This is an update of an article I published in 2011. I affirm that animal products are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat and that vegetarians and vegans are at risk for multiple nutrient deficiencies. I have included up-to-date research and expanded the list of nutrients that are often lacking in vegetarian and vegan diets.
Maybe you have considered going vegetarian or vegan for the health benefits. Or maybe you know someone who feels strongly about it as an ethical choice, and you wonder if they can really follow the diet in a healthy way. I respect these reasons and appreciate anyone who thinks deeply about the social and spiritual impact of their food choices—even if my own exploration of these questions has led me to a different answer.
But many choose a vegetarian diet because they’re under the impression that it’s a healthier choice from a nutritional perspective. It is this last reason that I’d like to address in this article. For the last 50-plus years, we’ve been told that meat, eggs, and animal fats are bad for us and that we’ll live longer and enjoy superior health if we minimize or avoid them. This idea has been so thoroughly drilled into our heads that few people even question it anymore. In fact, if you asked the average person on the street whether a vegetarian or vegan diet is healthier than an omnivorous diet, they’d probably say yes. But is this really true?
If You Want Nutrient-Dense Foods, You Need to Eat Animal Products
Plant-based diets emphasize vegetables, which are quite nutrient dense, and fruits, which are somewhat nutrient dense. They also typically include large amounts of cereal grains (refined and unrefined) and legumes, both of which are low in bioavailable nutrients and high in anti-nutrients like phytate. Most importantly, vegetarian and vegan diets eschew organ meats, other meats, and fish and shellfish, which are among the most nutrient-dense foods you can eat. (1)
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Vegan diets, in particular, are almost completely devoid of certain nutrients that are crucial for physiological function. Deficiencies can take months or years to develop, and many are easily missed because they are not routinely tested for in primary care settings. Several studies have shown that both vegetarians and vegans are prone to deficiencies in:
- Vitamin B12
- Calcium
- Iron
- Zinc
- Long-chain fatty acids EPA and DHA
- Fat-soluble vitamins like A and D
Let’s take a closer look at each of these nutrients.
Vegetarian and Vegan Diets Don’t Provide Enough Vitamin B12
B12 deficiency is especially common in vegetarians and vegans. To properly evaluate B12 status, total serum vitamin B12 isn’t enough. A better marker for vitamin B12 is holotranscobalamin II, the biologically active fragment, which should be measured along with total homocysteine and methylmalonic acid. Low B12 is correlated with low holotranscobalamin II, while homocysteine and methylmalonic acid are usually increased in later stages of vitamin B12 deficiency. (2) The most recent studies using more sensitive techniques for detecting B12 deficiency have found that up to 77 percent of vegetarians and 92 percent of vegans are B12 deficient, compared to just 11 percent of omnivores. (3, 4, 5)
Vitamin B12 works together with folate in the synthesis of DNA and red blood cells. It’s also involved in the production of the myelin sheath around the nerves and the conduction of nerve impulses. B12 deficiency can cause numerous symptoms, including:
- Fatigue
- Lethargy
- Weakness
- Memory loss
- Neurological and psychiatric problems
- Anemia
- And much more …
It’s a common myth among vegetarians and vegans that it’s possible to get B12 from plant sources like:
- Seaweed
- Fermented soy
- Spirulina
- Brewer’s yeast
These plant foods don’t contain B12. They contain B12 analogs, called cobamides, that block the intake of—and increase the need for—true B12. (6) Researchers have identified purple laver nori (seaweed) as a plant source of bioavailable B12; however, it could contain high levels of cadmium and arsenic. (7, 8, 9, 10) More studies are needed, but there is a potentially serious problem with relying on purple laver nori for adequate B12.
If You’re Vegan, You Might Be Missing out on Calcium
You know that calcium is important for bone health, but did you know it’s essential for muscle and nerve function and that it’s involved in blood clotting? On paper, calcium intake is similar in vegetarians and omnivores (probably because both eat dairy products). Vegans, however, are often deficient. (11, 12, 13)
Calcium bioavailability from plant foods is affected by their levels of oxalate and phytate, which are inhibitors of calcium absorption and thus decrease the amount of calcium the body can extract from plant foods. (10) So while leafy greens like spinach and kale have a relatively high calcium content, the calcium is not efficiently absorbed during digestion.
One study suggests that it would take 16 servings of spinach to get the same amount of absorbable calcium as an eight-ounce glass of milk. (14) That would be 33 cups of baby spinach or around five or six cups of cooked spinach. There are a few vegetables listed in this paper that have higher levels of bioavailable calcium, but it’s important to note that all of the vegetables tested required multiple servings to achieve the same amount of usable calcium as one single serving of milk, cheese, or yogurt.
This suggests that trying to meet your daily calcium needs from plant foods alone might not be a great strategy. For those who don’t tolerate dairy well, fish with edible bones like sardines are great sources of calcium on a Paleo diet.
You’re Also More Likely to Be Iron-Deficient on a Plant-Based Diet
Vegetarians and omnivores often have similar levels of serum iron, but levels of ferritin—the long-term storage form of iron—are lower in vegetarians than in omnivores. (15, 16) This is significant, because ferritin depletion is the first stage of iron deficiency.
