This is an update of an article I published in 2011. I affirm that animal products are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat and that vegetarians and vegans are at risk for multiple nutrient deficiencies. I have included up-to-date research and expanded the list of nutrients that are often lacking in vegetarian and vegan diets.
Maybe you have considered going vegetarian or vegan for the health benefits. Or maybe you know someone who feels strongly about it as an ethical choice, and you wonder if they can really follow the diet in a healthy way. I respect these reasons and appreciate anyone who thinks deeply about the social and spiritual impact of their food choices—even if my own exploration of these questions has led me to a different answer.
But many choose a vegetarian diet because they’re under the impression that it’s a healthier choice from a nutritional perspective. It is this last reason that I’d like to address in this article. For the last 50-plus years, we’ve been told that meat, eggs, and animal fats are bad for us and that we’ll live longer and enjoy superior health if we minimize or avoid them. This idea has been so thoroughly drilled into our heads that few people even question it anymore. In fact, if you asked the average person on the street whether a vegetarian or vegan diet is healthier than an omnivorous diet, they’d probably say yes. But is this really true?
If You Want Nutrient-Dense Foods, You Need to Eat Animal Products
Plant-based diets emphasize vegetables, which are quite nutrient dense, and fruits, which are somewhat nutrient dense. They also typically include large amounts of cereal grains (refined and unrefined) and legumes, both of which are low in bioavailable nutrients and high in anti-nutrients like phytate. Most importantly, vegetarian and vegan diets eschew organ meats, other meats, and fish and shellfish, which are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat. (1)
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Vegan diets, in particular, are almost completely devoid of certain nutrients that are crucial for physiological function. Deficiencies can take months or years to develop, and many are easily missed because they are not routinely tested for in primary care settings. Several studies have shown that both vegetarians and vegans are prone to deficiencies in:
- Vitamin B12
- Calcium
- Iron
- Zinc
- Long-chain fatty acids EPA and DHA
- Fat-soluble vitamins like A and D
Let’s take a closer look at each of these nutrients.
Vegetarian and Vegan Diets Don’t Provide Enough Vitamin B12
B12 deficiency is especially common in vegetarians and vegans. To properly evaluate B12 status, total serum vitamin B12 isn’t enough. A better marker for vitamin B12 is holotranscobalamin II, the biologically active fragment, which should be measured along with total homocysteine and methylmalonic acid. Low B12 is correlated with low holotranscobalamin II, while homocysteine and methylmalonic acid are usually increased in later stages of vitamin B12 deficiency. (2) The most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that up to 77 percent of vegetarians and 92 percent of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 11 percent of omnivores. (3, 4, 5)
Vitamin B12 works together with folate in the synthesis of DNA and red blood cells. It’s also involved in the production of the myelin sheath around the nerves and the conduction of nerve impulses. B12 deficiency can cause numerous symptoms, including:
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Weakness
- Memory loss
- Neurological and psychiatric problems
- Anemia
- And much more …
It’s a common myth among vegetarians and vegans that it’s possible to get B12 from plant sources like:
- Seaweed
- Fermented soy
- Spirulina
- Brewer’s yeast
These plant foods don’t contain B12. They contain B12 analogs, called cobamides, that block the intake of—and increase the need for—true B12. (6) Researchers have identified purple laver nori (seaweed) as a plant source of bioavailable B12; however, it could contain high levels of cadmium and arsenic. (7, 8, 9, 10) More studies are needed, but there is a potentially serious problem with relying on purple laver nori for adequate B12.
If You’re Vegan, You Might Be Missing out on Calcium
You know that calcium is important for bone health, but did you know it’s essential for muscle and nerve function and that it’s involved in blood clotting? On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products). Vegans, however, are often deficient. (11, 12, 13)
Calcium bioavailability from plant foods is affected by their levels of oxalate and phytate, which are inhibitors of calcium absorption and thus decrease the amount of calcium the body can extract from plant foods. (10) So while leafy greens like spinach and kale have a relatively high calcium content, the calcium is not efficiently absorbed during digestion.
One study suggests that it would take 16 servings of spinach to get the same amount of absorbable calcium as an eight-ounce glass of milk. (14) That would be 33 cups of baby spinach or around five or six cups of cooked spinach. There are a few vegetables listed in this paper that have higher levels of bioavailable calcium, but it’s important to note that all of the vegetables tested required multiple servings to achieve the same amount of usable calcium as one single serving of milk, cheese, or yogurt.
This suggests that trying to meet your daily calcium needs from plant foods alone might not be a great strategy. For those who don’t tolerate dairy well, fish with edible bones like sardines are great sources of calcium on a Paleo diet.
You’re Also More Likely to Be Iron-Deficient on a Plant-Based Diet
Vegetarians and omnivores often have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores. (15, 16) This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency.
For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40 percent of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance. (17) Among Australian men, iron intake among vegetarians and vegans was 29 to 49 percent higher than omnivores, but their serum ferritin concentrations were barely half that of omnivores. (18) Despite similar iron intakes, another study published this year showed vegans and female vegetarians having low ferritin levels. (19)
Why would this be? As with calcium, the bioavailability of the iron in plant foods (nonheme iron) is much lower than in animal foods (heme iron). Plant-based forms of iron are also inhibited by other commonly consumed substances, such as:
- Coffee
- Tea
- Dairy products
- Supplemental fiber
- Supplemental calcium
This explains why vegetarian diets have been shown to reduce nonheme iron absorption by 70 percent and total iron absorption by 85 percent. (20, 21)
Red Meat, Fish, and Poultry Are Your Best Sources for Zinc
Zinc is important for the immune system, cell growth, and wound healing. You won’t usually see overt zinc deficiency in Western vegetarians, but their intake often falls below recommendations, probably because red meat, poultry, and fish are the best sources.
