didn’t care at all about anyone else, I felt no connection to people, and the only strong emotion I had was angry. The not caring is not the depression speaking because I didn’t feel that before, I did care I would just get a bit blue sometimes. Anti-depressants are NOT “happy pills”, they don’t make you happy, they just mask a few of the depressive symptoms. Not to mention my concentration and memory were effected to. Not worth it.
If you suffer from Depression/Anxiety DONT TAKE ANTIDEPRESSENTS, they don’t work trust me, all they do is make you gain wieght and effect the way you think.
I have been left completely mentally and physically disabled my the antidepressant mirtazapine. I have lost my soul – no feelings and unable to connect to anyone around me. I only sleep 3 hours tops at night. I have tardive dysphoria – and un-treatable depression (I never had depression prior to this medication) and lots of deliberating withdrawal effects on top. It has destroyed me and my children. Getting any of the medical professionals to believe such damage has occurred because of this drug is just impossible. I have no way of getting any validation and my life is no longer a life. Permanent damage is possible…I am proof.
Try homoeopathy bro…..it you will gain your life back
I strongly suggest you read the books written by Dr. Peter Breggin, (and perhaps set up an apt to see him). He believes you and you are not alone.
When we are messed up, Jesus can fix it! He has a reputation as a healer.
Get out your Bible and ask Him for help. He has known you since before you were born and has been there every second if your life. He can get you out of this mess.
The Bible does have the answers. Sometimes, though it’s important to keep the dr. involved also…The right doctor.
Hi Cathy
Its true the good book will help, and for most antidepressants will make them feel better about themselves, but its the people around them that suffer thhere partners parents and siblings and this is only seen by the prescribed long after the damage has been done, antidepressants make you feel like far better person when your taking them but you dont realize dat your emotions are so out of cink that you say and do tge most horrid things without ever paying it a second thought and for the most part you get so detached from the real you that you dont realize the damage the cause to your partner and children in particular if ur young free and single well they are made for you, ive work in the medical industry for 48 years and only retired in 2012 and from 2004 onward ive not prescribed any ssri class ADS at all and no natural ADS such as gingko bilbao or st johns worth or tibetan rhodalia to an one in a relatiinship or that have children.
I agree with you. He is the Healer that heals every disease. no disease is he incapable of healing.
Yes – I believe Jesus can fix it. I hope he does soon because I am losing my mind and have been quite angry with God. I have had enough of this rediculous ness. Living how I am isn’t a life. This has been going on for a very long time (most of my life in fact) and has got worse.
Tomorrow I will see my neurologist and have many questions to ask him.
I think I’ve been tested long enough and have had enough of living like I’m only existing. I feel guilty for being a burden on my family.
Josephine
What do you mean by mentally and physically damaged?
Hi, Sara, I too used remeron for nearly eleven years, been off for almost 3 1/2 years and am still a real wreck. If you’d like to visit sometime, email me.
Sarah ~ my heart goes out to you … you are never broken ……..Women Who Run with the Wolves be Dr. Clarissa Pinkola Estes, Ph.D
*** i mean, you can never lose your soul
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Sarah.. you are 101% correct, this chemicals are capable of doing permanent damages to brain functions. However, we the victims have to fight it with strong will power and trust in God that he has created a system which heals if given right environment. Just think of people who have terminal illnesses and they know their time is limited and yet they have to go through the ordeal. Dear life is never going to be absolutely smooth unless we lye in our graves, till then struggle is a mandatory part, so handle it with mindfulness as much as possible.
In the meantime, try to see youtube videos of Dr. Mahesh Gandhi, he is a MD psych turned homeopath and international name helping people with good long term results, i find that this men understands human psych better than most experts, but do watch atleast 5-7 videos before you decide anything.
I am practically going through the same thing myself. Just keep fighting and trusting in God to get you through this.
I’ve experience Tardive Dyskinesia from an antipsychotic. Do I have legal recourse?
You have to prove causality. Good luck with that. Even if you prove it, the lawyers for Big pHarma will beat you down and take everything you have.
Your life doesn’t matter to them, so why should there’s matter to you? Just take them to court to get at them, then gun them down. That’s the only way they’re gonna learn IMO