For example, this study of 75 vegan women in Germany found that 40 percent of them were iron deficient, despite average iron intakes that were above the recommended daily allowance. (17) Among Australian men, iron intake among vegetarians and vegans was 29 to 49 percent higher than omnivores, but their serum ferritin concentrations were barely half that of omnivores. (18) Despite similar iron intakes, another study published this year showed vegans and female vegetarians having low ferritin levels. (19)
Why would this be? As with calcium, the bioavailability of the iron in plant foods (nonheme iron) is much lower than in animal foods (heme iron). Plant-based forms of iron are also inhibited by other commonly consumed substances, such as:
- Coffee
- Tea
- Dairy products
- Supplemental fiber
- Supplemental calcium
This explains why vegetarian diets have been shown to reduce nonheme iron absorption by 70 percent and total iron absorption by 85 percent. (20, 21)
Red Meat, Fish, and Poultry Are Your Best Sources for Zinc
Zinc is important for the immune system, cell growth, and wound healing. You won’t usually see overt zinc deficiency in Western vegetarians, but their intake often falls below recommendations, probably because red meat, poultry, and fish are the best sources.
This is another case where bioavailability is important; many plant foods that contain zinc also contain phytate, which inhibits zinc absorption. Vegetarian diets tend to reduce zinc absorption by about 35 percent compared with an omnivorous diet. (22) Thus, even when the diet meets or exceeds the RDA for zinc, deficiency may still occur. (23) One study suggested that vegetarians may require up to 50 percent more zinc than omnivores for this reason. (24) A meta-analysis of 34 studies found that both zinc intakes and serum zinc concentrations were lower in vegetarians than non-vegetarians. (25)
You Might Be Missing out on the Benefits of Essential Fatty Acids
Plant foods do contain linoleic acid (omega-6) and alpha-linolenic acid (ALA, omega-3), both of which are considered essential fatty acids. In this context, an essential fatty acid is one that can’t be synthesized by the body and must be obtained in the diet. However, an increasing body of research has highlighted the benefits of the long-chain omega-3 fatty acids EPA and DHA. These fatty acids play a protective and therapeutic role in a wide range of diseases: (26, 27)
- Cancer
- Asthma
- Depression
- Alzheimer’s disease
- Cardiovascular disease
- ADHD
- Autoimmune diseases like rheumatoid arthritis
While it is possible for some ALA from plant foods to be converted into EPA and DHA, that conversion is poor in humans: between 5 and 10 percent for EPA and 2 and 5 percent for DHA. (28)
Although no official recommendation exists, the daily suggested intake of combined DHA and EPA is around 250 to 500 mg. In theory, this means vegans and vegetarians would need to consume between five and 12.5 grams of ALA per day to obtain 250 mg of DHA. In reality, vegetarians and vegans consume merely 0.97 g/day and 0.86 g/day of ALA, respectively, according to a study of over 14,000 Americans. (29)
Vegetarians have 30 percent lower levels of EPA and DHA than omnivores, while vegans have 50 percent lower EPA and nearly 60 percent lower DHA. (30, 31) Moreover, the conversion of ALA to DHA depends on zinc, iron, selenium, and pyridoxine—nutrients that vegetarians and vegans are less likely than omnivores to get enough of. (32, 33, 34, 35) Eating 12 to 16 ounces of cold-water fatty fish per week remains the best way to get adequate EPA and DHA. The fish will also provide bioavailable protein and selenium.
Vitamins A and D: What You’re Missing
Fat-soluble vitamins play numerous and critical roles in human health. Vitamin A promotes healthy immune function, fertility, eyesight, and skin. Vitamin D regulates calcium metabolism, regulates immune function, reduces inflammation, and protects against some forms of cancer.
These important fat-soluble vitamins are concentrated, and in some cases found almost exclusively, in animal foods like:
- Seafood
- Organ meats
- Eggs
- Dairy products
Some obscure species of mushrooms can provide large amounts of vitamin D, but these mushrooms are rarely consumed and often difficult to obtain. This explains why vitamin D levels are often low in vegetarians and even lower in vegans. (36, 37, 38, 39)
The idea that plant foods contain vitamin A is a common misconception. Plants contain beta-carotene, the precursor to active vitamin A (retinol). While beta-carotene is converted into vitamin A in humans, the conversion is inefficient. (40, 41) For example, a single serving of liver per week would meet the RDA of 3,000 IU. To get the same amount from plant foods, you’d have to eat two cups of carrots, one cup of sweet potatoes, or two cups of kale every day.
Moreover, traditional cultures consumed up to 10 times the current RDA for vitamin A. It would be nearly impossible to get this amount of vitamin A from plant foods without juicing or taking supplements. And if supplements aren’t consumed with a fatty meal, the actual absorption will be low. (42)
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Vegans and Vegetarians, You Could Be Missing These Key Nutrients
If you don’t eat meat or other animal products, you could also be missing out on:
- Choline
- Creatine
- Taurine
- Methionine
- Glycine
- Selenium
Choline
Vegetarian and vegan diets, along with the Standard American Diet, pose risks of choline deficiency. (43) Choline is required for:
- Healthy cell membrane function
- Methylation
- Cognitive development in children
It’s so important that the FDA recently set a daily recommended intake of 550 mg for men and 425 mg for women, which should increase to 450 mg during pregnancy and 550 mg during breastfeeding. Recent research suggests that only 8.5 percent of women meet the daily choline requirement. (44) With egg yolks and organ meats as the most potent sources of choline, it’s not surprising that even omnivores are not getting enough. This is another reason I encourage giving organ meat dishes another try.