This is another case where bioavailability is important; many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35 percent compared with an omnivorous diet. (22) Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. (23) One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50 percent more zinc than omnivores for this reason. (24) A meta-analysis of 34 studies found that both zinc intakes and serum zinc concentrations were lower in vegetarians than non-vegetarians. (25)
You Might Be Missing out on the Benefits of Essential Fatty Acids
Plant foods do contain linoleic acid (omega-6) and alpha-linolenic acid (ALA, omega-3), both of which are considered essential fatty acids. In this context, an essential fatty acid is one that can’t be synthesized by the body and must be obtained in the diet. However, an increasing body of research has highlighted the benefits of the long-chain omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA. These fatty acids play a protective and therapeutic role in a wide range of diseases: (26, 27)
- Cancer
- Asthma
- Depression
- Alzheimer’s disease
- Cardiovascular disease
- ADHD
- Autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis
While it is possible for some ALA from plant foods to be converted into EPA and DHA, that conversion is poor in humans: between 5 and 10 percent for EPA and 2 and 5 percent for DHA. (28)
Although no official recommendation exists, the daily suggested intake of combined DHA and EPA is around 250 to 500 mg. In theory, this means vegans and vegetarians would need to consume between five and 12.5 grams of ALA per day to obtain 250 mg of DHA. In reality, vegetarians and vegans consume merely 0.97 g/day and 0.86 g/day of ALA, respectively, according to a study of over 14,000 Americans. (29)
Vegetarians have 30 percent lower levels of EPA and DHA than omnivores, while vegans have 50 percent lower EPA and nearly 60 percent lower DHA. (30, 31) Moreover, the conversion of ALA to DHA depends on zinc, iron, selenium, and pyridoxine—nutrients that vegetarians and vegans are less likely than omnivores to get enough of. (32, 33, 34, 35) Eating 12 to 16 ounces of cold-water fatty fish per week remains the best way to get adequate EPA and DHA. The fish will also provide bioavailable protein and selenium.
Vitamins A and D: What You’re Missing
Fat-soluble vitamins play numerous and critical roles in human health. Vitamin A promotes healthy immune function, fertility, eyesight, and skin. Vitamin D regulates calcium metabolism, regulates immune function, reduces inflammation, and protects against some forms of cancer.
These important fat-soluble vitamins are concentrated, and in some cases found almost exclusively, in animal foods like:
- Seafood
- Organ meats
- Eggs
- Dairy products
Some obscure species of mushrooms can provide large amounts of vitamin D, but these mushrooms are rarely consumed and often difficult to obtain. This explains why vitamin D levels are often low in vegetarians and even lower in vegans. (36, 37, 38, 39)
The idea that plant foods contain vitamin A is a common misconception. Plants contain beta-carotene, the precursor to active vitamin A (retinol). While beta-carotene is converted into vitamin A in humans, the conversion is inefficient. (40, 41) For example, a single serving of liver per week would meet the RDA of 3,000 IU. To get the same amount from plant foods, you’d have to eat two cups of carrots, one cup of sweet potatoes, or two cups of kale every day.
Moreover, traditional cultures consumed up to 10 times the current RDA for vitamin A. It would be nearly impossible to get this amount of vitamin A from plant foods without juicing or taking supplements. And if supplements aren’t consumed with a fatty meal, the actual absorption will be low. (42)
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Vegans and Vegetarians, You Could Be Missing These Key Nutrients
If you don’t eat meat or other animal products, you could also be missing out on:
- Choline
- Creatine
- Taurine
- Methionine
- Glycine
- Selenium
Choline
Vegetarian and vegan diets, along with the Standard American Diet, pose risks of choline deficiency. (43) Choline is required for:
- Healthy cell membrane function
- Methylation
- Cognitive development in children
It’s so important that the FDA recently set a daily recommended intake of 550 mg for men and 425 mg for women, which should increase to 450 mg during pregnancy and 550 mg during breastfeeding. Recent research suggests that only 8.5 percent of women meet the daily choline requirement. (44) With egg yolks and organ meats as the most potent sources of choline, it’s not surprising that even omnivores are not getting enough. This is another reason I encourage giving organ meat dishes another try.
Creatine
Creatine plasma and muscle levels are usually lower in vegetarians than in omnivores, as meat provides the richest source of creatine. (45) Creatine may play an important role in cognitive function. A randomized controlled trial found that six weeks of oral creatine supplementation significantly improved vegetarians’ performance on tests of fluid intelligence and working memory. The difference in scores between groups was enormous. (46)
Another study found that creatine supplementation in vegetarians improved memory, while having no effect on fluid intelligence or working memory in meat-eaters. (47) These results suggest that vegetarians’ baseline scores may have been impaired due to low creatine intake.
Taurine
Taurine has a central role as a neurotransmitter, promotes the development of the central nervous system, and upholds the structure of cell membranes. Although the body can synthesize small amounts of taurine, vegetarians and vegans often still have low plasma and urinary taurine levels because taurine is found primarily in animal products. (48, 49) Low plasma taurine in newborns is associated with lower scores on mental development and arithmetic tests at age seven, suggesting that dietary taurine aids in neural development. (50)
Methionine
Methionine is another amino acid that is restricted on a plant-based diet. Low methionine intake has been linked to longevity in scientific research. However, methionine is still an essential amino acid, and too little methionine may impair detoxification and reduce fertility. (51, 52) After being activated using ATP, methionine becomes the universal methyl donor.
On the flip side, too much methionine can also pose problems. After methyl donation, methionine becomes homocysteine and must be recycled back to methionine by B12, folate, or betaine (derived from choline). Because meat is high in methionine, diets heavy in muscle meats but low in connective tissues can result in increased homocysteine levels, a risk factor for CVD.
That said, studies have shown that vegetarians and vegans have significantly higher homocysteine levels on average than omnivores. (53) In one study, the average homocysteine level among vegetarians was 13.9 nmol/L and among vegans, 16.4 nmol/L, compared to 11.3 nmol/L for omnivores. (54) This puts most vegetarians and vegans in a range that carries significant risk of CVD. In fact, according to one study, the prevalence of hyperhomocysteinemia among vegetarians may actually be higher than that among non-vegetarians already diagnosed with heart disease. (55)
Glycine
Vegetarians and vegans don’t consume as much glycine as meat-eaters, as the richest sources are the “odd bits” of animal foods, like: (56)
- Skin
- Bones
- Collagen
- Gelatin
Glycine is one of the building blocks of collagen, found in our connective tissues. In addition to its structural role, glycine can also act as a neurotransmitter, plays a role in blood sugar regulation, and stimulates the production of glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. (57, 58, 59, 60)
Some Paleo dieters can be susceptible to low glycine intake, too, if they are eating tons of muscle meat and ignoring the “nose-to-tail” philosophy. Glycine helps balance out methionine levels, in part by acting as a buffer for excess methyl groups. Low choline and glycine intake, common in vegetarians and vegans, can further contribute to high homocysteine levels and increased risk of CVD. Eating bone broth regularly can help balance glycine/methionine levels.