Creatine
Creatine plasma and muscle levels are usually lower in vegetarians than in omnivores, as meat provides the richest source of creatine. (45) Creatine may play an important role in cognitive function. A randomized controlled trial found that six weeks of oral creatine supplementation significantly improved vegetarians’ performance on tests of fluid intelligence and working memory. The difference in scores between groups was enormous. (46)
Another study found that creatine supplementation in vegetarians improved memory, while having no effect on fluid intelligence or working memory in meat-eaters. (47) These results suggest that vegetarians’ baseline scores may have been impaired due to low creatine intake.
Taurine
Taurine has a central role as a neurotransmitter, promotes the development of the central nervous system, and upholds the structure of cell membranes. Although the body can synthesize small amounts of taurine, vegetarians and vegans often still have low plasma and urinary taurine levels because taurine is found primarily in animal products. (48, 49) Low plasma taurine in newborns is associated with lower scores on mental development and arithmetic tests at age seven, suggesting that dietary taurine aids in neural development. (50)
Methionine
Methionine is another amino acid that is restricted on a plant-based diet. Low methionine intake has been linked to longevity in scientific research. However, methionine is still an essential amino acid, and too little methionine may impair detoxification and reduce fertility. (51, 52) After being activated using ATP, methionine becomes the universal methyl donor.
On the flip side, too much methionine can also pose problems. After methyl donation, methionine becomes homocysteine and must be recycled back to methionine by B12, folate, or betaine (derived from choline). Because meat is high in methionine, diets heavy in muscle meats but low in connective tissues can result in increased homocysteine levels, a risk factor for CVD.
That said, studies have shown that vegetarians and vegans have significantly higher homocysteine levels on average than omnivores. (53) In one study, the average homocysteine level among vegetarians was 13.9 nmol/L and among vegans, 16.4 nmol/L, compared to 11.3 nmol/L for omnivores. (54) This puts most vegetarians and vegans in a range that carries significant risk of CVD. In fact, according to one study, the prevalence of hyperhomocysteinemia among vegetarians may actually be higher than that among non-vegetarians already diagnosed with heart disease. (55)
Glycine
Vegetarians and vegans don’t consume as much glycine as meat-eaters, as the richest sources are the “odd bits” of animal foods, like: (56)
- Skin
- Bones
- Collagen
- Gelatin
Glycine is one of the building blocks of collagen, found in our connective tissues. In addition to its structural role, glycine can also act as a neurotransmitter, plays a role in blood sugar regulation, and stimulates the production of glutathione, the body’s master antioxidant. (57, 58, 59, 60)
Some Paleo dieters can be susceptible to low glycine intake, too, if they are eating tons of muscle meat and ignoring the “nose-to-tail” philosophy. Glycine helps balance out methionine levels, in part by acting as a buffer for excess methyl groups. Low choline and glycine intake, common in vegetarians and vegans, can further contribute to high homocysteine levels and increased risk of CVD. Eating bone broth regularly can help balance glycine/methionine levels.
Selenium
While a few studies show no difference in selenium status among diet types, most research shows lower intake and/or levels in vegetarians and vegans compared to omnivores, including one study that measured glutathione peroxidase, a selenium-dependent enzyme and an excellent marker of active selenium status. (61, 62, 63, 64) Selenium has a role in immune function, supports thyroid hormone synthesis, and protects the thyroid from excess iodine damage. (65, 66) Selenium also helps prevent mercury toxicity. (67)
Selenium deficiency is also common in those with digestive health issues like Crohn’s disease or celiac disease. (68, 69) The best sources of selenium include:
- Brazil nuts
- Crimini mushrooms
- Some sea foods
- Chicken
- Eggs
- Lamb
- Turkey
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Eating Animal Products Could Also Help Your Thyroid Health
Thyroid hormone synthesis requires iodine, a nutrient that can be lacking from omnivore and plant-based diets alike. Most iodine comes from the sea; the soil—and therefore vegetables grown in soil—usually contains very little. In a typical mixed diet, the highest sources of iodine are iodized salt and animal products like:
- Dairy products
- Eggs
- Seafood
Vegetarians and vegans are at risk for low iodine intake. (70)
In the Boston area, urinary iodine levels in vegans were barely half that of vegetarians, and vegans were at high risk of iodine deficiency. (71) Several studies of Scandinavian populations confirm that vegans finished last in iodine intake and/or urinary iodine levels. (72, 73, 74) To make matters worse, isoflavones found in soy products, which are sometimes consumed in large quantities in vegan and vegetarian diets, may exacerbate iodine deficiency and hypothyroidism. (75)
But even those following a Paleo template can be at risk for iodine deficiency if they are not regularly consuming seafood. (76) Sea vegetables, especially kelp, are the highest sources of iodine ounce for ounce.
Your Kids Need Nutrient-Dense Foods to Thrive
Because of the prevailing idea in our culture that vegetarian and vegan diets are healthy, more and more children are being raised from birth (and even from conception!) on meat-free diets. Both the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics (AND) and USDA have said that vegetarian and vegan diets are safe during pregnancy, but critical analyses by several researchers have questioned whether these recommendations are based on sufficient evidence. One review remarked that “the evidence on vegan–vegetarian diets in pregnancy is heterogeneous and scant,” suggesting that more research is needed to answer the question of whether they are, in fact, safe during pregnancy. (77)
Vegetarian and vegan diets for children carry significant risks of nutrient deficiencies that can have dire health consequences. (78, 79, 80)
Studies have shown that kids raised until age six on a vegan diet are still B12 deficient years after adding at least some animal products to their diet. One study found an association between B12 status and measures of intelligence and memory, with formerly vegan kids scoring lower than omnivorous kids. (81) Devastating case studies have reported B12 deficiency in young vegan children that have led to neurological damage and developmental delays. (82, 83)
Low nutrient intake extends beyond vitamin B12. Other case studies have attributed hypothyroidism in young children to a maternal and/or childhood vegan diet. (84, 85) Compared to omnivores, breast milk from vegan mothers had lower levels of DHA and EPA, which are vital for brain development, especially in the first year of life, when a baby’s brain literally doubles in size. (83) In short, just like adults, children on vegetarian and vegan diets often have lower intakes of iron, iodine, vitamin A, zinc, and more.
Your Best Choice for Optimal Nutrition Isn’t a Vegetarian or Vegan Diet, but a Paleo Template
With care and attention, I think it’s possible to meet most of your nutrient needs with a vegetarian diet that includes liberal amounts of pasture-raised, full-fat dairy and eggs, with one exception: EPA and DHA. These long-chain omega fats are found exclusively in marine algae and fish and shellfish, so the only way to get them on a vegetarian diet would be to take a microalgae supplement or bend the rules and take fish oil or cod liver oil as a supplement. (86) Still, while it may be possible to obtain adequate nutrition on a vegetarian diet, it is not optimal—as the research above indicates.
I don’t think it’s possible to meet nutrient needs on a vegan diet without supplements—and quite a few of them. Vegan diets are low in:
- B12
- Bioavailable iron and zinc
- Choline
- Vitamins A and D
- Calcium
- EPA and DHA
It’s worth pointing out that there are genetic differences that affect the conversion of certain nutrient precursors (like beta-carotene and alpha-linolenic acid) into the active forms of those nutrients (like retinol and EPA and DHA, respectively), and these differences may affect how long someone will be able to follow a vegetarian or vegan diet before they develop nutrient deficiencies. This explains why some people seem to do well for years on these diets, while others develop problems very quickly.
Is It Time to Rethink Your Diet?
From an evolutionary perspective, is difficult to justify a diet with low levels of several nutrients critical to human function. While it may be possible to address these shortcomings through targeted supplementation (an issue that is still debated), it makes far more sense to meet your nutritional needs from food.
This is especially important for children, who are still developing and are even more sensitive to suboptimal intake of the nutrients discussed in this article. Like all parents, vegetarians and vegans want the best for their children. Unfortunately, many are not aware of the potential for nutrient deficiencies posed by their dietary choices.
I hope this article can serve as a resource for anyone on a plant-based diet, whether they choose to start eating meat (or animal products, in the case of vegans) again or not.
this is the most biased muck i have ever read. There is so much crap on the internet and if you dont know that you do not obtain any calcium from dairy you really should not be giving health advice. Although there is calcium in dairy yes, but it is high in phosphates like all animal products causing acidity and because of this acid the body has to reduce this acid by taking calcium out of our bones and dumping it into the blood then after the calcium has done its job of putting out the acid fire it is dispersed throughout all the soft tissue of the body causing all sorts of calcification problems such as calcified arteries, kidney stones etc. look at the relationship between osteoperosis and consumption of dairy in the scandinavian countries where they consume absolutely loads of dairy and they have the highest rates of osteoperosis.
Key word here: ‘relationship’. That does not prove cause and effect.
I totally agree with you.
Janice, Your comment is absolutely wrong and misleading. The calcium form dairy products is well absorbed. The problem in the Northern courtiers is the lack of vitamin D due to the reduced sunshine. Also I see that you are an extremist. You take only the extremes into consideration. You compare vegan diet with only meat diet. If you eat 6 oz of meat per day and combined it with enough vegetables you will never get reduced blood pH. I am always curious how people without any clue of science can write “scientific comments”. In a large study recently have been demonstrated that vegetarians and vegans have a lot weaker immune system and are predisposed to anemia. The results were in comparison not with meat eaters but normal omnivores diet. Humans are created omnivores and it doesn’t mean that we can eat either meat or plants. It means that we must eat both in order to survive.
That acid/alkaline diet theory is not based on sound science. It is erroneous. You better hope some of your body’s systems have an acid pH or they will not function properly. Other systems function at an alkaline pH. You can actually do very little to change the pH of various parts of your body by diet. The body knows what pH regime it needs and works to maintain the optimum range for that particular function.
The acid-alkaline theory of nutrition (and I hesitate to call it a theory, as that gives it a scientific veneer it does not merit) is nonscientific bunk. It has been shown to be such by several writers, including the very Chris Kresser whose blog this is. Several foods that vegans claimed were “acidifying” actually produce an alkaline residue when analyzed in the lab, rather than in someone’s fevered new-age pipe dreams. Not that this matters a whit for your overall health. See http://skepdic.com/alkalinediet.html, https://www.metabunk.org/debunked-alkaline-diets-cure-cancer.t5401/, http://www.webmd.com/diet/a-z/alkaline-diets, and http://www.naturalnews.com/041623_alkaline_diet_pH_level_myths.html, to cite only a few. Any benefits from the so-called alkaline diet result from its emphasis on getting people to consume more fresh vegetables and fruit, not from any blood-pH balancing.
Your body pulls calcium from your bones when protein is consumed no matter what source the protein comes from; animal or otherwise.
I think that’s a good article although I have been doing a lot of research on vegetarian diets and have found out that a person can get all nutritional needs without supplements. It just takes a lot of balancing of diet and a lot of eating foods that absorb those nutrients. Many people fail to do that because of what ever reason. I just thought I would let you know.