Selenium
While a few studies show no difference in selenium status among diet types, most research shows lower intake and/or levels in vegetarians and vegans compared to omnivores, including one study that measured glutathione peroxidase, a selenium-dependent enzyme and an excellent marker of active selenium status. (61, 62, 63, 64) Selenium has a role in immune function, supports thyroid hormone synthesis, and protects the thyroid from excess iodine damage. (65, 66) Selenium also helps prevent mercury toxicity. (67)
Selenium deficiency is also common in those with digestive health issues like Crohn’s disease or celiac disease. (68, 69) The best sources of selenium include:
- Brazil nuts
- Crimini mushrooms
- Some sea foods
- Chicken
- Eggs
- Lamb
- Turkey
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Eating Animal Products Could Also Help Your Thyroid Health
Thyroid hormone synthesis requires iodine, a nutrient that can be lacking from omnivore and plant-based diets alike. Most iodine comes from the sea; the soil—and therefore vegetables grown in soil—usually contains very little. In a typical mixed diet, the highest sources of iodine are iodized salt and animal products like:
- Dairy products
- Eggs
- Seafood
Vegetarians and vegans are at risk for low iodine intake. (70)
In the Boston area, urinary iodine levels in vegans were barely half that of vegetarians, and vegans were at high risk of iodine deficiency. (71) Several studies of Scandinavian populations confirm that vegans finished last in iodine intake and/or urinary iodine levels. (72, 73, 74) To make matters worse, isoflavones found in soy products, which are sometimes consumed in large quantities in vegan and vegetarian diets, may exacerbate iodine deficiency and hypothyroidism. (75)
But even those following a Paleo template can be at risk for iodine deficiency if they are not regularly consuming seafood. (76) Sea vegetables, especially kelp, are the highest sources of iodine ounce for ounce.
Your Kids Need Nutrient-Dense Foods to Thrive
Because of the prevailing idea in our culture that vegetarian and vegan diets are healthy, more and more children are being raised from birth (and even from conception!) on meat-free diets. Both the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND) and USDA have said that vegetarian and vegan diets are safe during pregnancy, but critical analyses by several researchers have questioned whether these recommendations are based on sufficient evidence. One review remarked that “the evidence on vegan–vegetarian diets in pregnancy is heterogeneous and scant,” suggesting that more research is needed to answer the question of whether they are, in fact, safe during pregnancy. (77)
Vegetarian and vegan diets for children carry significant risks of nutrient deficiencies that can have dire health consequences. (78, 79, 80)
Studies have shown that kids raised until age six on a vegan diet are still B12 deficient years after adding at least some animal products to their diet. One study found an association between B12 status and measures of intelligence and memory, with formerly vegan kids scoring lower than omnivorous kids. (81) Devastating case studies have reported B12 deficiency in young vegan children that have led to neurological damage and developmental delays. (82, 83)
Low nutrient intake extends beyond vitamin B12. Other case studies have attributed hypothyroidism in young children to a maternal and/or childhood vegan diet. (84, 85) Compared to omnivores, breast milk from vegan mothers had lower levels of DHA and EPA, which are vital for brain development, especially in the first year of life, when a baby’s brain literally doubles in size. (83) In short, just like adults, children on vegetarian and vegan diets often have lower intakes of iron, iodine, vitamin A, zinc, and more.
Your Best Choice for Optimal Nutrition Isn’t a Vegetarian or Vegan Diet, but a Paleo Template
With care and attention, I think it’s possible to meet most of your nutrient needs with a vegetarian diet that includes liberal amounts of pasture-raised, full-fat dairy and eggs, with one exception: EPA and DHA. These long-chain omega fats are found exclusively in marine algae and fish and shellfish, so the only way to get them on a vegetarian diet would be to take a microalgae supplement or bend the rules and take fish oil or cod liver oil as a supplement. (86) Still, while it may be possible to obtain adequate nutrition on a vegetarian diet, it is not optimal—as the research above indicates.
I don’t think it’s possible to meet nutrient needs on a vegan diet without supplements—and quite a few of them. Vegan diets are low in:
- B12
- Bioavailable iron and zinc
- Choline
- Vitamins A and D
- Calcium
- EPA and DHA
It’s worth pointing out that there are genetic differences that affect the conversion of certain nutrient precursors (like beta-carotene and alpha-linolenic acid) into the active forms of those nutrients (like retinol and EPA and DHA, respectively), and these differences may affect how long someone will be able to follow a vegetarian or vegan diet before they develop nutrient deficiencies. This explains why some people seem to do well for years on these diets, while others develop problems very quickly.
Is It Time to Rethink Your Diet?
From an evolutionary perspective, is difficult to justify a diet with low levels of several nutrients critical to human function. While it may be possible to address these shortcomings through targeted supplementation (an issue that is still debated), it makes far more sense to meet your nutritional needs from food.
This is especially important for children, who are still developing and are even more sensitive to suboptimal intake of the nutrients discussed in this article. Like all parents, vegetarians and vegans want the best for their children. Unfortunately, many are not aware of the potential for nutrient deficiencies posed by their dietary choices.
I hope this article can serve as a resource for anyone on a plant-based diet, whether they choose to start eating meat (or animal products, in the case of vegans) again or not.
As a Bachelor’s prepared RN who made straight As in nutrition, I couldn’t pass without a comment. I have COMFORTABLY converted to a plant based diet, free of anything processed for the most part. I do occasionally eat yogurt, cheese, egg whites, and humanely raised beef and fish. However, a diet of plants is no less healthy than a carnivorous diet. Humans are fit to eat plants and animals, diary is a bit more in question (after about 18 months of age we no longer need diary). An big consideration is balance. The real issue from a nutritional standpoint is chemicals, over cooking, and incorrect proportions of nutrients. The real social issue is the lack of stewardship and the disregard for animals in the way we raise them as a food/goods source. The author of this article hasn’t adequately researched this issue, and hasn’t indicated medical training of any kind. This is of great concern to me because these days folks take anything they read on the web as gospel, and this article is inaccurate and misleading. If you want the answers to your individual dietary needs, refer to a licensed medical professional or 2 or 3. And remember, the unnatural chemicals in our foods (foods are all broken down into chemical molecular components…your body doesn’t see chicken, it sees chemical components of chicken) alter us on an atomic level, often permanently. More so than meat vs plants, the issue should be how you can consume a healthy balanced diet free of contaminants.