I’m sorry but on a vegetarian diet, or worse vegan, you will be lacking active vitamin A, vitamin D, vitamin K2 (if yoB12u dont ferment your veg), calcium, iron (heme), CLA (only found in ruminants fed on pasture), enough cholesterol (to fulfil vital functions), long chain DHA, biotin, B12, choline, this list is endless….
Nonsense. The only nutrient necessary for vegans to supplement is B12, though many choose to take more, just as many meat eaters do. Active vitamin A is unnecessary and can be problematic in excess, as can heme (animal-based) iron. The body forms all the vitamin A it needs from the beta carotene in vegetables. The safer non-heme iron is plentiful in dark leafy greens, legumes, whole grains such as buckwheat, nuts, and seeds. To ensure absorption, consume it with a food high in vitamin C. There’s plenty of calcium in plant foods, especially dark leafy greens, beans, seeds, and plant-based milks. Algae-derived (vegan) long-chain DHA and EPA supplements are widely available. (Algae is where fish get their omega-3s.) And with a diet lower than typical in omega-6 (in other words, a whole-foods, plant-based diet), conversion of short-chain omega-3s in foods like walnuts and flax seed to long-chain becomes efficient. Many common plant foods, including tofu, quinoa and broccoli, are good sources of choline. CLA is found in abundance in a variety of mushrooms. With the addition of a simple B12 supplement, a well-rounded plant-based diet provides all the nutrients needed for excellent health without the risks inherent in a diet high in animal products.
Actually, not everyone can convert beta-carotene to vitamin A. As a naturopath, I see many people that are deficient in vitamin A.
BETA CAROTENE IS NOT VITAMIN A
Great article Chris! I’d add that although it’s possible to get all of our essential amino acids from vegetables most vegans and vegetarians are still deprived of protein. When I went on a high vegetable low-protein kick for a week, I noticed that my nails were brittle and my hair was starting to shed. I think the best solution is to eat locally raised, high nutritious meat and a substantial amount of produce into your diet as well.
Great article Chris! I’d like to add that although its possible to get all your essential amino acids from vegetables, most vegans and vegetarians are still deprived of protein. I think the best solution is to eat locally raised high quality meat and include a substantial amount of fresh produce into your diet.
Plants have protein. I’m vegan and eat more than enough protein on a daily basis. Meat isn’t necessary.
I tend to be skeptical when people point to just one study that happens to support their point of view while ignoring the many others that may not (and no, they are not all plagued by healthy user bias – there are many ways to control for that possibility).
Also the link you gave for the study does not confirm the results you wrote about. I just looked at it and it does not mention anything about comparing vegetarians with omnivores.
However, if it really is the case that health conscious omnivores and health conscious vegetarians live equally long, then it seems that the vegetarian diet has no disadvantage. Yes they may need to take supplements, but so do many omnivores. Really there is no health reason in a modern society to kill animals for food.
Hello….it is written in scriptures that many people before Christ had and did kill all kinds of beasts for food and clothing and the Lord said Every beast of the land every fowl of the air are meat for men.the lord also says eat meat sparingly. …so it is meant for us to eat meat.but we are giving agency to chose for ourselves what we do as by choice and free will.
I highly recommend a book written from the Christian perspective called Dominion: The Power of Man, the Suffering of Animals, and the Call to Mercy by Matthew Scully. Scully and many other Christians have come to believe that Christians should reconsider supporting the horrors of corporate animal agriculture as well as the damage done to Creation by this industry.
http://www.amazon.com/Dominion-Power-Suffering-Animals-Mercy/dp/0312319738
Hi Chris. Respectfully, vegans get all of the nutrients that they need without needing to consume meat. I encourage you to check out this article, it debunks a lot of myths about vegan myths and it is actually quite interesting. http://www.freshnlean.com/20-vegan-myths-dispelled/
I was a vegetarian for two years . I was always hungry and had low levels of energy. I made sure that my diet was balanced as I was aware of the risks, so please don’t tell me that I did not do it right. I also exercised regularly.
After doing lots of research and thinking, I decided to go back to eating meat. I introduced all natural chicken slowly, then lean organic beef. My body never felt happier. I lost 15lb (I weight 120 now), never hungry, and full of energy. No diets, just listening to what my body is telling me (and that is eat meat in moderation, lots of veggies, nuts and fruits). It’s been 5 years since I got back to the natural human diet the way God intended us to eat. Never been happier in my life.
I think all the people who claim how being vegan/vegetarian is the best thing that ever happened to them are just experiencing powerful placebo effect since , as the author mentioned, the myths of devastating meat diet vs happy and healthy vegetarian are still extremely prevalent in our society.
This article is so poorly informed. I just had my blood tested and I have perfect levels of B-12, iron, calcium, I had a full panel done. I’ve been vegetarian for 7 years and vegan for 2. I was actually anemic when I ate meat and dairy. It’s a little embarrassing that the author didn’t examine any actual evidence and assumed our diets are lacking, despite the vast amount of healthy, happy vegans in the world. We have a ‘health bias’ because veganism follows general health. People who do nutritional research learn that it’s better to suit our natural bodies, which, from our intestines to our stomach acids, are suited to plant-based diets.
I agree with you 100%. I’ve been vegetarian, mostly vegan, for 8 years and my blood work is phenomenal. I was anemic and had high cholesterol when I used to consume meat and dairy products. Sounds like this author was paid by the meat corporations lol. The food pyramid is bias as well since the people on the panel who decide what foods to eat are sponsored and paid by the dairy industry.