I just read this, and I’m thinking, will becoming vegetarian help me lose weight? Well I’m almost a teenager (age is just a number folks, I am actually very tall and mature for my age) and I’ve overweight for almost my whole life. I can’t really give up meat (my race is basically revolves around meat, if you know what I mean. I don’t think I worded it right). But I will try if it will help me lose weight along with exercise. I’ve read about all the nutritional deficiencies, and I really don’t want them because I’m only young and I don’t want my grades to drop. So I’m kind of split two ways with this decision. Should I go vegetarian, or is there a healthier option?
‘ I’ve read about all the nutritional deficiencies, and I really don’t want them because I’m only young and I don’t want my grades to drop ‘ What I really meant is that I don’t want to get ill from deficiencies.
You are very “UNINFORMED” and old fashioned. If you are eating a balanced plant based nutrition, you don’t have anything to worry about. It is the meat that is full of cholesterol and fat and is linked to cancer, diabetes and obesity among many other diseases.
Unfortunately your information appears outdated. Please google “Cholesterol in food not a concern, new report says. (FEB 19, 2005) and I quote: “The 2015 DGAC – evidence shows NO appreciable relationship between consumption of dietary cholesterol and serum blood cholesterol, consistent with the AHA/ACC (Am. Heart assoc./Am. College of Cardiology) report. Cholesterol is NOT a nutrient of concern for overconsumption.” Only 15% of circulating cholesterol comes from what you eat; the remainder, from the liver – according to a Dr. Steven Nissen at the Cleveland Clinic. Additionally, grass-fed beef has healthy amounts of CLA (conjugated linoleic acid) in it which is heart healthy. Meat is NOT evil.
Ah the voice of reason, among all the moronic slamming, of a perfectly good vegetarian diet.
A plant based diet will not help you lose weight, necessarily. You need to eat carbs sparingly, and avoid processed foods because they have unnatural chemicals and high calorie sources that are hidden. Once you have removed processed foods, and an overabundance of carbs and high calorie foods, you should exercise. You can be a carnivore and be as thin as you can as a pescetarian, ova-vegetarian, lacto, etc. Moderation, caloric reduction, no processed foods, and exercise 🙂
Went vegetarian when I was 15 and vegan when I was 16. I am now 30 and extremely healthy.
Nothing wrong with that diet, fantastically healthy.
Honestly…. it doesn’t matter what you say, the FDA has recently published new guidelines urging people to consume less animal product. It is FACT that we consume far too much and we’re unhealthy because of it. Also, I’ve never met an unhealthy vegan/vegetarian who was doing it right. Yeah, you’re unhealthy if you’re not providing your body with the correct nutrients when you decide to cut something out. Animal product isn’t the only way to live, we can get our nutrients from a combination of all kinds non-animal products and this article glossed over that.That’s the beauty of the fact we have thousands of food items to choose from. Also, this is something people forget: EVERYONE’S BODY IS DIFFERENT so honestly there is no right or wrong choice when it comes to the health of your body because everyone digests and absorbs their nutrients differently. But let me tell you nothing from companies like Perdue or Tyson or any other “factory-farm” is good for you or healthy. If you choose meat/animal products pleace choose locally and educate yourself on the companies that produce it all. You will be surprised to find that there is a very damn good reason people becomes vegans and vegetarians… lol
I think the point of this article was not to say that a vegetarian or vegan diet is bad. It is more of a caution as to not assume that going vegetarian or vegan will automatically lead to a healthier lifestyle. It is instead wise to try out various healthy diets that may or may not contain animal products or byproducts.
I know for myself, I come from a family that has a very high metabolism, and due to this and an active lifestyle, something like a vegetarian diet is ultimately something I can’t do. I need animal products in order to consume all the nutrients I need to be healthy. That’s why there is no “one size fits all” diet out there. It just depends on the person’s lifestyle and body.
No human body needs animal products. You are eating a rotted flesh of an animal that was slaughtered, packaged and shipped from the other part of the country. It is full of antibiotic, hormones, steroids, feces and fear, not wanting to die. Your intestines are well over 20 plus feet long and meat stays in your system over 72 hours in 98.6 degree temperature, while your body is consuming so much energy to digest. While its rotting in your body, its distributing into your organs forming diseases and complications.
So you would throw hundreds of thousands of years of anthropological history out the window because, when you boil it down, eating meat hurts your feelings? See, this is EXACTLY why a lot of people despise vegans. Instead of keeping to themselves and being happy with their “superior diet choices,” they have to stand on a soap box and get all preachy to those who are eating the kind of diet man as a species has eaten since the dawn of time.
Absolutely well said!!
Factory farms where animals are unnecessarily tortured and abused their entire short lives have not been around since the dawn of time. There is no historical precedent that shines approval onto such horrific treatment of animals. Vegans speak for those who can’t. Silence is not an option no matter uncomfortable the discussions may be. “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world; indeed, it’s the only thing that ever has.”
You are dead wrong. Don’t worry about the distant past. Nobody really knows. The human body is vegan. That is all that matters.
I would disagree slightly with Eric. I think the reason many people are put off by vegans is not their hypocritical tone of moral superiority, but their disconnect from science. Rather than fact, they insist that we accept their mythmaking. Yes, we do know that early man, including modern early humans, were omnivores. The science is not open to dispute. As for the inane statement that the human body is vegan, perhaps you are composed of lignans and other green tissue, and have learned to photosynthesize. However, every other human body on this planet is actually MEAT. Just like the animals that some humans eat, we are composed of meat in all its forms. We are animal tissue. All vegans are composed of meat. You are what you eat only in a figurative sense.
This is also not accurate…meat or plant, all your body sees is chemicals. There is a chemical reaction to break the food down into molecular components, regardless of what it is. The molecules are moved around the body and used in various ways. This is a false and poorly researched argument!