I agree!!! Vegetarian and complete blood counts always perfect!!! I don’t take any supplements. So I have had no issues being vegetarian…I love it!!!
Considering that his specialty is alternative medicine and healthy living, he doesn’t receive any more from the meat industry than a chiropractor receives from pharmaceutical companies.
You weren’t anemic, you had low levels of zinc relative to copper
I am 71 years old. I became a vegetarian and mostly vegan forty years ago. I take no medications and I run five miles every day (slowly). Until recently, I never took B 12 or Omega 3. Why am I not dead? (after listening to talks by Dr. Gergen and Dr. Stanger on the net I do take B 12, to be on the safe side). I know this is anecdotal evidence, but, I wonder exactly what foods those folks who are deficient are eating? I have bean, rice and tofu almost every dinner, and I make a shake of whatever veggies and fruit I have around, because I can’t stand to eat them if they are not ground up and banana flavored. Also, meat does not have B12 in it, rather the B12 is on it. Also, I take no Omega 3 supplement like flax. My point is that there seems to be a lot that is unknown.
awesome,,,thats amazing,,i am 53,,stopped eating meat six weeks ago,and became vegan a week ago,,i feel amazing already,,but i just know the advantages to not eating meat,,,hope to live along healthy life,,med free,,,
Why are you not dead? Well much like you and maybe 30-40% of people you probably can recycle b12 very efficiently. Unfortunately alot of people have this gene mutation which means their b12 depletes over time, some people faster then others which means a vegan diet isn’t really a fit for them unless they supplement every day.
I’ve cut out dead animals and all dairy and eggs and I’ve never felt so good. It’s forced me to eat healthy and eat twice as many veggies and fruits as I use to. I’ve lost 20+kg since changing my lifestyle and feel amazing. I’ve also been seen a specialized nutritionist. There is no need to kill animals and eat their rotting flesh, and eat chickens periods (eggs) and drink cows milk (made only for their calves that are killed because they are a by product of the dairy indistry and a cow must always be pregnant to produce milk)
awesome,,me too,,,,i don,t understand why its so hard to figure out,,meat and meat products clog our artieries and cause heart disease,,,vegetables and plants, do not,,and how can we justify all this cruelty,,,,milking cows,,chickens laying eggs,, i have seen the videos,,i am disgusted,so glad to be vegan,,,and saving animals,,,,,
Jenica Xeno – Impressive and inspirational. Thank you.
John J – typical and non-impressive. Cows got B12 from the soil that stuck to the grass they ate. They no longer eat grass. Next. Meat is old school. Pretty soon it will just be replaced with more economic models for the masses. Why? Because follow the new big money.
It’s always the same…..vegans speaking for the whole and meat eaters speaking for their stomachs and ego. Vegans can hear meat eaters but meat eaters are incapable of hearing anything more holistic than “me”.
That is so not true. I have recently met a vegan lady of 20 years who has, with her knowledge, managed to (willingly) convert me to veganism. I was an avid primal eater before this, feeling great. I have now been vegan for 3 months (no, not long), but feel like utter crap. I tell my new friend how I am feeling. I can now feel aching joints, I have sore feet, I am in bed by 8 o clock because I am exhausted, my libido had vanished, amongst other things. She will not have it even though she is always ‘not well’, tired, headachy, has sinus issues, a husband (who is also vegan) with kidney stones, a tantrum throwing child (also vegan) who is always in fairy land. She does not ‘hear’ what I have to say about how I am now feeling. No, she doesn’t just think herself either, she is all for the animals. Now I am in a place of not knowing what to d. I can’t go back to eating meat because of what she has taught me and what I have seen and now know, but I can’t continue feeling like shit either. So me, as a meat eater, did ‘hear’ my non-meating friend and was easily converted to veganism, but her, on the other hand will not listen to why I think small amounts of organic, pasture raised meat may be good for human health.
Not true,
I am vegan. I happily work 14 hr shifts. Sleep 6-8 hrs a day… I do not consume coffeine and plenty of juice and fruit every day! Been doing this for 5 years now without any problems.. In fact I feel happier AND healthier than my meat eating neighbors who are constantly going to doctors for check ups or gain and lose weight uncontrollably
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Thank you. Sound reasoning. The bible says nothing about it being better for people to be vegans. In a vision, God presented Peter with “All manner of four footed beasts of the earth(possibly cows), and wild beasts(possibly pigs) and creeping things and fouls of the air. This was MEAT.
Peter was then told by The Lord to KILL and EAT these creatures, to which Peter responded, “Not so, Lord; for I have never eaten anything that is common and unclean”. The response came, “What God hath cleansed, call not thou UNCLEAN.”
Of course the vision was about Peter letting go of his prejudice toward the gentiles, but there is also a scripture that says ”
But the word of God states plainly in ITimothy4:1-5
Verse 1/ “Now the spirit speaketh expressly, that in latter times, some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
Verse 2/ “speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
Verse 3/ “forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which GOD HATH CREATED TO BE RECEIVED with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Verse 4/ “For every creature of God is GOOD, and NOTHING TO BE REFUSED, if it be received with thanksgiving.
Verse 5/ “For it(Meat) is SANCTIFIED by the word of God and prayer.”
There you have it in a nutshell. God DOES NOT call for Christians to be vegans. This scripture plainly states that Christian vegans have been bewitched by seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. Veganism is not of God by any means.