You’re wrong. Different enzymes will help break up different chemicals. So the enzymes which break apart haemoglobin are not going to be the same enzymes that are needed to break apart whatever chemical holds plant-based iron.
All that is needed to properly absorb iron from plants is to eat it with a food high in vitamin C. The amino acids (which I think she was referring to) in plants and animals are all chemically the same.
Your intestines are about 1.5m long, that is correct. But food stays in your stomach and small intestines for around 6 to 8 hrs. This is a fact. No food is going to stay for 72 hrs, because then your intestines would be bloated and it would possible explode. Meat doesn’t rot in your intestines. While in the stomach, the gastric juices, which contain the enzyme pepsin, and hydrochloric acid, aid in the digestion of proteins, to form polypeptides.. In the small intestine, the pancrease secret trypsin which further breaks down the polypeptides into smaller peptides and amino acids.
It is not a “fact” that we consume too many animal products, it is solely your own (flawed) opinion. Processed meats that are full of hormones, antibiotics, and various unnatural additives are absolutely detrimental to people’s health when eaten in abundance. High-quality animal products, on the other hand? You’re embarrassing yourself.
I’ve been vegan for nearly four years. I recently had an exhaustive blood test, revealing only a vitamin D deficiency, which my doctor, and any decent researcher, reported most people in the Northern Hemisphere also have. High scores in all vitamin Bs, protein, high calcium & magnesium, zinc is fine, etc etc. Low cholesterol, low blood pressure 🙂 I’m not saying I’m a miracle vegan- I’m saying that you are likely wrong. 😀 cheers
Perhaps wrong for you, but not for others. It’s kinda like saying you studied for a test using flashcards and got an A and everyone else who didn’t use flashcards will fail, even though there are several other ways to study and still get an A. There is more than one right answer to this problem. If a vegan diet works for you, fantastic. If an omnivorous diet works for you, awesome.
Hi Elle,
Same here, over 3 years as a vegan, tests are amazing, low cholesterol, sugar and excellent levels all across. I couldn’t feel healthier.
Hate to break it to you, but it’s most likely your body cannibalizing itself for its remaining storage of nutrients. Blood tests aren’t detailed enough to expose these kinds of health problems. Many vegans experience those so-called perfect blood test results in the first few years before even that no longer lasts and their body turns malnourished and sick.
Her body is “cannibalizing itself”? Why, because she’s vegan? That’s ridiculous. I’ve eaten 100% plant-based for over a decade and have increasingly excellent health and lab results, much better than when I was eating meat and cheese. Many people have been vegan for decades, or all their lives, and are the epitome of health, particularly if they’re “whole food” vegans as opposed to “junk food” vegans. Google Ellsworth Wareham, M.D., vegan centenarian, as one example. Another is senior runner/cancer survivor Ruth Heidrich. Both have been vegan for decades and are stellar examples of good health and lives well lived.
Total crap, I have been vegetarian for 60 years and unknown to me, as i don’t consume animal products, apparently I have been a vegan without recognising the word.
So your castigations are utter rubbish.
It’s interesting that you have so few vitamin deficiencies. I had testable deficiencies in iron, Vitamin D, and B12 on an omnivore diet.
My doctor recommended the horse pills of B12, because I just didn’t absorb enough.
I tried going vegan, and within 7 weeks, my blood tests when from being fairly normal, to have glucose levels being near pre-diabetic, doubling triglycerides, and cholesterol levels so low that it was outside of the normal range. Within a few months, I was almost non-functional.
What I got most out of the article was that there are genetic components that explain why some people can do quite well, and some experience issues almost immediately.
That to me seems to fit why there are such varied experiences to people eating essentially the same diet.
Hi Wendy, The trouble is, all the people who are technically vegans are not “eating essentially the same diet.” Vegan diets vary greatly, just like omnivore diets do. Some vegans eat a healthy diet and some eat an unhealthy diet. Most omnivores who eat an unhealthy diet will end up with scary lab results, and most vegans who eat an unhealthy diet will also end up with scary lab results.
How topical, Jesus Fries. Read the article in The Natural News (Mike Adams blog) about how California is returning to the desert it was due to people “drinking” other people’s water – for their golf courses and for bottling for sale (Dasani, Coca Cola). Those who are annoyed by ethics will nonetheless eventually be forced to confront a truth beyond their own preferences. Unfortunately California also grows quite a bit of our produce so we’ll see how it goes. They’ll keep shifting the pieces to maintain the status quo until perhaps there is nowhere to shift them. Right now they’ve just announced a 25% water restriction – but not watering highway medians is not going to resolve this – too little too late. For a scare you’ll never forget watch Climate Refugees on Netflix and pay attention to what is happening in Calais.
I’ve watched all of the videos that you vegetarians ask me to. Scary? I don’t think so. Do you even know the right percentage of factories that abuse their animals? No? Until then, I wouldn’t even bother to think about becoming a vegetarian.
99.9 percent of chickens for meat, 97 percent of laying hens, 99 percent of turkeys, 95 percent of pigs, and 78 percent of cattle in the US comes from factory farms.
Source or evidence?
Disregarding the fact animals whether raised organically or factory farm still go to the same utterly unhumane slaughter houses (which means IMHO 100% of meat animals suffer) most people would agree factory farming is inherently cruel – below it the relevant section in the wiki entry, data credited to Worldwatch Institute.
“Factory farming is widespread in developed nations. According to the Worldwatch Institute, as of 2006, 74 percent of the world’s poultry, 43 percent of beef, and 68 percent of eggs were produced this way.[13] In the U.S., as of 2000 four companies produced 81 percent of cows, 73 percent of sheep, 60 percent of pigs, and 50 percent of chickens and according to its National Pork Producers Council, 80 million of its 95 million pigs slaughtered each year are reared in industrial settings”
There are studies showing that vegetarians live in average 3-4 years longer, so even with all these risks of vitamin deficiency the risk of having too much protein is much higher; proteins makes the body releases growth hormones that speeds up the aging process and makes our body deteriorate faster, not to mention animal fat as well as chemicals known to cause cancer found in meat when heated over 170 degrees celcius/centigrade.
Vegetarians are unhealthy on average, perhaps. But meat eaters are worse. Otherwise, vegetarians wouldn’t live longer.
But myself, I have cod liver oil, and some milk products, just to keep healthy. One needs 25 kg of vegetables to produce 1 kg of beef meat, so with the rising food prices for poor people around the world eating meat is extremely unethical. It’s basically stealing other peoples food.
I find no fault in your upper comment, but unethical? Really? That’s like saying that it’s unethical to drink water, because poor people have no access to clean water. Drinking clean water is basically stealing other people’s water.
Obviously it isn’t the same. Everyone needs water. Nobody needs meat, and eating it takes away valuable resources that can be used more efficiently to grow plant food.
That is ridiculous. Those vegetables wouldn’t otherwise find themselves halfway across the world and be put into the mouths of hungry people, they wouldn’t be produced at all. So are you basically murdering people by guilting them into a harder to manage diet that may not even be nutritious enough for them to live off from a genetic standpoint?
There’s no need for vegetables to go halfway around the world in any case. Land, in many countries on all continents, is being used to mass-produce grain and soy to feed farmed animals that are extremely inefficient at turning these plants into meat, and some of that land could be used to grow healthful plant foods that are part of the local tradition, directly for people instead. A potential bonus: Because growing plants directly for human consumption would require less land than for animal feed, a portion of the land formerly used to grow animal feed could theoretically be returned to its natural state.
frankly i am sick of all these comments……being a vegetarian for some of us is something we absolutely must do…..if i am unhealthy for it the rest of my life well then i will deal with it knowing i have not killed any animals much less eaten them….it is ridiculous to debate this…..either you slaughter and eat other very intelligent beings on this planet or you don’t and you take some supplements and you know that you are doing right by not murdering….the rest is just non- sense……you have to die of something….however in general i like Kris and what he has to say…..even Mercola tells one to eat animal products……they are just not evolved enough….the end….
i lost respect for this author when he said vegans are b12 deficient. really? then why is it that i know meat eaters that drink milk, eat meat, and dairy and they are b12 deficient???
That’s like saying “I know water-drinkers who are dehydrated often.” The reason why the people you know are b12 deficient is because they simply do not eat enough of it. Also, did you see that the author states that 5%of omnivores are b12 deficient? You should read all of the information and not just what you want to read.
The author doesn’t exclude meat eaters from being b12 deficient.
No one is saying that meat eaters don’t get B12 deficiency. Just a lower percentage of them compared to vegans.
I am a pescetarian. You talk about DHA and EPA but not arachidonic acid. The ratio of DHA + EPA + DPA/ ARA is very bad in meat, poultry, fowl, organ meat and eggyolk is bad. Omega 6/3 ratio is also very bad. It is also true about butter and some fat cheese. avoid this. In milk you get enough B12 D vitamin and omega 3. Iron combined with c vitamin makes it easy to absorb iron and if you add some seafood even better. I don´t eat 150 kg of fish every year but at least 300 to 400 grams a week of fat fish. You also have to Think of gout. Why get it if you don´t need to.
Hi,
I am young, really young still in my early teens, i have recently been shown the light of the cruelty and inhuman ways of factory farming. And i absolutly want to go vegetarian because of ethical reasons, however my parents are not that convinced since they are worried that i won’t get ‘enough nutrition’ (especially about iron, zinc vitamin b12 deficiencies) even though i have shown them your articles and other information from intensive research. How do i convince them that i should go vegetarian? And how can i tell if a product is ethically manufactured?
Thank You!
Hi Erica –
I study nutrition at Rochester Institute of Technology. The program accredited for registered dieticians. You could have your parents contact me if you wish. I am 46 years old, have been on an all plant based diet for 3 years. My mother (65) son (22) and fiance (46) are also all plant based. I also have a background in exercise physiology and used to be a personal trainer. I would love to explain to you or your parents about nutrition and where it comes from more in detail but the short of it is as follows, and this is in every textbook for dieticians:
All vitamins, minerals and nutrients including protein comes from plants. Plants have broadband capabilities to synthesize proteins whereas animals do not. The way for any animal or human to get protein is one of two ways: eat plants or eat an animal that ate plants. The plants make protein from the nutrients in the soil and from the sun. The only vitamin a human can get from the sun directly is vitamin D. Vitamin D does not occur naturally in milk – it is added to it so milk is not the real way to get Vitamin D. The sun or a supplement is. Vitamin B12 comes from soil. It is only in the animals because they eat grass and they don’t wash the grass before eating it. Unfortunately they are not allowed to eat grass anymore and forced to eat diets of grain and candy and any throw away food (they used to be allowed to feed them cement and chicken poop too) and so cows are now given supplements of B12. B 12 is manufactured by microorganisms in the soil and it runs off into water. Since we humans do wash our produce and drink filtered water now it is good to take a B12 supplement. It is not naturally occurring in an animal. The animal gets it from soil and water, the same way we used to before we washed everything. Since all nutrition does come from plants, there is nothing healthier than an all plant based diet. The advantage is that you also get fiber and flavenoids and antioxidants not found in flesh. I would love to tell you more. Just let me know.
Laurie [email protected]
“Take supplements”.
I must disagree. We should eat all natural food. The best source of B12 is organ meat such as beef liver. Vitamins in supplements are often times synthetic compounds that “mimic” real vitamins. This is NOT healthy.
Plant based diet is not healthy. If you care about animal cruelty, then you should accept that, living an unhealthy life is the price you are willing to pay.
The B12 in supplements is actual vitamin B12, produced by bacteria in a lab, instead of in an animal’s intestine.
“Plant based diet is not healthy”
What a pathetically ignorant comment.
How to tell if a product is ethical: As long as it did not come from an animal then that is a start. The most ethical diet is the one you grow yourself. But if you can’t then visiting a local farmer is the next best step. But the first step is not eating any animal or her products.
So the palm oil, sugar cane and other products that are grown on deforested land, causing habitat loss and destruction of endangered species such as rhino and tiger, are OK because they didn’t “come from an animal”? I don’t think so. Growing of plant crops can damage the environment and kill animals just as surely as factory farming. But for the self-righteous, if the destruction is out of sight, it’s out of mind. The phrase “collateral damage” comes to mind.