“How long will the land mourn, and the grass of every field wither? For the wickedness of those who live in it the animals and the birds are swept away, and because people said, ‘He is blind to our ways.’” —Jeremiah 12:4
“The righteous know the needs of their animals, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” —
Proverbs 12:10
Daniel 1:11-16
Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over him: “Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.” So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days. At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. So the guard took away their meat and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy.” —Matthew 5:7
“How long will the land mourn, and the grass of every field wither? For the wickedness of those who live in it the animals and the birds are swept away, and because people said, ‘He is blind to our ways.’” —Jeremiah 12:4
Scholars looked at the etymology of the word “meat” used in biblical times and concluded that it just meant “food”. Likewise, “fish” may have meant “fishweed” (seaweed).
What I learned from “Vegucated” (please watch it) is that God may have allowed humans to eat animals after the “Fall”. This lines up with an archaelogical theory that says we may have started eating animals only after a major catastrophe (like a flood). It’s time that we return to a more natural way and stop eating animals now that there is no desperate need to eat them.
And even if God said humans could eat animals (out of dire need), the intention was likely to only take the ones who were near death:
“Everything that lives and moves about will be food for you. Just as I gave you the green plants, I now give you everything. But you must not eat meat that has its lifeblood still in it.”
Genesis 9:3-4 (NIV)
Easter, Christmas, Thanksgiving feasts – all orgies of death:
Isaiah 1:11-16
“The multitude of your sacrifices– what are they to me?” says the LORD. “I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you, this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations– I cannot bear your evil assemblies. Your New Moon festivals and your appointed feasts my soul hates. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them. When you spread out your hands in prayer, I will hide my eyes from you; even if you offer many prayers, I will not listen. Your hands are full of blood; wash and make yourselves clean. Take your evil deeds out of my sight! Stop doing wrong!”
“The righteous know the needs of their animals, but the mercy of the wicked is cruel.” —
Proverbs 12:10
Daniel 1:11-16
Daniel then said to the guard whom the chief official had appointed over him: “Please test your servants for ten days: Give us nothing but vegetables to eat and water to drink. Then compare our appearance with that of the young men who eat the royal food, and treat your servants in accordance with what you see.” So he agreed to this and tested them for ten days. At the end of the ten days they looked healthier and better nourished than any of the young men who ate the royal food. So the guard took away their meat and the wine they were to drink and gave them vegetables instead.
Isaiah 65:25
“The wolf and the lamb will feed together, and the lion will eat straw like the ox, but dust will be the serpent’s food. They will neither hunt nor destroy on all my holy mountain,” says the LORD.
“Blessed are the merciful, for they will receive mercy.” —Matthew 5:7
P.S. I don’t believe in the bible. I believe it was a book written by ordinary misogynistic homophobic men in an effort to control others. Quite successful too. It’s something people use because they have lost the ability to think for themselves and to know in their own hearts what is right. I just wanted to illustrate that bible quotes can be cherry-picked and used for any argument.
well,,thank you,,that was great,,,i copied some of it,,,i too,don,t believe in god,but like you said,,these passages can be used and viewed for both sides,,oh,,i am vegan,,,,and would never eat meat again,
You do not have to eat animal products if you do not wish to but you have to remember that you are missing some important nutrients and get them from somewhere. The facts that we know right now is that no past culture was vegan and just being vegetarian is not indicative of how healthful you are eating.
What is indicative of a healthy vegetarian diet is having daily calories over 85% of whole plant-based foods, less than 10% animal products and some healthy fats like nuts, seeds and avocado with additional supplements for the important nutrients like B12, zinc and iodine, if you do not consume much salt or seaweed.
Thank you June…..well said and I agree the Lord God.
Very interesting article.A vegetarian diet is the optimal way to meet your nutritional needs. The key to a healthy vegetarian diet or vegan diet is variety – which includes fruits, vegetables, whole grains and legumes….….I’m hoping we’ll be able to see results soon.
I guess the lack of B12 has prevented you from comprehending the content of the article.
Grains are unhealthy. Rice occasionally should be fine though
Nonsense. Whole grains are extremely healthful and have been the basis of traditional diets for millennia. Read the excellent book “Blue Zones,” which covers the lifestyles of the longest-lived, healthiest communities on earth. The diets of all those communities are based on grains, beans, and vegetables. The trouble is with highly processed food products. Grains should be eaten in their traditional forms.
http://wellnessmama.com/575/how-grains-are-killing-you-slowly/
Presumably the author will follow this article with one about the dangers of eating meat. Forget those stern warnings about rare problems facing vegetarians and vegans who don’t eat well. Let’s hear more about the long line of common illnesses that affect meat-eaters instead – heart disease, cancer, gall bladder disease, kidney stones, diabetes, and so on.
Meanwhile, I don’t have to take statins. Thank you Vegan Diet!
The author mentioned the “Health Food Shoppers” study where there was no difference in longevity seen between health-conscious veg*ns and omnivores.
Don’t bother….the lack of B12 is preventing the vegans from comprehending the content of this good article. It’s a shame really!
Couldn’t agree more
thats what i am talking about,i could hardly read the article,,,i am happy being vegan,,and i am just begining to educate myself,,,never going back,,
I think it is unfortunate that people put fear into others for challenging the norm of eating meat daily or frequently and adopting a plant-based diet to reduce risk of vascular disease, diabetes, cancer etc…
This is what I’ve learned sinced going plant-based:
If you want to go plant-based…
1) Drastically reduce omega-6 sources of food and include
daily flax and modest amounts of walnuts in your diet to increase your EPA/DHA levels. Consider DHA supp. for insurance-no mega doses needed. If you are not opposed to eating animals have a few sardines or salmon on top of a yummy salad, but do not feel you have to eat any mammal meats to get the protein you need. Every plant you eat (even the highest carb fruits) contain protein.
2) Include traditional vegetarian foods: seaweed, miso, mushrooms, lentils, quinoa, black rice, brown rice etc..
3) The phytates in legumes are removed when soaked, rinsed and cooked thoroughly. Also, consider fermented legumes such as miso and tempeh. Prepare and cook them as has been done for centuries. Lentils have been around for millennia!
4) 95% of patients treated for B-12 deficiency are frequent meat, egg and dairy omnivores. Elderly with PPI use are at very high risk. They have absorption problems and are not treated with increased meat intake.
5) Most iron deficiencies occur in omnivores-not more likely in plant-based eaters or vegetarians, and it is due to excessive bleeding either with mentruation, polyps, fibroids etc… Eat daily greens with a little lemon juice for best iron absorption.
6) Just because a nutrient is lower in a particular dietary pattern does not equate to deficiency (testosterone, carnosine…). Omnivores also have much higher IGF levels, but we certainly do not want to raise these levels in anyone.
7) Look at cuisine of cultures thriving on plant-based diets and emulate them: Okinawans, Ikarians, Nicoyans, Loma Linda Adventists etc…
I have been vegetarian a year and vegan five months before that I was
I recently gave up meat after 15 years of struggling with digestive problems. I went to see a dietitian and took a whole lot of blood tests. The outcome was that I am lactose and glucose intolerant. My blood type A+. I always cooked healthy and every once in a while we would treat ourselfs with some take aways or junk food… I never enjoyed the after effect.
Now 4 weeks down the line eating “Clean” I must say that I feel like a whole new person. I have more energy and my joints aren’t aching. I am no longer bloated and I have lost about 5 kg. It is not easy to make such a change after 32years of being an omnivore and we as south Africans loves our “braai’s”. I ate a chop the other night and instantly I felt heavy in the stomach and the sore joints were back in the morning. I chose to try a vegetarian diet to improve my health and accommodate my lifestyle. I still prepare meat for my partner but he is also happy to veg out with me. I take my hat off to all vegetarians as I believe your minds are creative and clean. I will continue being a vegetarian and feeling awesome and even a few pounds lighter. As for deficiencies nothing a few supplements can solve.
Something that I find so sad in above comments are that even though it is personal choice to be who and what you are…… neither parties respect each other. Its choice and if it works for you let it be and learn from each other rather then criticize one another. Thanks for all the great tips and links and information all comes in very handy.
what do you say about this paper that shows you should’t worry about your dha:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24898234
You have to allow your body to adapt to a vegan, natural way of eating after tens of years of meat polluting ourselves.
How exactly is meat polluting our body? If you’re asking people to let their body adapt to the vegan lifestyle, then why not let yourself adapt to the omnivorous lifestyle?
Forget your arguments about factory farming and the like, the real problem is that there are too many people in the world.
And you would solve this problem how??? Since we can’t magically depopulate the world, those of us who are able to need to step up and reduce our impact on it.
The best start is to stop eating and wearing cows and cow products. After the US military, cows are the single largest source of greenhouse gasses in the world. If you account for deforestation for pasture land they may be the largest. Grass fed cows are worse that grain fed for pollution.
I’m with you. Michael. Haven’t eaten meat of any kind in a quarter century. I also haven’t bought any products derived from cows (or other animals, to the best of my knowledge) in a decade. Unfortunately, a lot of people have a blind spot on this topic due to cognitive dissonance, or maybe some just “want what they want” and don’t care about the consequences.
The us military is the largest producer of greenhouse gases? I find that kind of hard to believe. More than cars, factories, etc? Also getting rid of the us military would be the worst idea ever…then you may not have the luxury of choosing to be vegan omnivore etc. You may be in wartorn streets scrounging for whatever food you can get your hands on because we were invaded by North Korea.
Without the US military stomping its jackboot all over the world, the US would be invaded by… North Korea?
The fear is Strong in this one.
If you put the whole population of the world shoulder to shoulder in a crowd. We would all fit in the city of Los angeles.
What kind of life would you have, standing shoulder-to-shoulder with people crammed into LA? The problem with the world’s population is that it is exceeding the carrying capacity of the planet. It’s not a matter of the physical space you take up. It takes a lot more space than your shoulder-to-shoulder distance between you and your neighbor to detoxify the earth’s systems and make the functions supporting humans sustainable.
Waffle, waffle and more waffle.
China has purchased America’s largest pork “producer” Smithfield Hams. If you’d ever seen the picture of pigs jogged for miles in the back of open trucks with huge hooks holding them in place impaled through their lower palate and jaw you’d feel nauseous at the thought of bacon. That’s if you can feel their pain. If not, online papers are reporting today that the 80% of antibiotics produced by big pharma and fed to “livestock” are creating antibiotic resistant bacteria that now travel through the air. So those who demand bacon and their pleasures, despite the cost to the animals and poor suckers who are forced to make a living slaughtering them, will probably live to die of it.
K_______M – no one who is concerned about the specism involved in the raising of animals for slaughter should be “embarrassed”. They are simply more conscious, period. There is no other way to look at it. Further, all this concern for the nutritional deficiencies of vegans is touching but misapplied. Nutrition is a young science, there’s not all that much food science out there, we’re all being poisoned anyway, and animal products, although bad for the soul and the environment, are not the determining factor. The difference between vegans and non-vegans is more simply an ability to see beyond their own needs and desires.