Why so quick to point fingers? How about instead looking for common ground? Laurie didn’t say that those are okay; in fact she implied the opposite by saying the most ethical thing to do is grow your own food or buy locally. Most vegans I know avoid palm oil and sugar cane for just the reasons you mention.
Palm oil and sugar are in so many products and under so many different names that most people are not even aware of them. And do you really know what “most vegans” do? Have you surveyed them? If you go to Care2 and other Internet groups that have an unusually large percentage of vegan subscribers, and that run frequent articles promoting the vegan lifestyle, you might be surprised. There are many vegans that do not follow your “buy local, whole foods” approach. You will see frequent comment exchanges on various manufactured foods — junk foods in many cases — that contain palm oil and other crops that are not raised sustainably. Many prepared foods are stamped “vegan”, but use ingredients that contribute to global warming, habitat destruction, ocean degradation and other environmental problems. The vegan label says nothing about the environmental impact of a product. I hope that online vegans read the recent article about the greenwashing of so-called sustainable palm oil, and will take more care in selecting products.
Annie pointy finger waffler supreme!
Ah, yes, when you can’t make a logical response, call names! Most of us outgrow that silly schoolyard tactic at about 7 or 8 years old. I really suspect that the defensiveness and rudeness of many vegans has a biochemical basis, likely caused by deficiencies in their diets. It is a characteristic of so many vegans, commenting in so many venues, that there must be some type of common chemical imbalance.
And you don’t think that you are rude!
Massive hypocrite…….
While I make no apologies for calling you on your BS nutritional advice, I don’t have infantile temper tantrums and call silly names. If you think it rude to challenge someone on their pronouncements on a blog of this type — a science-based blog — then perhaps you should stick to venues where everyone thinks like you. If you are going to spout anti-science, unsupportable junk, you have to expect that people are going to call you out. And you did notice, didn’t you, that I am not the only one that has challenged your anti-science posts?
Lying again? I gave no nutritional advice. I stated 60 years of a veggie diet was fine for me.
I suggest you scientifically check the data before more mistakes are made in your castgations.
Wow, Erica, so impressed with your awareness and willingness to begin this most valuable journey. This is the only path to change the world at this point – each person coming to awareness of how their own choices support industry’s cruel practices which are devised purely for profit and brutalize all involved – including the consumer. I see Laurie has reached out to you -kudos to her. You can also check Vegetarian Health Institute which is a brilliant simple source or Dr. Michael Klaper, Ritamarie Loscalzo, or just google any question you think of and the riches of the internet will provide a variety of answers. Laurie’s answers on B12 was brilliant btw and true! And my favorite source of inspiration – YouTube “Luiz Antonio and why he won’t eat his octopus.” 🙂
Erica, you can also tell your parents that the largest land animals got that way on a purely plant diet… If it works for an elephant it should work for you. That’s always a mouth-shutter!
That’s all well and good, apart from the fact the we are not actually elephants, and did not evolve on the same diet, seriously, this is a total lack of science or logic (the first things to go on a strictly Vegan diet)
This strawman argument needs to die already. Actual herbivores can break down components of plants that we cannot. For instance, “insoluble” fiber may be indigestible to us, but a cow could break that down into fatty acids and protein.
it’s articles like these that discourage people on the edge of becoming vegan/vegetarian. could there be on non bias article out there? when I searched “vegan or not vegan” it unanimously came up with, “vegan is bad, you don’t get enough vitamins, you lack nutrition, not any healthier” well neither vegan/vegetarian or omnivore diets are perfect. if you looked at the other reasons people want to switch over you’d get their desicon
All the article explains is an alternate viewpoint to the whole dieting concept, that there isn’t one right diet for everyone. There has been cited sources of research that support Chris’s claims, so it’s not like he is just spewing out his pure opinion. It’s just cautionary to people who are considering going to a vegetarian or vegan diet when it may not be the right for their body or lifestyle.
Mark, check out Vegetarian Health Institute online. I’ve been working my way through 50 very clear, simple lessons that answer everything in a very clear, simple way. Also check the website of Dr. Michael Klaper who has been vegan for 25 years and who provides info to the Vegetarian Health Institute lectures. Also can check Ritamarie Loscalzo. There is simple clear info out there and these are my best recommendations for a start….
One cup of sweet potatoes in one day is nearly impossible? I’m no competition eater but I’m confident I could force that down.
i am so tired of this vegan-vegetarian bashing articles…
Just why can’t we accept the way people eat. I neither of the two. However I have very many friends who are vegetarians for generations and they are in perfect health. Their kids are great looking too.
I see this article being posted everywhere like it usually happens in the health foodie circle – all waif bloggers post the same over and over again. Just tired of it.
Btw, I have no issues with individuals thoughts but remember it is your truth only. Don’t impose it on others. This is for the bloggers and make it the universal truth
Let’s not be food racial.
You do realise of course that the meat and dairy industries actually employ ‘agent provocateurs’ to write articles like this trying to destroy the credibility of veganism?
Many of these types of Internet blogs are written by such people and sadly there are all to many meat and dairy consumers who are only to happy to be told what allows them to continue being selfish without having to feel guilty (assuming some of them otherwise would!) because now they can continue their selfish habits and believe they’re doing the right thing at the same time.
That’s a real example of ‘shoehorning a diet into a lifestyle’.
He/she does explain to us that he/she has respect for people’s food choices while also stating facts… Being vagitarian or vegan is in fact unhealth by replacing meat with unhealthy CHEMICALLY MADE PROTIN POWDER…
Of course he/she does. He/she would look a bit obvious if he/she didn’t. The whole point is to make it plausible otherwise no one will believe it.
If we are going to discuss what is healthy or not with respect to food choices then we can only do so seriously if we consider EVERYONE INVOLVED in a particular dietary choice.
As an analogy we wouldn’t discuss the issue of rape by discussing whether or not it was beneficial for (only) the rapist.
An extreme example?… perhaps, but the PRINCIPLE is identical because eating meat involves not just the consumer but also the consumed. So, if we stop thinking selfishly for just a moment. It is actually far less healthy overall.
A non-meat product may or may not adversely affect me in some way (and for every bit of science that says it will there’s a bit that says it won’t) but the risks appear small and negligible given that so many people have been eating them healthily for so many years now.
We can argue either way on that.
However, what isn’t in doubt is this…
a vegan diet MAY or MAY NOT involve some risk to me (just like crossing the road really) but it completely avoids the death of an innocent party which, if that were you, you would insist was important.
So..
Vegan diet: debatable risk to the consumer (although I personally I doubt it)
Meat diet: debatable risk to the consumer and guaranteed death to the consumed.
Now which should we consider to be “least healthy”?
It just comes down to each of us thinking outside our own little box and considering the bigger picture. Doing that is something (one of the few things left) which actually defines us as different from other species.
In fact it reminds me of a quote from the animal rights activist and author Isaac Beshavis Singer who, when at a dinner party was asked by a woman. …
“Are you abstaining from eating chicken for health reasons Mr Singer?”
He replied…
“Yes madam! For the health of the chicken! “
Sure is difficult to digest all of the information and make an informed decision. My wife and I have been vegan for 2 months (ok, we cheat a little bit with fish) – we try to take supplements that we feel are necessary. For every great article that supports Vegan or Vegetarian, there is another article that chastises the diet. I only wish I had enough knowledge to decipher who to believe. Education and research is the key but I sure seem to run into a lot of contradictory information on how vitamins and minerals are or are not absorbed and what is and what is not healthy..
Hi
I always mention when people ask me about my vegetarian diet, that they need to educate themselves just like you would think people would do when they are on a meat based diet.
I have been a vegetarian for over 30 years and I am now in my 60’s I love it and I find it has made me more aware of nutrition and the essential minerals vitamins etc the body needs.
And “animals are my friends and I don’t eat my friends”. (George Bernard Shaw) All the best, it is good to educate people so that they can be responsible for their own decisions.
What do you eat and do you supplement, if so what do you supplement, and what about collagen Arthritis etc…, I attempted vega diet and bout killed me, lost 40 lbs, and becameso weak could not hardly walk, I packed away more and more calories did no good, No Hard shugars either, I even supplemented last month’s before Doctor took me off the diet, was at 207, down from a atheletic 270, I am now back to meat’s egg’s, as I wish, still supplementing at up to healthy 240 with muscles packing back on thank you
The most critical supplement would be Vitamin B12, assuming the diet is made up of mostly unprocessed vegetables, legumes, nuts, seeds, whole grains, and fruit. Although you can get some Omega 3s from nuts, seeds, and greens, it might also be wise to use a vegan, algae-derived DHA/EPA supplement. You would get the benefits of fish oil without the negatives. (Fish get their DHA/EPA from algae.) Vitamin D is often recommended for people who don’t get enough sunshine due to lifestyle or geographical location. Maybe when you went vegan, you were consuming more of something that you unknowingly have a problem with? Wheat or soy, maybe? Neither of those is necessary on a vegan diet. Regarding arthritis, many people with arthritis find relief when they go on a whole foods vegan diet, because of the inflammatory nature of dairy and some meats. Best wishes to you.
I see a lot of the critics in the comments believe that if you don’t feel well eating a vegetarian or vegan diet, you’re doing it wrong. It took me many years to realize that this way of thinking is just the beginning of the slippery slope to orthorexia — and yet it’s probably the most commonly argued veg(etari)an propaganda you’ll hear. Please quit telling people that they’re doing your lifestyle wrong — *your* lifestyle isn’t necessarily right for everyone, and it’s damaging to other people to try and convince them otherwise.
I understand what you’re saying, but I”m not sure which comments you’re directing it toward. For example, I think suggesting that a vegan (or any) diet is healthier if it minimizes processed foods and includes healthy fats is just plain good advice.
I strongly disagree that healthy omnivores eat “liberal amounts” of EPA and DHA containing fish. I think healthy omnivores tend to eat plenty of vegetables and small amounts of healthy animal protein, usually fish. I also think the thing that really helps them is the lack of processed food. As a vegetarian, who is not particularly healthy due to eating more than the recommended amount of convenience food!, I have made some changes in my diet to improve nutrient intake. I traded bread for nuts, soda for fruit juice spritzers and sugary cereals for plain, instant oatmeal. This, in addition to substituting beans and soy for meat and fish, should take care of any of those deficiencies you mention above. Though it is true that plant foods often have less absorbable nutrients, I believe most heavy meat eaters consume more of these nutrients than they need, considering the calories and cholesterol accompanying them. I also think many people eat too many empty calories, lots of fast food and soda and a healthy dose of vegetables wouldn’t hurt them any. A vegetarian diet encourages vegetable consumption.
I would have to agree. When I still ate meat, I NEVER ate any type of seafood, and neither does my family. We live on the plains and fish just isn’t something that is consumed often here. There are plenty of people not eating seafood, in which it is claimed the only place that you can get these nutrients, yet omnivores who don’t eat seafood don’t have this issue…hmmm.
Layla, you talk about a Chinese medical doctor who is from a culture which has a long history of knowing the medicinal properties of food. Are we talking about the culture that is chopping and boiling every wild animal on the planet into extinction in order to make it’s sex potions? Not to mention boiling whatever cats and dogs they can get their hands on alive just for the regular medicinal lunch?
I am looking forward to long term prospective studies on diet. There are plenty of long term epidemiological observational type studies of indigenous diets diets all over the world where people had low rates of the now common “western diseases.” I don’t know of any purely vegetarian societies though. Usually at least some milk and eggs. It doesn’t take a lot of at least some animal based foods. Not the slabs of steaks most people talk about. But my observation after being a vegetarian for 15 years and observing people with chronic pain is that a vegetarian diet certainly doesn’t work for everyone. May be some folks but not everyone. So the take home message should be that the is huge variability in what will work for people. Maybe in the winter, more animal based foods and less or none in the summer varying the diet throughout the year. That is probably the most beneficial diet for our gut bacteria as well. But, like I said, I am waiting for long term prospective studies to get the real answers. I wish I could be a vegan for moral reasons–I don’t like the idea of killing animals but it certainly didn’t work for me after a while.
“…but there was no survival difference between vegetarians or omnivores.”
Could a take-away be that the best thing we can do is to avoid those things that health-food shoppers? I don’t mean to be too much of a naysayer, but from a devil’s advocate perspective, it seems to me that the study you’re referencing causes damage to the bio-availability argument (etc) that you put forward in the article?